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Jeff McClendon

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  1. I understand Melano87’s statement but I don’t know if it is possible. All gold would have to have just one target ID number or some other unmistakably distinguishable characteristic that a VLF can detect and discriminate from aluminum. No VLF detector I know of can do that perfectly including the Deus. Certainly not XP’s fault. Speaking of gold, I guess I better find quite a lot of it so I can afford this mysterious new XP detector.
  2. This was posted in an Iron Bias topic by Steve a year or so ago. I have no idea if it is really accurate:
  3. The added vibration mod in the Polish YouTube video was great added to the Excalibur. Something like that could be added to an Equinox. However, I am going to repeat.....I would not dive with an Equinox. Yes it is listed as waterproof to 3 meters. There have been far too many reports of the Equinox control box not being waterproof to 3 meters or even 3 centimeters. If you want to work underwater, you should be using a detector that is specifically made for that. The Equinox is very versatile but there are far better detectors for diving than the Equinox especially in saltwater. As another poster mentioned, I would buy a Nokta Makro Simplex (US $254) or the Nokta Makro Pulse Dive (US $160) which both have built in vibration instead of diving/snorkeling with an Equinox. You may spend more than that just to get vibration on your Equinox.
  4. To start, I have never used this type of headphones. I know someone that does use a wired brand of bone phones when metal detecting in areas where he wants to have full situational awareness and wants to hear his surrounding area with his ears. He does not have any hearing issues. He has used them either plugged directly into the Equinox control box or plugged into the WM08 module. They work well for him. So, first, if you really want to keep your Equinox (totally understandable) I would start out with a wired set paired with your WM08 and see if they work for you for general detecting. There are wired supposedly waterproof versions listed on both Amazon and eBay currently. There are hundreds of wireless models listed too and some are waterproof. However, they do not appear to be APTX Low Latency. I am not even sure if that matters with bone phones...........? Personally, unless I was wearing a wet suit head covering or some type of waterproof tight fitting head covering, I would be afraid that bone phones would fall off when snorkeling or if I was hit with a wave. That goes for any type of headphones underwater. Also, I would not dive with an Equinox. I would only use mine in shallower and calmer water, not rough surf, but that is just me. Here is a link to a wired version by a well know company. https://www.ebay.com/itm/124952950250?hash=item1d17c6b5ea:g:2rUAAOSwDyhgBPYJ
  5. Dave, at least from my testing and experience, the F2 version of Equinox iron bias is much more aggressive than the original Fe version. Also, similar to your situation, on beaches where there is plenty of black sand, using any iron bias setting doesn’t make much difference on non-ferrous targets since they start to all sound like iron past a certain beach specific depth. That double beeping on iron targets, especially nails, is a very common telltale on most VLF and PI gold nugget detectors too. It is not foolproof but for shallower iron it can usually be trusted. On deep stuff………..taking a chance.
  6. Yes. Dave, I have no idea how any of what has been said here would apply to the saltwater beaches you hunt in Mexico. Personally, I don’t mind digging steel crown bottle caps. I have hunted east coast USA beaches where a nickel stays in the correct numerical and tone ID all the way down to a foot deep and the same with other non-ferrous targets with FE or F2=0 or 1 using Beach 1 or 2 in 5 tones. At some San Diego area beaches I have hunted, everything sounds like iron after about 6” depth no matter what FE or F2 is set on. I usually just hunt there in 2 tones and dig it all.
  7. Thanks NCtoad. From some of the responses so far it does appear that using too much F2 iron bias can result in missed deeper non-ferrous coin sized targets from some of your experiences. For me, I don’t think too much iron bias has an effect on depth of non-ferrous coin sized targets. I do think using too much F2 can seriously skew towards iron how a deeper non-ferrous target audibly responds which for me is definitely an issue. There is plenty of natural and human made deeper iron where I often detect. I trust the Equinox so much that when a target sounds like iron I may move on to the next target. After today I will only do that if I have F2 on zero.
  8. My reason for starting this topic is to see what others are experiencing and not to presume that my results in higher iron mineralization are normal. Thanks for responding
  9. Like I said in the original post: in order left to right, stainless steel, junk metal with gold plating, and two very small .925 silver that come in at 22 on the Nox. Every target on that plate could have easily been gold.
  10. Thanks for the responses Chuck and Hugh. The nickels and especially the pull-tabs are an indicator for me. They are not specifically my target. Gold jewelry is my target at this site. I know what happens in this park on weekends and dropped jewelry is a given since there are at least 20 volleyball nets setup throughout the spring, summer and early fall and have been for years. I have found recent jewelry and coin drops at this park. If I am missing obvious deeper nickel and pull-tab signals at this site which appears to be the case, I am missing deeper gold and small silver jewelry targets too, due to an iron bias setting that is set too high F2=6, by default in every mode……….just so folks won’t dig rusty steel crown bottle caps and complain to Minelab. I once had knee surgery and specifically told my surgeon not to put a external pain med pump in my knee that I could use if the after surgery pain was too much for me. I woke up and he had installed the pain pump. I was pissed. It fell out constantly and left a dime size bleeding hole in the side of my knee. I later found out that he went against my wishes so I wouldn’t disturb his weekend since the Red Sox were playing in the World Series. OMG!
  11. I have been suffering from plantar fasciitis and torn ligaments in my left ankle for about 6 months. The plantar fasciitis has cleared up on its own. The torn ligaments have not yet healed so hunting with a dig it all approach just hasn't been possible since last March. Walking is iffy enough, but lots of getting up and down is very painful. So, I have had to limit myself to shorter outings and lots of cherry picking. I tried an experiment using the F2 iron bias feature during my recovery for some of the parks I hunt that have high iron mineralization. I used Park 1 and Park 2 with F2=4 and just concentrated on obvious no brainer signals. Deep or shallow didn't concern me, just the quality of the response. I hunted with both zero discrimination and with half of the iron range rejected = -9 to -6. My target recovery of deeper low to mid conductive targets pretty much ceased to exist during this time.......deeper silver jewelry and coins along with any depth of higher conductive US modern coins (wheats, copper memorials, clad dimes and quarters, Kennedy halves and modern "gold" President and Sacajawea dollars) was seemingly not effected. Today, I hunted an exact area that I had hunted a month ago with those settings except that I hunted with F2=0 and dug every target that sounded good. I had already cleared out the higher conductive clad so none was found. I tested every low to mid conductor target from +6 to +22 (the gold and small silver jewelry range) that sounded decent using F2=0, and then switched to F2=4 and F2=9 before I dug the targets. All of these targets which were clear and obvious targets using F2=0 were beyond the range of my handheld FTP Tek Point pinpointer that was set on maximum which usually reaches coin sized targets down to 3.5 to 4" in this park. All of the targets in the photo except for the first two modern pull-tabs (bright silver and red surface finds) were recovered at deeper than 4". Some were as much as 8". They all sounded very good with repeatable signals in all four swing directions (+), and had dig me gold range numbers using F2=0. Using F2=4, all of these targets were iffy at best and the deeper ones sounded mostly like iron. Using F2=9, all of these targets were mostly iron with just a hint of low to mid conductor tones and corresponding numbers. It is no wonder that I previously walked right over these targets since I had limited myself to digging only excellent sounding targets due to my injury. Even if I wasn't injured, I am not sure that I would have dug these using F2=4. No way using F2=9. Two of the nickels are fairly old for the Denver area, a 1949 and a 1960. Both were 8" deep and sounded very good using F2=0. The big stainless steel ring (+8) and the Avon gold plated junker (+14) were 6" deep and sounded fantastic with F2=0. The two .925 small silver jewelry items (+22) sounded great using F2=0 and were 5" deep. So, in higher iron mineralization, are my results an outlier or is using F2 iron bias above zero just too agressive on low and mid conductor non-ferrous targets? Comments, disagreements and Pooh Poohing are welcome.
  12. Bone conduction headphone can be wireless or wired and vibrate through the cheek bones. There are water proofed versions too.
  13. At least in the areas I hunt with moderate to high iron mineralization, if I set the F2 iron bias even at 4 on my 800, deeper low and mid conductive targets can have very clipped nonferrous tones with iron tones mixed in. That can happen whether I am using zero discrimination or a small amount of iron notching like rejecting -9,-8 and -7. I actually tried using F2 set at 4 this summer and my deeper nickel/lead/gold target recovery decreased drastically. I am slowly re-hunting those locations with F2=0 and am finding deep nickels, some earlier wheats that read lower than later wheats and copper memorials, some fired bullets but......no gold yet!!!
  14. Chuck explained deep nickel responses on the Equinox very well. I have dug 10”+ deep Jefferson, Buffalo and V nickels which had standard nickel audio and slightly expanded 11 to 14 target IDs. At least in my area, I rarely recover pulltabs and can slaw at 8” or deeper so those deep, coin sized responses in the 11 to 14 range are usually nickels, lead bullets, other lead targets or something else interesting. I have noticed that using too much F2 iron bias can really effect the audio response of low to mid conductive nonferrous targets like nickels in my hunting areas.
  15. So, there are some non-ferrous relic hunting places that I simply cannot engage the All Metals Accepted horseshoe button and hunt. I would go more nuts than I already seem to be........The iron mineralization is just too enormous and/or iron targets are too thick. I compromise by accepting enough iron range IDs to hear most iron targets without having to hear continuous -9, -8, -7 and maybe -6 ground/target responses. This setup does not seem to really effect non-ferrous target ID audio length. What does really effect non-ferrous target ID audio length is an F2 iron bias setting above 0 or at most 1 in the areas I relic hunt that have both high iron mineralization and numerous iron targets. Lowering the recovery speed to 5 or 4 does help with clipped non-ferrous responses but that is also an iffy compromise in thick iron/high mineralization. 1929 Wheats read 22 to 24 on my equinox and 71-74 on my Simplex in air tests. Andy and Hugh, I totally agree that the Simplex is a very good detector in thick iron trash as is the Equinox. This is why I wanted to try the Simplex and the APEX in tough hunting conditions and is why I bought them for testing. The Simplex has not disappointed at all. I really look forward to Nokta Makro's SMF/Simplex detector. The Deus is definitely on another level in iron trash but any kind of dependable depth on coin sized or smaller targets past 5", if you add in iron mineralization using a Deus....... ain't happening.
  16. I had a similar question. What was your discrimination setting on the Nox and Simplex for the 1929 Wheat penny. The 66-68 and 17 target IDs are consistent with nearby iron target/mineralization down averaging for that coin.
  17. Thank you for the great write-up. Your Garrett ACE APEX results sound very familiar. My former Apex has a new owner………. I hope it works well in their soil conditions. Rocky Mountain USA F75 4 bar Fe3O4 iron mineralization is tough for any VLF detector. The Multi IQ Equinox with its adjustable recovery speed and different frequency weighted modes (Park1 vs Park2 etc.) make it a very good iron trash and modern aluminum trash relic detector in this tough dirt. The Simplex is also excellent. I hope Nokta Makro’s SMF detector will be as good or better especially with more accurate target IDs on deeper targets.
  18. I realize that. The Mojave was a very nice detector for its original price........a Silver uMax with ground mineralization Low/Hi and a really good coil. Even though it would not ground balance well in either setting where I often detect and the discrimination knob was useless on deeper targets for the same high mineralization reasons, I have always regretted selling it. So, my asking what the lowered price actually is was a serious question.
  19. Price lowered to what????? I bought a Mojave brand new when they came out. Paid $249…………… Just sayin’
  20. Spent a never to forget week at Crater Of Diamonds State Park about 30 years ago. Never been back. Too stupid to know better, I went in the middle of summer. Being from Georgia….Arkansas shouldn’t have been a problem. I was constantly assailed by insects like something out of a science fiction movie….some of the biggest horseflies I have ever seen, nasty bees, sweat flies and millions of mosquitos and chiggers. The puke yellow rotten kimberlite mud was amazing, rained every day…….even the old timers were miserable. No one found any diamonds that week. The diamond in the link is fantastic. It has to be 1/3” in diameter and would be impossible to miss with the naked eye on the surface if the ground there wasn’t too wet. A great museum quality find and typically was done without any real “work”. That figures.
  21. In mild dirt the 9”X35 would be deeper. In mineralized dirt……..who knows. I have the 9” HF coil and used to own the 9”X35. For reasons that I cannot explain, the HF coil on similar frequencies (14 and 28) was deeper and more sensitive to small, poorly oriented targets using either the ORX in its Coin Fast and Deep programs or the Deus Fast program. The Simplex using its stock 11” coil was deeper than either XP coil. Deeper in my case meant that these detectors would hit 6 to 8” non-ferrous targets. They would not come close to identifying them correctly however other than to give high conductor target IDs in the 90s and high tones or no ID on deep non-ferrous targets.
  22. So, Nevada (some iron/salt mineralization) and mostly aluminum trash. The ground itself will likely mask targets and the amount of aluminum present will potentially mask targets for sure. I have not enjoyed using the ORX in its limited 3 tone coin modes with any coil in modern aluminum trashed areas. I can't say I even enjoy using the Deus in that situation. That doesn't mean I won't use them in modern aluminum/higher mineralization, it is just a lot harder for me to deal with mid-conductor target recognition using the Deus and especially the ORX. You will have a better chance of isolating targets with the elliptical coil due to its size. Personally, in Rocky Mountain US mineralized dirt I have had better luck in modern aluminum trash with frequencies over 18 kHz on the ORX and Deus but that is just my experience in my very variable dirt. You can check the mineralization with both the Simplex and ORX. If your mineralization bars are half or more full........good luck getting much depth with accurate target IDs which makes hunting in aluminum trash even more of a challenge. So, personally I do better in aluminum trash here in Denver with the Simplex. That doesn't make a lot of sense with it running at 12 kHz, but its SP24 coil and its audio, iron volume adjustments and its excellent Park 1 program are just better than the ORX Coin programs in my opinion and I have hundreds of hours on both detectors. Sure the ORX is lighter, but at least for me I have more of a grasp of what is under the coil using the Simplex in aluminum trash. That said, if you want to relic hunt or gold prospect in your area, the ORX is an excellent relic detector in ground with very little modern aluminum trash. It is an outstanding gold prospecting detector for shallower, smaller nuggets in its Gold modes. Monte Berry (Monte on this forum) has even more hours and experience than me on the ORX and Simplex. He may add to this thread if he sees it. If not you can send him a private message and he will give you some great tips.
  23. Great finds and with the Vanquish 540 with its supposedly average to below average performance in iron. "Very satisfying, as the only silver I've found here before, was a nice money clip, and some cheaper jewelry! The silver coins where "all" vacuumed up years ago, and any left have gotten deeper, or totally out of reach!!" I know you didn't ask but your hunt results sound very promising to me. Finding a 1920 wheat and a 1951 Rosie in a turf area with a Vanquish would definitely inspire me to keep hunting those deep half and half iffy targets, especially with your Equinox in both Park modes with iron bias on 0 or 1 at the most, recovery speed on 3 to 5 and some or all of the iron target IDs accepted. Crank up the sensitivity until it gets unstable then back off a bit and noise cancel. Ground balance if you need to also. Hunt it multiple times in different modes and directions and keep finding those oldies. Hope your foot feels better...........wish mine would😪
  24. Marcasite is a really good guess. I would go one step further and call it as a specimen of limonite pseudomorph after marcasite. Saharan specimens are fairly common.
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