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  1. I would think (guess) that there are just test points on the boards, and that there is an acceptable range of tolerance that allows a unit to pass. They can't all measure out exactly the same. So maybe some machines are still in the acceptable tolerance range in certain areas and others that are spot on, just like the lab prototypes. But then there is the coil, and that is where I think the tolerance is most important. Put together a unit who's PC board just makes the lowest tolerance level and place a just acceptable coil on it and you have an under performer. Put together the perfect unit with a perfectly balanced coil and you have a machine that just works great. I don't know if that scenario is what is going on, but in my head, it makes perfectly good sense 😆

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  2. 2 hours ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

    That's quite an interesting comparison between the Manticore and GPX. Congrats on the gold ring, well done!

    Thank you. It really does show what each machine can do in about the same amount of time.  Although not a true comparison, since I can't fire up both machines on a beach at the same time.

    2 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

    Nice hunt!  Congrats on the gold.

    Comparing the Manticore to the GPX is probably a test, but you certainly proved it will hold its own.

    So I guess you create a scale with your hands and decide whether you want less trash and shallower finds, or more trash and older, deeper stuff? 😀 🤔

    Seems to me a win/win either way, but the point is you still can go deep if you want. 👍

    Thanks.. Yep, unless a beach is completely sanded in, I'll be running the Manticore first and then going over it again with the GPX. The Manticore still gets me 10-12" if the EMI is mild and the sand is wet and mostly free of black sand. I think it will work well on flat beaches. I'll have to try that on a real low tide sometimes. This tide was a +0.3, so not very low at all.  But if you want deep, the GPX is the way to go. Wet sand I was hearing 15" softly, but solid.

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  3. Beach hunt # 22 was at a small beach that I was going to try some shallow water hunting at. Tides were not very low, but there was enough of the exposed beach to keep me busy. So no water hunt – saving it for warmer weather. I started with the Manticore and dug a lot of iffy targets so I could learn a bit more about how I can cherry pick, but still be confident that I am not missing anything in the small jewelry range. I could see holes in the water from the water guys and finding coins on the dry areas was a challenge for the Manticore. No 100+ coins this hunt. I did get a beautiful 53 reading at depth, and after extracting it and pinpointing it, I kept saying  to myself (in jest), this is the perfect gold target ID. So I scrape the sand away and there pops up a 7 gram, 14k man’s ring. This never happens when you say it’s going to be gold, at least it doesn’t for me. But that’s what it was and quite early in the hunt. I also hit a really beat Mercury and a bit of a toe ring. I later switched to the GPX and soon found out that the coins were out of range of the Manticore. They were 15+ inches deep and I was hoping for some more gold, but nickels is all I kept getting for low conductors. Sun setting, I called it a day. My first gold with the Manticore, and it hit very nicely tone wise and display wise. I’m liking this machine a lot.




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  4. 2 minutes ago, DSMITH said:

    I was going to give a link where Meril accused Mine Lab of Lieing, but it looks like it has been removed LOL

    Minelab reached out to him. He is re doing the video and including answers from Minelab on questions he had. They did not ask him to remove the video. He decided to make it private for a short time and then to delete it and redo it with any corrections or misunderstandings he may or may not have had. We shall see.

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  5. Here is how I do mine. I hate it when I scratch a coin.... no excuse for that, but poor pinpointing and digging technique.  I generally don't scratch the dirt off a silver unless it's a Roosevelt or Washington. I try and wait until I get home. The reason is I have found quite a few 1916 Mercury Dimes. If I rub the dirt on them, then I take the chance of one day seeing a "D" mint mark on a coin that may have passed grading. I haven't found that "D" yet, but who knows. Here are two examples of coins I dug and lightly washed the dirt off of them. Sent them into PCGS when they had a grading special if you joined. All the other silver and of course all of the coppers were rejected. This was just before they started slabbing environmental damage or cleaned on them. I was pleasantly surprised with the grades, higher than I expected. So, for most people it's up to them, but for me I rather wait and see if I have something with nice details, even if it's a common coin. I buy those do it yourself slabs for those coins.


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  6. 1 hour ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

    Wow, that's a heap of coins and copper and silver is always good to find. That grassy field might be hinding some deeper silver the others missed. Well done!

    Thanks. The fields are a weird consistency. There seems to be a layer of top soil around 9 inches and then a old, hard pan like layer below that. Almost everything is 9 inches and above. After that it's very hard to dig, and I'm not sure if there is an older layer than what everyone is reaching. I have yet to get a target in that hard layer.

    1 hour ago, F350Platinum said:

    Wow! You're starting to look like a VLF Hunter man, trash to finds is pretty even. 👍 😀 That's a lot of coins for this time of year, I went to a local beach and got .87. 🤣 not worth it. 

    That ring looks really nice, seems to have some fancy hallmarks, so you probably knocked out of of the park there. Add two silvers and a ton of modern change, that's a lot of digging. 👍 

    I wonder what took a bite out of the heart, or is that by design?

    Thanks. I really want to get the PI out, but I have to play with the new machine to see what it brings for my type of detecting. So far I really like it, much more than the 800. It does bring back E Trac/ CTX memories but with a modern twist.  The ring is odd. I believe it's a cobalt mix and the designer has a lot of variations, but this particular model says 8K and also .925. Most of his rings are Cobalt/mix. I can't find one that is .925. I should check his site and not retail sites. It is a big ring though. That heart has that slice in it for the other person to have the key to their heart. I'm not fond of it because it was deep and rang in the silver range. I thought I had a quarter of half, but no.... I got aluminum 🙄

    55 minutes ago, strick said:

    Nice work there Nox...I could tell by the photos right away that you were using the M-Core before I even read about your hunt. I've been using the M-Core exclusively except for a brief stint this morning at a nail infested hotel site. The M-Core is geared more toward coins then any other detector I've ever used. It bangs hard on all of them including nickels which I'm a bit surprised you did not bother with as they usually hit well in the 26-28 range where I hunt...I've been digging an averge of 12-15 per hunt in my clad infested parks...hoping for  gold ring....that said gold rings I'm not so sure yet if it hits as well as the Nox but on coins it's a no brainer the M-Core is leaps and bounds above the Nox....there I said it 😜


    I agree - it bangs on coins. Nice, solid, pure hits. No nickel digging for me. Thousands of low conductor hits, so I passed on them. I just wanted to see how much silver is left there. Not much but still not zero. I can't see a reason for the Nox except for chains and maybe tiny studs... not something I would hunt for exclusively. If I lived closer and not 2 hours away, I would dig the low conductors and keep a list of pull tab numbers and only dig the other numbers. But it makes no sense for me to mess with those low odds vs the time I have to detect. That is why I never waste a lot of time talking to people when they stop and ask me questions.

    19 minutes ago, rvpopeye said:

    Impressive finds pile as always  .  👍

    (Too bad the purple corvette has a bent rear ax...)

    Thank You. I may fix that axle and sell the car on E Bay for around 15k 😬

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  7. I'm somewhere in the middle. Not white sand and not extreme magnetite sand. I have found that the Manticore performs best on the wet saturated sand and does not do as well in the dry areas (with black sand showing/mixed in) In the wet areas, on my beaches, it ups the numbers closer to 99 (even on copper pennies), where as on dirt the numbers are lower and better separated. It does go deep, but I think it's best characteristic so far is the clarity and sharpness of coin signal, even at depth. I haven't posted yet, but above a beach, (grass dirt area), I hit coin after coin. I usually walk the same path back to the car when I hunt there and I was shocked at the number of coin hits the 800 missed. It's the clarity of the signal that impresses me the most. I agree that there is a lot of potential to unlock on this machine.

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  8. 2 minutes ago, strick said:

    I like oId Calabash and I've given him my opinions on his youtube channel...and I really appreciate anyone that takes all that time to make these videos (helps me to doze in the middle of the night)  But if your gonna make a video and go public with it then I reserve the right to comment on the video as I please when I please. I try to abide by the rules on this forum and sometimes may push the boundaries...but on youtube it's open season all year with no bag limit. 🙂


    I get it, but I just can't seem to get over the fact that everyone is talking about him this much. If this keeps going on, the page count may surpass the Equinox release.  😆

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  9. Can't believe people here are still talking about Calabash 😄 when there are a bunch of new machines out there. Right now, since the Manticore is doing very well for me, I could care less what Calabash or any other You Tuber is saying about it. I wish someone here could tell me how I can scrape up enough cash to get the Deus II, Legend, Axiom, etc... That's what we should be talking about 😉

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  10. 18 hours ago, Joe D. said:

       Not only that, but any critics of the 5000 on the beach ain't saying much either; you've proven it's worth, time and again!! (but it's still a beast to wield)!💪👍👍

    It is a beast though, certainly not for most people.  The only problem with the Manticore is it feels so light that when I pick up the GPX, I'm like "I can't swing this tank anymore" 😄

    17 hours ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

    Man, SOHN, it looks like the M-Core is doing a good job for you! Great finds and I don't think I've ever seen so little trash in your photos, well done!

    Thanks. That trash would have been even lower if I could have started out in the low tide. Most of the light stuff came from the upper beach. Down low that stuff was long gone, washed away by the sea. It's hard for me to even believe, but all those copper cents, silver and clad basically came from a 15x30' section.  I'm sure a lot of it was left because the scoops can not get past some of the big rocks that are locked together in place. With a spade you can pry them while kneeling. Then you just have to dig blind through the water until you get the signal out. Not fun, but judging the age of this beach, worth the time. Hopefully in 2 weeks the tide will just be barely low enough to expose those rocks again.

    3 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

    :laugh:  Lucky for you I didn't read the new finds post last night when I saw it on the index page.  Yes, finding a -CC mintmarked coin is tough, particularly in the East.  (Those lucky Western detectorists recover them like they're screwcaps.  OK, not true, but much easier to find in the West, relatively speaking still far, far from easy.)

    The story of the creation, operation, and evenual closing of the Carson City mint is an interesting page of USA history.  The prolific silver production of Northwest Nevada led to its creation, but it never lived up to the need.  In other words, the demand never caught up to the supply.  That led to considerable value to some (low mintage) issues in contrast to considerably production & availability in (only) a few others.  For example, only three years of dime production (1875-77) resulted in ~25,000,000 issued.  The previous four years together produced only ~87,000 and the last year (1878) only 200,000.  So less than 2% of -CC dimes were minted outside those 3 prolific years.  Those three years are not only #3, #1, #2 (in order of date) among dimes but in fact (if my findings from flipping through the Redbook is accurate), actually the three highest mintages of all -CC coins ever produced!  Dime was the smallest denomination minted; all silver denominations of higher face value, including the elusiver 20 cent piece, were produced, as well as gold in the $5, $10, and $20 denominations.

    Only the SE USA mints at Charlotte, NC (-C mintmark) and Dahlonega, GA (-D mintmark) produced fewer coins than Carson City, and that was because they never minted anything but gold coins.  Coincidentally all three of those mints had the same lifespan (24 years) but because of gaps in production, particularly 1886-88, Carson City had issues in the fewest number of years.  I wonder how many detectorists have found coins from all the USA mints....  I suspect you could count them on a couple hands, or less.

    Well, school, I hijacked your thread again, but I'm putting all the blame on F350.  😁  Is that your first -CC minted coin found with a detector?  A likely bucket-lister if so.

    (In case I haven't said this previously) I'm glad you have a Manticore and are giving us honest but cautious reports of its early performance.  Please keep that up.

    Geeze, that F350 guy is always making you hijack threads 😬 We should do a road trip and teach him a lesson. 😄 CC Seated coins are hard to find here and are usually pretty worn out, like the  "S" coins are. I think I may only have 3 of them. I'm trying not to get too pumped up with the Manticore, because there are different situational hunts that require different settings. So far I can tell it loves saturated sand and semi saturated sand (when the tide has receded a couple of hours ago). Like all Minelab detectors, the likes will over take the dislikes as soon as more people get their hands on them.  I'm just glad I got one in time for my winter beach season.

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  11. 6 minutes ago, Joe D. said:

       Well, #20 wasn't quite what I described previously, but well done just the same!👍

       Glad to see the Manti is working out for you! May the luck, and nice finds continue!🍀👍👍

     Thanks, I'm learning some new tricks. 😄 I think this is going to be a good machine. Can't wait to see if it really is. I bet you won't hear a peep from all those early reporters that could only find negative things to say about it. 🙂

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  12. 26 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

    Cool to see you using a discriminating SMF detector and getting results like that. That's a real jump for joy to find a CC coin! 🥳 Is the CC above or below the wreath, hurry up before GB gets here 😀

    You might get spoiled not digging so much trash and getting great results, but I'm sure the PI would have gone deeper.

    I'm hoping to get to a river beach soon myself to test out the D2. Excellent hunt! 👍 As usual. 


    Thanks! The CC is below the bow. The PI may go deeper but would have me digging a lot of needless small aluminum scraps. I'm pretty happy that I can cover most scenarios with the GPX and the Manticore. For tiny gold and gold chains I will still need the Equinox.  The real test is next time the tide is low enough for me to get back to that area. I have some  "thoughts"  🤔 on how to get more from there.

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  13. Beach hunt # 20 was at the beach that I just recently started to do well at. I had some friendly competition from a couple of guys from the area, that are very good detectorists. They filled me in on some of the finds that have come from that beach. It’s an older beach that has the potential to find older, silver coins. The tide was near record low (-0.8), and I was eager to give the Manticore a try on wet sand. Usually, you would use a scoop to dig, but not here. Really big rocks and smaller rocks below them. I opted for my trusty spade, but even with that, each hole takes a while to pry open. The water filling up every hole didn’t help either. 🙄  Since it wasn’t low tide just yet, I worked some of the less saturated, upper sand. Not a lot of signals but some zincs and junk. I almost gave in and pulled the GPX out but decided to give the Manticore some more time. Once I got into the really saturated sand, high conductive numbers started to show up. Most were copper pennies, but I was surprised that targets were every few feet. At first I didn’t trust the numbers because I was worried it was iron. There is a lot of iron at this beach. But they were real numbers and a couple of times there were 2 or 3 copper cents in one hole. Finally I hit a silver Mercury dime, and soon after a really clean Seated dime – 1875 CC (Carson City mint). 🥰 That made my day. I also found 3 Indians (one shot up), which I didn’t realize I had until I got home. The only piece of jewelry found was a silver ring. Ship spike were a cool find as well. A great day out and I’m glad that I only did 5 hours – I don’t think I could do more in that type of digging. I must say, so far I am very impressed with the Manticore’s ability to find deeper conductive targets. Next low tide I will be back in that same spot with some new ideas on how to get some more of the deeper coins.




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  14. 7 hours ago, Digalicious said:


    I did an air test to give me an idea of how much depth is lost when the sensitivity has to be reduced due to EMI or other factors. Although depending on the ground conditions, a SF can be used to mitigate EMI.

    I used the 6” coil, a silver dime, M3, and the default of 5 for the recovery speed.



    Interesting. Just goes to show you that increasing from sens at 23 to 26 doesn't gain you anything but noise. Even running it at 30 only gains you 1". So it's really best to know what your acceptable lowest number for sensitivity is.  On that chart 24 seems good if you can maintain it. Dropping sensitivity seems to have a greater adverse effect than raising it. 24 - 30 (6 steps up) gains you 1" -  dropping it from 24  to 18 (6 steps down) loses you 2 1/2" . Lesson is -  don't drop sensitivity too much or you lose out, and don't put too much faith in raising sensitivity - it doesn't gain you much at all. Thanks for doing the chart.

  15. 3 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

    Dunno, it was attached to something else that was metal plate:20230119_125653.thumb.jpg.1c5fe9880302e6705ef58902600a0883.jpg

    I'm thinking some kind of horse tack. That's not cloth under the fastener, obviously took a lot of force to snap it off. It's real heavy. The nail is copper, it gave the same ID as a wheat penny.

    This field is part of the large plantation I've been hunting, didn't feel like going too far from home yesterday 😀

    Maybe a saddle decoration. Still have hopes it's military. On the two headed nail, I have one (maybe more) of those. So I started to think it's just a nail with a copper washer on the other end peened over. So I scraped mine and found that it is a washer on one end. Here's some pictures. Without cleaning both ends, it looks solid, but after cleaning, one side is peened over.



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