dewcon4414

There are bottle caps that read iron period..... then there are those that like on the Nox hit right there in the gold range..... AND others in the upper range like corona or WRAP AROUND on some machines.  So i wonder which is being disc and how it will read those deep ones EVERYONE digs?  Im not a fan of disc for non-ferr..... id rater learn what the machine is telling me over time.  As a gold hunter...... a miss can cost you a really nice yellow sparkler.  

I seen a short dive video too..... but it was fresh water not the same.   Soooo when one of you guys in Fl Gulf gets one let me know.  Id like to see it work and bring a few gold items and see if it does the same to my gold chains.   Im from MO when it comes to a VLF hitting a gold chain at 12" in salt water.

I just watched the beach video Tenn posted.  Wet sand hunting but I was impressed.  I’ve ran the Nox and that seemed a fair out of the box test at waters edge on that gold ring…. Maybe 11”.   But the Deus was killing it and the chain.  I’d liked to have seen the swing with the gran to rule out black sand.  AND that was in dive mode which I assume which I assume is tuned down.   That’s a lot of antenna wire.  Hope that clip holding it on is well made with a good SS spring that won’t rust.   I’m hoping someone who hunts the gulf gets their hands on one since we can get in the water year round for testing.  You can get a good bit of air over a chain that can be picked up by your machine with it on the sand…. But it doesn’t take much sand over it and thing change.   Anyone know if it has true AM?

12 hours ago, midalake said:

Hi Luis. Please keep posting any saltwater examples. Coins? WHO CARES!! Why was this not a gold test? 

I some what agree that there should be more videos of beach testing.  I’m assuming that’s the reason for the higher price tag?   Deus has proven to be a very good dirt machine but now they want to jump in the water.   Then they need to show more on how it handles salt water and gold out there not just the wet sand.  Equaling the Nox in the wet won’t sell more machines at the current price tag.   We need to know just how much sensitivity and depth is lost with reduced settings.  We know the Nox uses beach 2, less recover and sensitivity can be run…. all of which changed the sensitivity and depth on gold.  We are also curious as to how the phones sound and how that antenna works and just how its attached?  So what happens as the battery drains feeding that antenna?

5 hours ago, palzynski said:

Look at  the video at 19:05 , magus says that he did a depth test with a Deus2 on a coin at 30cm ( 12inches )  in salt water saturated sand and the Deus2 hits the coin . From my own bed tests the Equinox has similar depth results ( 30i on a coin  ) 

I agree on that Nox depth…. However things change once in the water.  You loose 2” and sensitive just because of the settings required.  In the wash some targets will disappear on you or like a nickel at 10” turn to iron.  So at what point will this machine have to be run in dive mod?  I assume someone will run that antenna thru the  shaft as well

Im kind of with you on the wait and see for it’s use in the salt water.  Not certain how that antenna will work.  It appears to clip on the box .. and the piece that holds the box to the shaft…. Will it hold up to the real wear and tear of serious water hunters in waves, long shore current, and taking it all apart?   It obviously is worth watching.  Does it have a salt balance like the MDT to adjust for minerals at various depth?  I’ve never owned a Deus so I want to hear more from guys who get it wet.  The warranty says …. Trust me it’s been tested well.

I’m aware of what 750 is.   I’ve got some nice 22k as well.  Marked out of country because you rarely see any jewelry made here that’s not marked using the K.  

11 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

Looks like an interlocking ring to me, don't know if it would be too comfortable without the other piece.

Nice find!

Apparently they make this one as is and others one side white gold the other yellow.  Those would not come apart.

I found this one to be an odd ring.  It appeared at first to me to be one of those wave rings.  But I’m lucky I can see up close pretty well.  First guess also….. SS.  It’s marked 750 Denmark and tested 18K.  Weight was 5.6 grams.   I’m hoping there wasn’t a second part to it … but clearly there could be.  I’m also hoping the other one wasn’t the one with a 3 C diamond 😂.    Deep ring with a lot of pushed in sand over it.  Waist deep.  So it looks like some sand is moving.  My buddy Joe grabbed a nice delicate 14k ID bracelet he didn’t think was real.   2 people in and out of the water.  I could get out fairly deep….. but from waist out to neck …. No heavies.

Chase…. Yes I was talking wher the majority of the gold rings hit.  When I said notch ….can pass most iron.  Then in the upper numbers say above 13 I Pass on those.  On the days I’m doing this pattern I watching for pretty solid targets from 1 to 10.  I will likely do it more during recent drop times trying to cover as much water as possible.  In the winter I slow way down concentrating more on deep targets.   
Where does foil hit I’d say 2 to 4.  Deep foil like pull tabs if they are real deep can upscale into the 23 or little higher …oddly above a quarter… but during your slow checking that target may pop a 6 or 7 …. Pull tab just like deep iron which can wrap around to 27ish BUT will show you some neg 26s in there.   I can normally get pretty accurate neck deep where I can’t see the screen …. Just by high vs low tones as well on iron.  

I did some testing when i first started out as you can see.   This tight gold notch has some advantage .... targets like DEEP pull tabs/aluminum and iron that wraps around jump to around 27.  A quarter comes in around 20ish.   So if you want to pass coins and pattern hunt in the gold range occasionally its pretty easy to do.  Ive been using it a good while now beach hunting and have to say ive not found a gold ring that read iron.  YOu do get jitter screen..... not so much when the coil is underwater OR passing over a target.  This crude sheet shows 106 gold rings i was using 9khz.

8 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

I do too, and good thing you did 🙂 that head is interesting. It's a 1900s Shiva head from India I think, and that little girl pendant is worth about $350, there's one for sale on eBay right now.

Weirdest thing I've dug at the beach was a small jeweler's anvil that someone threw in the surf in Savannah. 

Thanks for that info.   That iron piece must weigh 2 ounces.  Ya never know….. I had one day I dug 5 knives.

 

Bizarre but very cool finds. Almost seems like detectorists found them before but were unnerved by them and threw them back 😀 just kidding, but here we are. I second your shout to SteveG.

Are the ring and watchband silver? I'm thinking tungsten on the ring. Cool patina on the buffalo too!

Yes TU on the ring.  Brass on the bracelet.   Most nickels that been out there on this beach are pretty black.  It turns them and silver a gold color at first.  Wished they would throw a few more my way.    As you can tell I like to check some of the deep iron … but I’ve yet to have one turn into a gold ring.  

The guys really cleaned the beach this Summer so it a matter of slow hunting for moved targets.  This is photos of my last two hunts.   I’ve not hunted a lot … been picking and choosing my days waiting on the winds to change.  Couple of smalls….. angle is 8.8 grams of 10k and the crazy looking girl is 2.8 grams of 14k.   Waters filling down it’s about 70 so there have been fewer people in the water.  Getting some good low tides.  Thou there are advantages to hunting high tides.   Puts you in places you wouldn’t hunt and it seems salt water activates the target better.  This time of the year thou beach rotation should be considered… you have to find those target concentrations that been push or pulled all winter and buried.  Big shoutout to SteveG on his shaft.  I really like it.  I’ve gotten NO movement at those locks or wear.  I’v been surprised that I’ve not had to change the coil rubbers yet the coil has stayed tight.  Thumbs up Steve.  Note that Buffalo nickel.  Someone has been dropping them along the beach.  They are not common and have not been there long.  I’m wondering if maybe it was someone wish along with their ashes.  We get a lot of that here.

So this is the Production model Joe?   I saw Thomas posted about Eric doing several coils for him.  

Nice find.  Aaron when you going to take a trip to England with one of the groups to get some goodies?  Seems more are group hunting there now.

12 hours ago, tvr said:

Agree! I thought I'd be OK with two of the stock batteries until I was consistently running out of both. I thought five hours would be enough, until I actually ran one of Joe's big batteries out from a full charge. Completely lost track of time; wife was ready to call in a search party and I was sore as heck from the digging the old body did. Love the AQ LTD but it does need a lot of battery to keep it going. Joe has made it very usable where it was not entirely what was needed as it came from the factory.

Again something I questioned from the beginning.  I was hunting sometimes 10 hours and the answer buy and carry another battery made no sense.  Joe did it shortly after getting his.  I chalked it up to …. This wasn’t the production model.

On 10/21/2021 at 9:27 PM, tvr said:

 

I like that old gold!

The AQ is really quiet in the bay and tributaries. Settings that I can run in the ocean waters are not near as hot as in the bay.

I like that black coil! Now wouldn't it be nice if First Texas made one that size? Around 10 inches or so.

I said that from the start as a beach hunter.  Many PIs had an 8” coil.  I talked to Bill Crabtree several years back his preferred coil size was 9 or 10”.   Having swung the Xcal I just like that side.

Great finds Joe.  You have that Yoda thing going with this machine just like the Xcal buddy.  What coils working best for you?   

He’s great with repairs.  He genuinely wants you to have a great experience with this machine.  Mines been in salt water now nearly 3 years I bet I’ve not used the PP button but a couple of times.  

A lot may depend on how deep you think good targets are too.  I’ve found lower freqs tend to pick up a bit more EMI but get you the better depth.  I’ve hunted in areas like that, not with this machine, but way to many times hunters run to much power.  Back it off and hunt the area several times one day maybe better.

19 hours ago, Slimpickuns said:

Thanks Dewcon4414! Yea I think I might of gotten off easy as far as problems go with the AQ, When I first got mine about a year ago, the threshold nob wasn't working, I sent it back to Fisher and they replaced the threshold pot, took about a month before I got it back. Thankfully it has been working great ever since though..

Which coil are you using?   So what do you think of the depth compared to other machines you have used?   Would they have found this really nags?

I have to agree about the tones, id like to have had those Nox tones on this machine.   The ping pongs are good for me coming out of AM to check a target.   We like it pretty simple in the water.  Expanding the digital range beyond 30 for dirt hunters might be an advantage as well .... but then he have to work on having more than one notch lol.   Its definitely a deep machine especially for harsh conditions.

The last thing i heard with the battery box upgrade Dimitar will waterproof it..... but i believe you have to ask for it.   I believe hes also offering it with either coil..... and you can get SteveGs lower shaft as an option which ive really liked.  Aaron seems to be the guys in the know to answer your question.

Great average..... and that one ring is a killer you been crushing it.   Got a couple of guys with AQ issues constantly.   I know Fisher said they are making improvements but it doesnt seem reflected by the repairs in the limited..... and the down time not so good.   Id like to have one of the production models..... but id have to see if these issues are resolved and repair times improved.

On 10/8/2021 at 7:37 AM, cdv said:

I just have to ask, did you tell yourself while picking up that TV stand that this wasn't going to end well .....and then it didn't? Just about every time something bad happens to me, it is right after saying it in my head.... Can't be to bad IF you managed to walk out on the dry sand to the water....Congrats on the gold. Hope you heel  (foot joke) quickly.....

Lets get back together for a hunt when you can...

Cliff

Cliff …. Yes it was heavy… I’m short so getting it in was a strain.  Hindsight I should have taken the shelf out.  What added to it …. I had to clean up the shattered glass right away.  Wisdom is gained from our mistakes I guess.   Off to Indy the 18th for a week with my parents 90s now.   But absolutely…. You need to put me on some gold 😂. Last couple of times I’ve been your good luck charm.