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  1. No you really don’t need the cover like Dimitar said, it’s some pretty good epoxy. But it seemed some wanted it so he did it. That loctite marine epoxy is tuff as nails and it gives you visible wear point … ya just dab more on. Spreads like peanut so easy to work with. I can scrub the heck out of a coil…. But obviously the fewer hours the less wear. I do like the cover…. Not as fragile as the standard which fits very tight so you have to be careful trying to remove it. Thus far I’ve not noticed a lot of sand getting in causing falsing. It of course adds nose weight. For the price under $20 thou for what you get it’s a real great deal…. solid piece of work.
  2. True … it’s getting competitive especially when you are talking multi use. Obviously the Deus is the most talked about with a better warranty yet still over priced. Either that or we just got spoiled with the cost of the Nox. But even the Nox price has edged up a couple hundred just like the Xcal did. I think their leaking issue hasn’t helped. I’m not willing to throw money at the Deus YET. They are still playing with the software AND it’s just not been in the water much. I believe it’s vital that the MDT be waterproof or there again the Deus is attractive.
  3. Good suggestions. I’m wondering if there were more digits it might pull some of the wrap around iron back where it belongs. That notch covers several digits as well. We heard what the tones could be and I’d have to say it would make a world of difference
  4. I wore one of the standards out from scrubbing the sand the way I do. Got another, and did what I always do….. added a coat of loctite marine epoxy to the edges and bottom. I can watch wear that away and do touch up. I used to put in crazy hours out there and would go thru a cover every 6 months or less …. 3 Nox ones. Not hunting as much has helped too.
  5. I was hunting with Cliff the other day tagging some targets. He’s the guy to convince me. I’m good in the water with the MDT. Out there it’s simplicity, depth and just knowing it’s a non-ferr target. I do my own thing out there and don’t get concerned about others or their machine. I don’t care who gets it ….. I just want to see it 😂
  6. I think those things that suit you may have been addressed…. and hopefully considered by Dimitar…. for his next machine. I’ll be watching the Deus thru the Summer as people get it in the water more. I remember we didn’t note many Nox issues it seems for nearly a year
  7. Dimitar now has the 12” coil cover for sale. I know several people had asked for it. Here is mine. I tried to show it so you could see the thickness….. it appears to be about twice the thickness of the standard coil cover. Fits very well. Yes to those who want to ask if it’s heavier. Obviously twice the thickness will equal a bit more weight …BUT adds tons of protection. Price I believe is $15 or $20.
  8. Charles that IMO was a guess. I’m betting if you re-bury them individually you won’t get that kind of depth. Lot of variables go into exact depth. We tested a 5 gram at 14”…. Dues got it with a couple of inches above that. Thou even those inches won’t necessarily equal that same distance on a found target. That small could have been 10” …. But lost to the TID.
  9. To me it’s gain. Reduce it and you filter out weak targets. It seems to affect modulation much like gain does on an explorer. I believe most think we just have two sensitivities.
  10. I hunt in all metal so I don’t notice the tones except when I switch to disc. But by then my phones modulate them well and I’ve already sized the target. I can tell you he’s reading all these suggestions.
  11. I’ll mention this again. There is a 12” coil cover now for those that really like them. $15 or $20 I don’t remember. But Dimitar says the type of epoxy used you really don’t need it. It’s a bit more durable than even the standard coil cover. I’m still uncertain as to what it’s water rating is. If it’s not currently considered for warranty purposes as water proof that a must have for beach hunters.
  12. Cliff… interesting thought to have AM give two tones. That would certainly eliminate the need to flip back and forth from AM to Disc. It would be a killer if it had 5 tones. But… is that to many tones with just 30 non-ferr digits? To me in the water having really deep target like aluminum upscale doesn’t affect my gold range. However there is a learning curve since some targets wrap around (iron) and upscale…. so working on that would help.
  13. I was talking to Dimitar this morning. Hes looking for input we'd like to see for the NEXT MDT. The current MDT is what it is. So hes not doing any special mods. But he is wanting to get ideas. Couple of mine 1. Change the tone to a more standard tone. Huge difference in the water because they would be a bit better separated and longer. 2. reduce the size of the lower and middle shaft ... more a standard size. Much like SteveG did. 3. Add a bit of rubber under the cuff because in the water it shifts from the torque. 4. Allow a bit more time when doing adjustment before it switches back. 5. I dont use the PP switch, but would like to have an easier way to toggle from AM to Disc when reverse disc. and have that button a bit larger. 6. Move the direction of the headphone connector so the cable goes over the shaft. 7. change the angel of the handle, my hand tends to slip up and pushes on the box. 8. See if we can get the 12khz to work in the water or a multi freq. Feel free to add yours and they will be passed on. Im hoping some of these will be added to the NEXT machine.
  14. That’s the issue….. depth especially in the water is such a guess. Even one scoop we may think wow 11” on that ring…. while it could just as easily been 4”. Sometimes we get a hint by volume of the target…. but even they you have to ensure your target is centered on the coil. Cliff mentioned once to me he was surprised when snorkeling how many targets could be on the outside of the coil when fanned. I also never assume I’m getting the same depth in the water as the wet sand. It takes a bit of an effort… and a mask to get out there and test depth… especially when comparing two machines. The MDT IMO is one of the best water machines I’ve used. I’ll have to get more time with Cliff as he tweaks his new toy
  15. You know, I’ll have to say I didn’t check for TID. So tone. It would be iffy at best until you took off some sand. But that’s how we both hunt…..FIND a target.. a really deep target take a scoop if needed to get a better read. It may waste a little time but we do it pretty quickly. Thomas impressive on the chain. Those things really excite you especially hanging off a scoop. We all know there is acceptable loss with any machine….. takes awhile to have some idea just what you might miss. Cliff I’m bringing more fishing line and hook next time 😂
  16. Let me start this off... Cliff if i miss speak please correct me. I have to say i was impressed with the Deus on wet sand. It got a bit more depth on some of the gold rings we tested. These werent methodical tests.... drop a ring in a 14" hole and see what happens. Cliff is also in the learning process..... but it helps hes a VERY good hunter and no matter the machine he knows a weak target others might miss. Build wise.... he bought the new upper shaft which is longer and stablized the lower from flexing in the water. So the shaft seems pretty good even for water hunting. He put the antenna cable inside the shaft..... nice. He was using Tony Eisenhower phones.... which he had to turn down the volume on. I did NOT swing the machine thou he offered. I was more interested in seeing how it did.... ill save using it for another day.... when hes got it really dialed in lol. Is still like to see those coil ears moved more toward the center of the coil to reduce coil flip, ear wear, balance, and breakage from leaning on it. The way the shaft is made it appears more contact can be made by the locks. Clearly the Deus will get equal to of a bit better depth on the wet sand than the MDT.... thats saying something since the Nox fell a little short. Thou again hes still in the learning phase and we were basicly air testing by dropping targets in a hole. Some machines dont do well using this method. The Deus CAN noise cancel out the MDT and didnt appear to create silent EMI like the Nox did reducing depth. So we really never had to move the machines very far away when checking targets. Right off the bat i hit a couple of targets he didnt find..... turned out to be deep can slaw. He adjusted his disc setting and that fixed that. We hit one target fairly deep with a mixed signal which we both thought maybe bottle cap.... turned out to be a silver toe ring with a large piece of iron under it. Targets were really just not there either. I intentionally brought 3 targets, small chain, tiny cross, and hollow gold earring. These were found with the Nox using the 40khz gold program in a volleyball course. As expected the Deus nor the MDT hit those setting on top of that wet sand. My impression is the Deus is a very capable machine and quieter than the Nox in the water. Build is a better than i expected thou time will tell. Based on some of the comments thou they still need to make some updates. With any multi use machine thou you really need to test a lot ..... water, wet ... then dry sand and make those tweaks. If you dont.... the the term "you dont know what you dont know" applies. You just wont know if you have it dialed in.... and right now everyone is in a learning curve or should be. A skilled hunter as we say can find gold with a stick..... so considering ive done my testing, have time on my machine, and have it dialed the way i like it. The Deus impressed.... and id say can do even better. AND no ive still not got one on order....lol. I like the MDTs simplicity. Make no mistake ..... buying a great machine doesnt make you great.... ya have to put in the time. As i say.... never sell a new machine until you have payed for it in finds... by then you have a pretty good idea if it suits you. the warranty duration is considerably longer than the MDT. However…. The way it’s written to me is some concern. as a water hunter. No good having if for some reason it floods and they opt not to replace it. Hopefully they will be as responsive as ML. Seems pretty water tight thou so hopefully it will never be an issue.
  17. Ha ha ha…. I’m still on the sidelines for the Deus. Hunting tomorrow with a friend and hopefully do a little testing with it. Plus get my hands on it for a bit. We will be checking some targets. Not quite been enough reliable info on how it’s doing in the water yet…. Everyone seems to be getting and refining their settings. I don’t see it as the perfect water machine based on how it’s made …. but seems to be gaining popularity for beach hunting. By summer we should have a better handle on the overall machine and it’s performance. I’m guessing you might not want it as a backup machine because of price and staying on top of the learning curve. I like new machines but I’m not certain it will out perform the MDT in the water and the MDT I’ve learned and find it simple like the Xcal.
  18. Thank you. You making any plans for a Summer trip to the beach? Waters 77 in the Gulf.
  19. Thanks Steve. I alway use a piece of dental floss when using the magnet…. and it a GOOD magnet… it will rip your pants off near a car 😂. You are right you get a slight nudge or twist toward it. Can’t say I’ve gotten any SS that didn’t do that. Also I’ve not seen that high grade SS turn color like this either. I’m ok with there not being many MDTs on my beaches.
  20. I offered to help find a ring …. which I didn’t find. But you get that when people THINK they know where they lost it. It was dry sand so I moved on out in the water. I picked up some tiny targets… high conductors just to show even in the salt water the machine does well. The one chunkier is 10.5 grams the other who’s stones are junk is 2 grams both 14k. The odd piece is the one with 24 on it. It has a CB on the back and both test strong for 14k. I use an earth magnet to test for SS…. NADA so I’m not certain what it is….. oh well. 6 hours in the water …. Pure fun. By the way those tiny targets take effort when ya have a scoop with 1/2 holes. Again a learned skill.
  21. Cliff…. Let me know when. I’ll come and do some shadow hunting with you. We need a day we aren’t fighting those waves to see how it handles torque
  22. Thomas… you got you a new toy I see 😂. Where’s the penny…. Midrange bottle cap, tiny foil, and nickel fall? By summer I’ll see more posts around here of the machine in the water…. and just what they find. I don’t pay a lot of attention to depth …. Rarely is anyone out there with a tape measure and PPer. But … you definitely get a feel for how it’s doing and the proof is always in the pouch. Most targets tested are found targets…. I keep a couple around that are extremely difficult to hit or not at all for testing. Cliff …. This dang weather give us a break I’ll come up and follow you around the beach…. Maybe drop a ring in a hole or a gold chain near the water buddy.
  23. We will see as time goes on how well these multi use machines work and how durable they are for beach hunting….. AND if they can get anywhere close to the depth the MDT can IN the salt water. Like I said I’m down to just the MDT now….. looking for a backup but not willing to pull the trigger on a second yet. I guess I still believe in a single use machine. As far as Keith….. it was a shame he’s left the forums. The latest and greatest always gets the press while people sort it out and make choices. Videos are a must now days.
  24. Its fairly simple to order a M8 adaptor which can be added to most water phones. I do use Tonys phone.... but i have a pair with speakers as well. I like the modulation Tonys gives but some like all targets to sound about the same and louder.... which speakers do. Modulation thou gives me better sizing ability. Brian from Jersey Shores FB page recently mentioned Thresher headphones for the Nox.... could be modified as well
  25. That tone change is night and day. We suggested when running AM it be a two tone, but was told there werent going to be any changes to the tones. Ive sold all my machines but the MDT..... BUT ive not bought a second one even thou i like the machine until i see what might be next..... definently some improvements could be made. I suspect the cost of a start up is HIGH so only so much can be done on accessories or mods. Just glad you are healthy.... and glad the videos are out there again.
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