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  1. Guess we'll just have to agree to agree. I knew what you were trying to say, and if you read my (edited) post I'm basically agreeing with your point of view overall. I was simply pointing out a specific statement that to me conflated "capable" with "best", that's all. My point being that it is kind of the recpicol to the absurd "best" argument, i.e., just because something is not the best at one task doesn't mean its not capable at that task. Sorry it set you off again on the Calabash rant.
  2. I was with you, Simon, until you made this statement. D2 is certainly "nugget capable" as evidenced by the nugget finds posted here and elsewhere.. Is it going to be your first choice if you have other options? It depends on what those options are: Nox or 24 K, nope. Legend? Maybe. But just because you might go with another detector if you have the luxury of that option of choice, doesn't mean the detector you don't choose is rocking a false claim of being "capable" of nugget detecting or whatever the case may be. It's multi purpose, just as the Legend and Nox, its not going to excel at all tasks, but it is certainly going to work in a pinch for nugget detecting, beach detecting, relic hunting, coin shooting etc., judt the Legend and Nox. I agree with you in the sense that claims for it being "the best" or "better than brand X" or obsoleting all existing detectors, are, of course, absurd. Regarding Legend, the 6" coil does allow the Legend to go where D2 can't with its 9" coil and enhances micro target sensitivity, so there is that but I have not delved into detailed sensitivity studies between the two detectors to know for sure who wins that battle. I DO know D2 is challenged at the sub gram level compared to the original Deus and Orx, and certainly compared to the Nox which seems to reign supreme in the VLF world in this regard. Now is it valid to claim D2 a great or even good nugget capable detector? I think we can safely say D2 (at least in its present feature state and coil selection) is not a great nugget capable detector. Whether it is a good nugget capable detector is a legitimate debate question. Perhaps that debate will change if XP wisely sees fit to provide a selectable single frequency variant of the Gold Field program on D2 and, better yet, provides a D2 compatible 10x5 coil in the future. All that being said, I think the point of this thread should be the takeaway that comparing the Legend to Deus 2 to Nox to whatever is like trying to debate what fruit is best. I own all these detectors and so feel qualified in saying that debate is a futile endeavor, with the answer always predicated by the phrase "it depends" (unless you're Calabash ). I like all three of these detectors for varying reasons. For the most part the capabilities of the Legend are eclipsed by D2 and Equinox as a formidable complimentary pair of detectors that can take on just about any detecting challenge suitable for a VLF. The Legend, on the other hand, is the best detecting value out there right now bar none - nothing can hold a candle to it in terms of performance, ergonomics, features, and versatility at that price point. It holds in own in the shadow of its XP and Minelab competition, outshining them in certain specific areas. It has a superior UI and ergonomics compared to the Nox, better price and coil selection vs. D2 and I could go on and on. When Legend gets its 10x5 coil, look out, the Nox, for what I use it for most (relic detecting), could start collecting some dust...
  3. The new designed orange clips with the volts display (wish it were mA because charge current can give you more information about the state of charge and connection integrity) are superior to the old Doodad design (and far superior to the XP clips, of course) . They are a perfect snug fit design with reliable electrical contact that are easily attached and removed to/from the coil.
  4. As mentioned previously, I don't believe there is anything special about the XP charger wall wart as far as being a charge regulator is concerned, just a run of the mill AC to 5 VDC usb converter that can easily be subbed by another similar charger. The regulator is built into the XP components as evidenced by the flashing lights or LCD icons when charge is complete. I rarely use the wall wart, however, preferring to charge from a multi-port usb charging bank that I can position anywhere as desired (as well as allowing me to top off the detector in a vehicle or on the go). My favorite 2-port bank below. Anker PowerCore Solar 10000, 15W USB-C Power Bank 10,000 mAh with Dual Ports, Flashlight, IP64 Splash Proof and Dustproof for Outdoor Activities, Compatible with Smartphones and Other Devices https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BRC7SCY I also prefer the tether (alone) for the reasons NC mentioned above. I like to remove and stow my remote when transporting it (or when charging) and I find the resistance of the stock mount to be fine, relatively easy to mount and unmount the remote with firm force but enough give to keep from snapping any plastic in the event of unplanned significant impact. I suppose if I was routinely in rough surf or something like that, the locking mount would make a lot of sense, because even with the unit tethered, who needs it constantly being knocked off the mount by the waves or similar forces regularly encountered in your specific detecting environment.
  5. Bingo. You nailed it Aaron. The audio is and always has been the Deus secret sauce coupled with its iron performance. D2 with FMF has brought some much needed enhancements to the UI, physical packaging/water tightness, stability in salt, more stable and accurate TID, and improved iron/bc filtering making it even more versatile. But it all comes back to the nuanced audio and the D2 even improved on that with the additional audio options associated with the equalizer and square audio. If you can master the art of subconsciously integrating the audio nuances coupled with the TID info and the ferrous/non-ferrous horseshoe graph, you can reduce your sole dependency on the TID numbers which can only reveal a fraction of the target information contained in the audio. You'll still dig your share of aluminum, just to be sure, but the audio will flip your expectations from possible gold ring, to likely aluminum and the occasional pleasant gold surprise.
  6. Tom D is a smart guy (I mean you can tell because, you know, he's from NASA), and a prominent detectorist with a website 😉, but geez, he really makes some off the wall statements at times that make other engineers like yours truly, just roll their eyeballs. The quote is a typical example. I mean there is some truth here but there also is some serious mumbo jumbo tech speak going on here, and he is just simply mistaken regarding the mysterious physics principles limiting Nox maximum target separation capability to 3 unless he is referring to the fact that there is only so much you can do with any given coil. Or, quite possibly, I am totally missing his (legitimate?) point because a lot of the context of the post is missing. Anyway, his "'maximum-tuned" "Electric Quiesence" reminds me of the "Retro Encabulator" video and like Jeff said ignores the "physics" effects of varying soil mineralization, but also: magnetic field shapes afforded by different coils; co-located target shape/composition field effects; and most importantly the variable signal processing speed capabilities of the Equinox detector, itself, especially in its different modes of operation. Yes, a Recovery Speed setting of 3 in Tom's treasure coast detecting world may give him Electric Quiesence Nirvana, but doesn't give me the detector response or separation needed in the hot dirt, iron hell patches I encounter in Culpeper Virginia, the Northern Neck, and SE Pennsylvania. And do you really think ML would snake oil it's customers and violate "physics principle[s]" by setting the Nox 800 default Recovery speed settings at between 4 and 7 (depending on mode) if "3" was really "maximum-tuned"? Call me skeptical, but I doubt it.
  7. Thanks for that link, but from what I can tell they are using a UK bronze half-penny which is like a US zincoln cent, I suppose, in terms of conductivity. That is. neither a mid nor a high conductive target (about 3/4 on 4 point conductivity scale or about a 75 on a 99 point scale). You can't draw absolute conclusions from a single target type, so who's to say whether Relic, GF, or Deep HC might hit harder on higher conductive or even lower conductive targets than what was used in the video. As a long time Deus user and instructor, I am well aware of the power of Gold Field and its minimal filtering. It is still a processed signal, however (especially in FMF), with IAR, notch, iron audio, reactivity, and (dynamic) audio response options, so not true all metal. Relic is simply using a slightly different (lower weighted) FMF profile than GF on the D2, that's the only difference, so lower conductivity, smaller profile targets are favored by GF vs. higher conductivity, larger profile targets by Relic, as a general rule, hence the "Relic" designation. But remember, on Deus 1 GF is switchable single frequency and can be used anywhere from 4 to 80 khz depending on the Deus 1 coil that is used. IMO, XP needs to explore providing a selectable single frequency variant of GF/Relic on the D2 as a future update, similar to the D2 Deus Mono Program 7 for the "Discrimination" modes, to give GF/Relic some additional capability for specific target groups such as sub gram gold and high conductors. For smaller target sensitivity and tight spots, a 5x10 coil would also be a welcome addition. In my experience, Relic gives me sufficient depth for general searching (especially in hot, mineralized ground) and Deep HC (or Sensitive/General/Mono) in Pitch and Full Tones gives me additional interrogation information to perhaps better characterize the target from the audio nuances in that modes tone options (which are not available in GF and Relic) after I have acquired it in Relic. I will certainly look closer at GF, but I think Relic still provides a better Middle of the Road option vs. GF and Deep HC in pitch to hit with sufficient depth and separation on a broader spectrum of targets that best suits my hunting objectives. In fact, since I am usually dealing with iron patches that are the telltale remnants of human habitation, I am more concerned with target separation and TID accuracy than raw depth. FWIW.
  8. I think that Relic is generally deeper than Deep HC except on the deepest high conductors where Deep HC has the edge due to it's lower top end frequency vs. Relic (14 vs. 24 khz). Relic and Deep HC are generally deeper than Gold Field except for small mid-cobductive targets. Mono frequency at 45khz has the best micro target sensitivity of any D2 program but the max detection depth is less than 2 inches on pinhead-sized targets.
  9. As sly says, 00 typically is displayed for ground or deep, weak targets pulled down to ground ID in high mineralization or other ground anomalies such as concentrated mineralization patches, ferrites and other hot rocks. If reading 00, you COULD have a weak, down-averaged deep target or one of these ground anomalies. Chances are high that it's a ground anomaly. Since the detector can't differentiate a ground anomaly from a legit target, if you notch 00 then yes, you will exclude the audio of a 00 target (you will still see 00 displayed as notch only suppresses audio) and there is a small chance you could pass over a deep legit target. But unless you plan on digging every 00 target, you wouldn't know for sure. Based on the number of 00 hits that I typically encounter in the Relic program, especially in mineralized ground, I couldn't possibly dig them all and would simply be digging any given 00 at random. Every 00 in Relic basically behaves the same way and as there really is no other way to interrogate a 00 target hit to differentiate one 00 from another 00 (most every 00 in Relic is silent in a "discrimination" program such as Deep HC (i.e., any program other than Goldfield or Relic)) I'd simply rather just notch 00 out and be done with it. Thus giving my ears a break. I also typically run with (Iron Audo Reject (IAR) at 5 in Relic. IAR does not silence 00 or ferrous IDs above 00. so that is why 00 notch is great. With IAR engaged, I still get "iron" volume for targets that ID above 0 and less than about 10. Oddly, even with IAR, 00 hits still sound off with non-ferrous pitch audio in Relic (and also presumably also in Gold Field). Why IAR doesn't make 00 audio sound off as iron audio like the other ferrous IDs ABOVE 00 is weird, but 00 notch takes care of it so I don't really care and can ignore that quirk. HTH
  10. I do use permetherin - it works well to repel ticks and you don’t have to put poison directly on your skin. When I need to apply repellant directly to my skin I use Natrapel which uses Picardin. I don’t have experience with Deep Woods Off V Ticks, sorry, but if it contains between 20 to 30% DEET by volume as advertised, it should be a very effective repellant. See this “Prevention” article for more info on effective repellent active ingredients (DEET, Picardin, Eucalyptus Oil, etc.) and suggested products. Note Off Deep Woods Insect Repellant V (essentially the same product you mentioned above), is highly rated for effectiveness in this article. https://www.prevention.com/health/a22095155/best-tick-repellents/
  11. Thanks. Got a week long beach trip planned, so I'll get a chance to corroborate your results, Dan. BTW $1 gold rang up 55 in the "wild" in Deep HC mode, so you can add that to list if you want. 😉
  12. Hey, don’t sleep on those dollarcoins either DD. Pulled one the other day that I thought was going to be a quarter. Nice surprise, (though I would have preferred gold, but the beach was having none of that. ) Hope you caught the comment above, but just a reminder to call out the built-in program (e.g., General, Sensitive, Deep HC, Beach etc.) that serves the basis for whatever custom program settings you are creating and sharing as two programs with identical custom user adjustable settings can behave very differently depending on whether you are using Deep HC or Beach starting point, as an example.
  13. Yep. Like I said, I prefer my eyes and ears to do the notching, not the machine. I like the Deus 2 BC filter implementation so far, but it’s not a notch, you can still hear the jacked up audio it produces and make the determination yourself whether to scoop it or not. Bottom line, the Deus 2 gives you a lot of options to use as you see fit to suit your particular needs and style. At this point, I applaud D2 and other modern detectors that give you the capabilities and options to allow you rather than the manufacturer to decide on what filter features and enhancements you want to utilize.
  14. Just to clarify, it’s not Aaron’s program it’s a a YT guy named Diggin Dude. His notch only goes to 40 (7 to 40 w/disc at 7) so all the above targets would have been captured if they rang up the same on Sense FT with the above lower notch settings. If you’re using Beach or Beach sense in saturated salt sand the TIDs above might be different in Sense FT on a non-salt beach. Experimentation is key. DD set Upper Notch from 84-93 which I agree would filter out chunky gold and also small silver. I’m really not a fan of high TID notches of any sort for the above reasons. Also wary of low notches too. Just set your visual discriminator to filter out scooping TIDs less than 40 unless the FT audio is really good. DD’s BC reject @ 4 is a bit aggressive, too, IMO. BC at 3 pretty much takes care of business and minimizes the risk of pushing smaller deep gold into ferrous audio. FWIW
  15. Yep. Neither will I. 0.71 seems like a keeper. But it's a good safety blanket in the event something pops up weird like with ver .70. Screenshot might help someone else who doesn't know they can roll back like drive-by poster kriticalj above...
  16. So when you click that down arrow, 0.6 doesn't show up like below?
  17. Looks like he is using Sensitive FT (P3) as his base program based on the screenshot below: Kind of an important factoid to leave out after DD went to all the trouble to make the video. Personally, not a fan of the upper notch. Potentially leaving smaller silver jewelry in the ground. Otherwise, glad Aaron posted the link.
  18. Strange. I just updated to 0.71 on another machine today and I still had the option to revert to 0.6.
  19. From p.43 of the manual. 9" 345g, 11" 470g, 13x11" 570g
  20. Have not encountered any performance issues with 0.71. Works A LOT better than 0.6 so far in terms of the improvements to the filters, audio, and the addition of notch to Relic and Gold Field - not missing 0.6 at all. A number of folks who post here have upgraded to 0.71 and you are the first to report a performance issue. Air tests are notoriously unreliable benchmarks. Are you 100% sure the machine was set up identically in both cases (i.e., same mode with the same exact settings for ALL parametes including frequency channel (same EMI situation) for both versions?) What program and settings are you using for your air tests? If you are convinced there is an issue, try reloading the update and test again. If you still don't like it you can still easily roll back to ver 0.6, so no need to wish you hadn't upgraded.
  21. Testing for learning optimal settings and especially “day of hunt” tuning to local conditions is a lot different than the ad nauseum comparative testing to determine detector superiority (in my opinion mostly a waste of my time to do and a waste of my time to watch). I agree with testing and experimentation to advance proficiency with a machine’s capabilities. Since F350 is my frequent detecting partner, I know EXACTLY where he is coming from with his “I’m not big on testing…” statement. Detecting time to me is like valued treasure in itself. Since some people do value my opinion on newly released detectors, I will begrudgingly do controlled testing to collect performance data if asked, but it bores me to tears. My reviews on detectors are more informed by in the field swing hours and natural conditions than by test garden tests. I utilize a test garden primarily for operational go-no go hardware checks, new detector familiarization, and tuning; to determine if updates have gross performance bugs; or to do crude comparative testing. In the field, I’ll use test targets for tuning of some settings, but that’s about it.
  22. Agree, no need to hear it all if you simply want to hear that you are swinging over "typical" iron. In Full Tones (FT), -6.4 can be overkill and will result in hearing micro iron and ceramics and perhaps even ground noise (but if you need to hear that stuff, that's why -6.4 is available). And as noted, if you set disc too high (above 3 to 5) you will completely lose iron tones in Full Tones. There is no disc iron volume above that maximum disc setting unlike when using Pitch or Multi Tones (2,3,4,5 tones). When using Full Tones in a program, I set disc anywhere from -2 to +2 to limit the iron "noise" and impact on non-ferrous TID down-averaging but still enable some iron to be heard to know I am near a former structure or place of human habitation In vers 0.71, XP enhanced the FT non-discriminated iron volume and allows you to adjust that volume but you can only hear the iron you don't discriminate out. Really wish they implemented iron volume in FT the way they did it with Pitch and Multitones where you can adjust the vo.ume level of the discriminated iron. Still experimenting with optimum disc settings in full tones. I use PCM full tones more as a target interrogation tool than as a pure search mode because the FT audio is so expressive and reactive to the nature and shape of the target, it gives you a good feel if you are swinging over non-symmetric, non-round targets like can slaw, high tid aluminum cans (distorted, "hollow" audio compared to the PCM FT "Sonar Ping" sound of a coin, button or ring), bent tabs, etc. that can ring up with gold or silver coin IDs and that sound pretty good in multi tones, or pitch (especially with Square wave audio). HTH
  23. Agree with using a BT adapter to make the lite setup wireless. However, the specs for the Ugreen BT adapter you are using in your photo do not appear to support APTX low latency or any other comparable low latency codec (e.g., LLDC)). I would highly recommend only using a BT receiver/transmitter and BT wireless headphone pair that supports APTX LL (low latency) which tops out at 40 ms latency or a functionally equivalent low latency BT codec or a proprietary low latency wireless audio system (from Garrett, Quest, or Minelab to name a few brands) designed specifically for metal detecting. Higher latencies (>40 ms) in wireless audio are very noticeable when swinging the coil at normal rates and show the target signal linearly offset from its actual position due to the wireless audio signal delay (latency), making them basically unsuitable for metal detecting use. FWIW
  24. Read p. 24 of the manual for the process for resetting any of the 4 custom user profiles to factory default settings.
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