Noah (FL)

This is an all too common topic accross all forums not relating to any specific brand.  First time poster that made unprecedented number of silver finds with a beginner model moves to a more in-depth settings model and can’t quite mesh with the machine.  Either the poster figured out how to jive with the machine or it hits the back of the closet until it turns up on eBay in 10 years when they move and have a garage sale.   LOL

The ship is the only one I’ve found.  

A friend of mine has a couple of pieces from”Clue”.  The knife and candlestick. 

You can look on eBay and check sold prices 

Once you search for vaquero just look in the filters and check sold/completed.  It will list items sold in the last 3-6 months I believe.  

Not to be negative but in all honesty, the coil and metal detector itself generates a far more substantial electromagnetic  field than the Bluetooth transmission.   If you are seriously concerned about electromagnetic fields affecting your health I would recommend a different hobby.  

So many variables in tones and general operation from brand to brand that it really comes down to what you “click” with.  

I purchased a 4pk of EBL “9volts” with a charger about 2 years ago to use in my Tesoros and Garrett PP.   They still provide enough power for a couple days of detecting when fully charged.  I’ll have to double check on the maH rating as I’m currently away from home.  

VDI for gold, platinum and even silver varies by size, shape and alloy.  They can read anywhere between iron and silver coins.  

Its definitely worth investing in an inexpensive acid test kit.  Makes it super easy to verify precious metal alloys.  Just be sure to find a place on the item to “scratch” deeply as quality plated items have a thick plating and can test positive if you don’t reach the base metal.  

Either way its a nice ring!!  

On 1/20/2018 at 11:28 PM, Buzzard said:

I tried the GM in some tot lots and it hit on every little bitty piece of foil there.....way to sensitive in my opinion.

Unfortunately if you want to find little bits and pieces of gold jewelry (broken chains,charms and earrings) in dirt and woodchips you’re gonna have to dig all that tiny foil too.  That’s the unfortunate paradox of urban prospecting!!!

In the water it’s a different story as the “motion of the ocean” helps to stratify the targets and generally washes off the lighter foil. 

I was gonna add the Multi Kruzer too Steve, but if the OP is predisposed to disliking the Turkish machines then it won’t help.  19kHz is slamming on little gold jewelry in the fresh water that I hunt!!!

I have had deep low-mid conductive targets read high on just about every machine I’ve used over the years. Not regularly but every now and then. Not sure what causes it?????

8 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

And I see signs of just the opposite. John in Edmonton NEVER speaks of anything but Garrett. Ever. His blood runs green. So what to make of this post he made recently.

”But......are there more coming from other manufacturers?”

Looks like a heads up to me from a guy who knows something but can’t say. I’ve done that in the past for people with eyes to see. Another interpretation of the videos is they are pushing the ATX to clear inventory ahead of a release. It just depends how you want to spin it. I sure am not going to hold my breath though. Been doing that for years and I just don't have the lung capacity anymore! 

I can’t say much for Garrett’s VLFs but the ATX is a decent multichannel PI and Brent Weaver is a brilliant engineer. I would not count them out.

That definitely is interesting!!!! 

ATX is an excellent machine having used a friends a few times water hunting but like you I have no desire to tote around 5+ lb machines.  

All about the technology bringing us ultra light tools!!!!

11 hours ago, SLGuin said:

Steve,

What if Garrett and Minelab were spurred to the action you note?

 

Garrett’s response to these new machine rumors appears to have been sending the “HooverBoys” a few ATXs.  They have been releasing youTube vids the last 2-3 weeks with nothing but ATX relic hunting.  If they are pushing those machines it’s doubtful anything new is in the pipeline 

Used a 12x10 dd on my mojave for a while.  It was great for field hunting but was a little out of balance for a uMax housing.  Probably not as bad on a tejon with the batteries out back.  

If the site has lots of iron you will be better off with the concentric IMO.  The dd coils don’t seem to reject iron as well as concentrics with the Tesoro circuit. 

Also in regards to the lower rod.  I won’t be home until April but I should have an extra lower  rod to part with.  I’ll send you a message when I can confirm.  

46 minutes ago, Nuke em said:

If your in the UK . If i remember right a local dealer to me has the Compadre in stock , i'm sure they have a few still . 

If your here call Detecnicks  tel .  01243 545060  or look up their site. You need the UK number too .

I already have all the Tesoros I need, hopefully they will keep finding me jewelry as long as I can keep digging!!!  I just happened to be looking for a certain coil and noticed that the Compadres seemed to be out of stock on the dealers websites that I usually deal with. I live in the US but am currently traveling in OZ, NZ and Japan for work.  That’s why I wasn’t sure about Tesoros website not loading, sometimes US sites don’t load properly from foreign servers.  But alas, it appears to be down and inventory appears to be quickly running out.  

Ive said it before but I am so glad that I learned detecting with a Tesoro.  I can confidently take a Mojave or Compadre into a playground after watching someone hunt  it with another machine and know there will still be targets that were too close to the posts for them to find with anything else. Just a shame that Tesoro never found a proper way to market their machines and educate the users.  

I was poking around online and it seems that nobody actually has a new compadre for sale???  Have looked on every dealers website I coukd find and not a one!!!  

Also it seems the website is down???!  I’m currently outside the US so it may be a server thing???  I’ll have ti check tomorrow but the end may indeed be nigh?

Manta will be in the same boat.  Loosing the high conductive nails will loose high conductive silver. The tester that posts as LeJag on Dankowskis forum has discussed it a few times. 

Kind of bummed, but it seems that the pinpointer will only pair with the latest “green “ headphones and not the “blue” that came with the Kruzer. 

43 minutes ago, kac said:

 

I pick up quite a bit of finds in areas where I have seen others hitting with their machines, usually nickels and quarters they skip over. 

I love checking out a park or school for the first time and not finding many coins.  Usually means someone has cherry picked all the coins relying on IDs and as a byproduct left the jewelry behind. 

I will make no claims of being able to dig gold without digging junk but I don’t mind digging foil and tabs in a spot that may hold gold jewelry. I will say that with the newer Mojave the audio is the best so far in regards to tone differences between a good ring vs. foil or tabs. But the majority of jewelry found is broken or misshapen and rarely gives a nice “round” tone. 

Either way, finding gold in parks is far from glamorous.  To consistently find it you’re going to dig a bunch of crap. 

It really comes down to them loosing or maybe just not competing in the changing world of marketing.  The companies selling tone and visual ID detectors have sold the necessity of distinguishing a penny from a dime or a nickel from a pulltab.  “Coin shooting” is great and all and the potential for a windfall coin find is out there but none of the forms of ID are of much help in distinguishing a gold ring from a pulltab or a gold chain or earring from a bit of foil.

Don’t get me wrong as I do enjoy using these more modern detectors as well but most of my detecting time is spent jewelry hunting and for that a Tesoro is hard to beat. I have confidence in them and that is the most important thing.  

In a selfish sense I am glad everyone doesn’t have a Compadre.  If they did there would be a lot less gold hiding in the playgrounds for me to find!!!

On 2/18/2019 at 10:03 AM, groundscanner said:

Noah,

Like you I am a little confused by the manual info.   I have not found any coins with mine just yet. I have only been relic hunting so far.

Let us know if coins in the wild read differently from air test results.

MT

Probably won’t vary much in ground unless a coin were next to a nail or other lower conductor.   

The zinc cent giving a high tone is the deal breaker for me.  Wouldn’t matter for old site/woods relic hunting but for school yard/parks it makea the screen/VDI necessary to wed out zincs.  Same reason I don’t have a CZ. 

Guess I’ll stick with my current tools unless I go full Deus for the tone hunting versatility or maybe give the Equinox a go???

Till then I’ll keep on Kruzin’.

Congratulations. 

Looks like it’s working for ya!!

Thanks for the info.  

Always get a kick out of the comic strips when they dabble in detecting or prospecting. 

Thanks fellas.  

I’ve gotten used to having the tone break right at zimc so they give a mixed tone with the Kruzer. It’s nice in parks and schoolyards for getting an ID range without having to look at the screen. 

Just curious as to the mid/high tone  break and where it falls in relation to zinc pennies. Its hard to tell from looking at the diagram in the owner manual.