Jeff McClendon

I could care less whether Manticore has 50% more of something going to the coil. I just care about how it detects. Like some others who own one it seems to be great for some tasks and okay to good for others. The sentiment I keep reading is the “wow factor” has worn off. Anyway, Merrill of Detecting NYC rarely gets his technical facts straight. He actually confuses sensitivity and transmit power in this video and basically cannot understand (or doesn’t want to on camera in order to perpetuate his narrative) the very good responses that Mark Lawrie gave him. I get really tired of watching these click bait, agenda filled videos whether the agenda is either a grudge against a manufacturer, a particular detector, a forum, an individual or the agenda is pure self aggrandizement and ego mania.

DSmith, I would not have suggested the wireless Aukey B80s if they weren't APTX Low Latency. They are APTX LL. They are pretty good at eliminating some ambient sounds so I don't know how they would do as a solution for hearing ones surroundings compared to the Torus. The do work great for eliminating tons of sweat when using over the ear headphones and they sound really good to my ears.

Thanks, but I'm not quoting those numbers for any reason except to back up your statement. I am fortunate to detect in a large metropolitan area with lots of people that lose stuff regularly. Like Chuck, I have bought and sold a lot of detectors, especially since the release of Multi IQ detectors. Most I bought used so I didn't take a big hit and I don't mind selling one for what looks like a bit of a loss. In my book, I was just renting it for a few months.

When a company like Nokta prices a mid to high end (performances wise) detector at a mid to low end price, we the consumer don't take a big hit during resale down the road. On the other hand when a manufacturer can drop prices like Minelab just did for the month of February.......consumers that want to sell a similar model used look like idiots for even thinking about trying to sell. They have to sell at half price of what? Minelab's sale amount? Brick and mortar dealers trying to sell used units and dealers seeing their new detector profit margin cut by sales like that............ For buyers it is fantastic. Slightly used Equinox 800s on eBay for $500......... Anyway, to support Oneguy's comments, people like me that depend on inland coin and jewelry hunting and can only do nugget prospecting and saltwater beach hunting occasionally really can support their hobby with finds. These numbers are just to give an example of what a normal person can do that has the time, physical health and persistence. Hopefully others have found lots more treasures than I have. Since the Equinox was released my modern clad finds have totaled over $3,000 and jewelry finds are over $4000. Those are cashed in amounts for clad and scrap jewelry. I am not lucky, I work at it regularly. The fun and enjoyment I get from metal detecting and from meeting great people in this hobby both in person and online is way beyond those dollar amounts.

The video maker failed to put the Equinox in the all targets accepted discrimination pattern so the audio is choppy since the iron and borderline target IDs were rejected. The Manticore (I think) was setup to accept all target IDs. GPX 6000 has no setting for accept/reject discrimination.

Aukey B80 earbuds work well with my Nox 800, GPX 6000 and Legend.

That whole episode was way too cosmic for me. Crazy. Glad everybody is safe.

The last thing I want to do is get into an argument about a 1/2". I also don't want to get into an argument about which is better.....GPZ 7000 or GPX 6000. I know which one suits me better at this point. I watched the video to see if I would have any interest in the 12X7" coil vs the 11". That was my frame of reference....not whether a detector that wasn't in the video is better than one that was.

Depends on the site. From 85 to 92 mostly.

You guys math seems a little off. 11” coil on the 5 gram at manual half sensitivity got hits that I would have dug at 225 mm or 9”. At manual full sensitivity the 11” coil got hits on the 5 grammar at 250 mm or 10”. Jenko uses a pvc pipe buried at a 45 degree angle so those nuggets if they are relatively flat are detected partially on edge. Dirt is different and that dirt looked pretty hot. I’ve detected wild 5 grammers with an Equinox 800 6” coil at 6” depth in moderate mineralization. My GPX 5000 could hit a test 5 grammer in the same dirt on normal with the 11” commander mono at 12” easily. I’ve used the same 5 gram nugget for testing at a highly mineralized site and got similar 8 to 9” depths like the ones in the video with the GPX 5000 11” mono. Nox 800 with 6” coil hit the 5 grammer test nugget at 4”. I am sticking with the Coiltek 10 x 5 and the stock 11” mono for now. I have no desire to swing a GPZ for very long or pay a fortune for the hottest Zed coils. The GPX 6000 already costs more than one of my cars…….

I don't play the "show me a Youtube video" game. I just report what I experience just like you Dave. I simply don't have the ground to detect that lets me have any "always and nevers" when it comes to absolute settings. And, every time I have saltwater beach hunted with a Nox, I have had to adjust settings to match the beach which includes changing from tracking to ground grab depending on black sand and salt content.

I just look at the mineralization meter at the bottom left of the Deus 2 remote display. 3 to 5 bars is moderate mineralization. Anything above that is going to cause some issues unless I do a good ground balance.

That has not been my experience using the Equinox Beach Modes. Very small targets and targets that are exhibiting very small profiles like targets on edge, can become much weaker with repeated swings over them. They will be seen almost like part of the beach after several swings especially if their target IDs are already near the salt ground balance point and I accidentally do a slight up and down motion over them. So items like small earring backs, small studs, small rings that are broken/damaged, very small chains could (not saying they 100% will or won't) be missed. They are hard enough to detect with the Equinox Beach modes anyway. Specifically looking for those with tracking engaged.......I probably wouldn't do it unless the target I was after was submerged. So, for normal sized .5 gram and up coin sized targets that are showing a good profile, I don't see tracking ground balance being an issue. Smaller than that............100% tracking won't have a detrimental effect..........I don't agree with that statement.

I had a Quest Q40 for several months back in 2019. I wasn't planning on buying one but the price was incredible. It did as well as any quality single frequency detector where I detect. I really liked it but I just didn't need it. I have owned Quest/Deteknix wireless audio products and one of their pinpointers for many years. Outstanding quality that works on par with the competition. So obviously, Quest/Deteknix has not only survived at least two FTP versus Quest/Deteknix lawsuits for intellectual property infringements......... in my opinion they are producing detectors and accessories that are far more innovative and effective than anything First Texas Products has to offer except for the FTP F-Pusle/Tek-Point pinpointers. I am glad they have continued to grow and have become a viable option for many new detector users and now have produced a very competitive simultaneous multi frequency/selectable single frequency detector line for the more demanding, advanced detector users too.

If XP designed Deus 2's target ID system just for Americans, we probably would not be having this conversation about the difference in target ID and audio response between a clad dime, silver dime and a copper penny..........or a quarter and half dollar. Obviously, XP is not JUST thinking about USA coinage. Having a way to adjust ID normalization would be helpful, but for me, I am like a couple of other posters, if the target seems to be coin sized and the target ID is 90 to 98.......I'm digging it when the ground isn't frozen. Do you USA users remember how Deus 1 and the ORX would scream on steel crown bottle caps that would also have target IDs in the 90s…….? Thanks XP for preventing that annoyance with Deus 2.

Cool, a USA "made" detector with a Florida zip code and a phone number from Turkey. By no means am I implying anything bad about Turkey. I love my Nokta detectors. I don't for one second think this detector is being made in Turkey.......

I think this statement is the one to pay close attention to instead of those by YouTubers that are nearly as inexperienced as me since I don't own a Manticore yet or from those that are making statements about the Manticore who will not own one. Detecting in thick USA Colonial iron trash is no easy task even for people with lots of experience on their chosen detector. The same holds true for Western USA ghost towns. Using a newly obtained high end VLF detector at these type of sites and coming to a quick conclusion.........not smart. These newer online updatable higher end VLF detectors are using Beta software whether the manufacturers like XP and Nokta admit it or those like Minelab don't. We who use them are also in a way Beta users. My opinion about one of my newer detectors like the Legend, Deus 2, Nox 900 and even the Nox 800 changes a bit every time I use it as does my knowledge due to detecting different sites with different parameters. I am really glad that I can dig deeper into these detector's sub menus and make the adjustments needed. Unlike some, I don't have the kind of ground conditions that allow "out of the box" default settings use. I need many hours behind these detectors and many settings adjustments on ALL of them to get the performance that they potentially can provide.

Channel mounted stones are not held with glue.

Not since I have been using them. Some refineries do but there is a fee for removal. Removing prong held stones is simple. Removing stones in a channel setting is next to impossible with lots of gold loss. If a jewelry find obviously has a larger quality diamond or precious gemstone, an appraisal is a good idea. None of the scrap I sent in had any quality gemstones.

Just received my check from Midwest Refineries. I mailed them my 10K and 14K scrap gold jewelry finds and my .925 silver scrap jewelry finds for the last 18 months for processing. I removed as many gemstones as I could before mailing. It all fit into a USPS Priority Mail Small Flat Rate box. I added some extra insurance. Midwest received and processed it on the same day and I have a check in my hands for $2,400 or so after a one week turnaround. They paid 95% of melt value on the gold and 90% on the silver with no additional fees. Very easy to deal with, no questions asked, just follow their instructions. The amount they sent me is within $200 of my estimate too, so very happy.

The Legend and the Simplex run very hot meaning they are super sensitive detectors. If you can stand the background noise floor and still hear responses from deep targets OR if you have absolutely no EMI or ground mineralization whether iron, volcanics, fertilizer or salt to deal with, crank up the sensitivity as high as possible or just max it out. Right now, I can detect about the first 3 inches of ground.....deeper than that is frozen solid. So I am running my Legend at around 20 since there is no point in trying to detect deeper targets through 6" of snow.......... For areas with lots of possible recent drops, whether the ground is frozen or not, lowering the sensitivity is actually a really good strategy and the Legend or any hot detector will not detect some of the fly speck aluminum and iron bits. Raising the coil a few inches off the ground will do the same thing.

Gigmaster reviews the Deus 2. Unlike most YouTubers, Gigmaster waited until he had almost one year of near daily use at saltwater beaches and on land based relic hunts before he recorded a review of his Deus 2s. Unvarnished, no nonsense, straight forward review.

So, this technology is called Simultaneous Multi Frequency. It isn't called alternating multi frequency. I realize "simultaneous" may not be simultaneous when we are talking about fractions of nano seconds but for my purposes that word works for me.

The 2 Euro reads 42/43 on my Nox 900. The 2 Euro is 75% nickel. The 2 Euro coin is magnetic due to its high nickel content so maybe that has something to do with it slightly confusing the Equinox 900 and the Manticore which seem to have very aggressive high end iron bias settings. The USA modern 5 cent coin is only 25% nickel and is not magnetic due to its 75% copper content. It gave all four detectors no problems even with their Bottle Cap/Iron Bias settings maxed out. I did notice that the Legend's Iron Filter setting maxed out at 8. Now it has an additional setting of 9 so the video maker must have been using a Legend with 1.09 software instead of 1.10.

YES. From the air and in the ground testing I have done with both the 800 and 900, there is a 3/8" to 1/2" difference between recovery speed setting 4, 5 and 6 which are the settings I normally use for everyday hunting in moderate mineralization on USA coin sized targets even using default 20 sensitivity. This testing includes Beach 1 and Beach 2. Some have said here that there is no difference. Others have said that settings 1, 2, and 3 don't offer much difference. I haven't used or tested those lower settings so I can't comment. Lowering recovery speed lets the detector spend a fraction more time on a target and will elongate the audio responses just like raising the recovery speed will abbreviate the audio responses and shorten the time the target is checked. If you have two targets with similar size but different conductivity that are not at the same vertical depth but are overlapping, the one that is closer to the coil may have an audio response that overpowers the target that is deeper if the recovery speed is set lower for example. If the recovery speed is raised, both targets might be able to give enough of an audible response to know there are two possible targets. Sensitivity may help to amplify the signal response of deeper targets and to create more accurate target IDs and audio responses. Raising sensitivity will also amplify other signal responses from tiny bits of trash and amplify responses that are not recoverable targets like ground interference and electro-magnetic interference.