schoolofhardNox

On 10/23/2020 at 3:59 AM, mn90403 said:

 

That is some DEEP detecting.  My 5000 on the beach never produced that many silver coins the years I used it.  What coil are you using?  I have a platty on mine now and did one hunt with it this year.

Our beaches where we get the most finds are 'wash in' beaches when they are good.  The good stuff (never good coins it seems) washes onto moving sand from where it has laid waiting for the energy to push it up.  The churning surf areas make it very difficult to water detect the staging areas.

I'm using A Detech 12.5 DD coil. Our beaches may be different from your beaches. This beach is not directly exposed, so it doesn't take direct hits. Long Island provides some indirect protection. So most of the beach remains intact unless a huge storm pulls some sand down. These coins have been there from the time they were lost, and have seen little water over the years. That is why the silver comes out bright, not black, the Buffalo nickles are dark and not corroded. Even the wheat pennies look good, but suffered the worst of it with cement like, green corrosion forming on some of them. If they were coins that were pulled out to sea and redeposited, over and over again, they would look very different. Not all beaches here produce silver coins, but 2 in particular have been very good to me.

Has potential.  Flat buttons bring you right into Spanish silver era as well as bust era.

3 minutes ago, Joe Beechnut OBN said:

Two hour drive is a haul.

Looks like a good few days out. No doubt your in the right area..I love looking at other AQ hunters hunts for I try and think how I would go about hunting the same spot, and could I do anything different. I have a few spots I think would be the same as your targets found. I've yet to get up enough nerve to venture to them yet. But winter tides are coming so It will be interesting if I can get up the confidence to take the AQ....Thanks for sharing! 

Working on your battery and several others. Finally making some progress since things settled down some. I would expect to have all done by the end of the month. Thanks for being patient. 

 

Thanks for making the batteries in the first place. Everyone appreciates it. It will be nice to get to use the AQ without a battery swap. It makes things a lot easier and actually changes how I would hunt. The area I hunted is a mix of medium size rocks that gets exposed from time to time. It has little, visible sand. All faint readings that I dug turned out to be small targets like brass beads from fishing gear, but I will try all metal and really hone in on those threshold changes next time out there. Those targets labeled section 2 were found in fast progression. It's mostly silent and then bang! targets are not plentiful in those rocks. It will make a nice area to repeat visit and try different settings as these rocks remain fairly constant and do not shift much, if at all.

In the old days White's used to call that piece a clevis. Not sure what Minelab calls it.

Great detecting skills. You learned the Minelab well, limiting your junk to a minimum.

18 hours ago, ALEXANDRE TARTAR said:

Indeed on beach 2, you should not be far from the gold rings!

Personally I will have switched directly to All metal and made the sorting by ear after finding this lead

Thanks Alexandre. Next time out there I will use all metal. I had a very limited time there and wanted to cover as much area as  possible. The beaches around here close at sundown and it's a 2 hour drive home. 

3 hours ago, mn90403 said:

School

I think you are supposed to go get wet with that coil and not be afraid of the water!  You will have to take some wading gear with you next time and 'expand' your beach.

What did the tent spikes sound like?  haha

Mitchel

Mitchel, As soon as I can afford one of those titanium /carbon fiber $650.00 scoops I will  😄 I'm not getting any younger and hauling around a tank of an aluminum scoop is not my idea of detecting. Would love to do some ponds though! Them tent stakes sounded like a buried cannon at 2" 😧 Kind of like bottle caps do too.

I had a chance to hit a beach for about 6 hours, so I loaded up and headed out. Not a very low tide, so I decided to try and run the Fisher Impulse AQ in all metal mode and see what turned up. I started with what little wet sand I had, and then went dry sand to purge the beach of trash. I wanted to see how the machine would handle a 7us delay, all metal, ATS at 0, sensitivity from 4-7, threshold barely heard, and noise cancelled best at 7 or 7.5 position. Disc was set to 4 when I checked some targets in tone and mute modes. I was not expecting any gold since this area is still sanded in heavily. I did manage to get some copper pennies and degraded coins that were brought back in at some point. Always a good sign to see coins degraded that much since they have been around a long time. No lead was found, so that tells you a bit about the condition of the beach. Decent amount of coins, a really corroded silver chain (I am assuming). I did not have my test kit handy, so I sanded a bit if the chain to reveal a silver color. Not aluminum, probably not nickel or zinc, not steel, so silver is my best guess. Can any of you AQ guys and girls tell me what settings you would think get the deepest all metal depth on dry sand and on wet sand? Hoping I had picked the right combination of settings for that type of hunting. This week there are some better tides coming, so I am planning on 2 days out to see what I can get.

Generally iron buttons are late 1800's to present, but iron was always available and was probably used earlier as well. Most Civil War era and earlier civilian buttons were brass, pewter or tombac. Undergarment and buttons to jeans were generally brass or iron. I'm not sure how many posts you need before you can link a video. Others that have done so can tell you better on that issue.

Looks like iron. Try a magnet to it, I bet it sticks. As for the eagle, I'm not sure. Usually corrosion can take the shape of many things.  You said it has a shank?? It almost looks like a 4 hole undergarment button. It would be better if you tooth picked as much as you could to see if there are any details on it. Pewter usually is gray with the edges de-laminating, if not found in good dirt.

Nice looking ring! Love the way the nickels held up, especially the "V".

Learned some pinpointing tricks from this video. Tried to use auto translate but I got some very weird translations 😄 Would love to have the part translated where the lead is discriminated out but not the gold and aluminum.  I'm getting a better understanding of where to hunt on my particular list of beaches.  Thanks for the video Alexandre.

Did any of those pieces give a double beep? I would think the long pieces should do that from a certain direction. Maybe circle the target from different angles before you dig? Just a thought.

That is a lot of stuff. Now we know where some of the money went to. Some of those machines do not look like they were cheap to buy.

Nice job. You are really in tune with the AQ and also where to hunt successfully with it. Water hunting at the beach, and I'm assuming, fresh water lakes will do well with it. I'm surprised you have any time to even make batteries with all those lost rings screaming at you to come get them 😄 Let me know when I get close to my turn for one of your batteries.

Great looking class ring.  It's funny about the silver not hitting well. The only silver I found was a small ring.  I decided to dig a decent sounding null (I was curious) and it ended up being that ring. I was in mute mode and just wondered what the null was. Glad you may be getting out more in the coming days. All of us are chompin' at the bit to get some of that winter beach erosion. Hope the areas you hunt will stir and rip up the bottom sand for you.

Glad you hit gold!! Nice silver finds too. When the beaches are stingy you have to go all metal or you will fall asleep waiting for the next target. 😄

Nice hunt in tough conditions. Are any of the 2 Indians early dates? Nice that you found a musket ball too. I bet that lead sounded loud

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It may not tell us a lot about the new GPX, but it does tell us that they do make a ton of money, spend a ton on research and indirectly makes me think that if others don't follow Minelab's lead in investing in technology, that they may go the way of White's and Tesoro.  New detector companies may emerge but will they survive??? I only hope the new GPX does not limit the control of the individual to adjust settings. The reason I love the GPX 5000 is that I can control how I set it. If you limit the adjustability of a machine, you limit the ability to create some really deep programs.

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One last comment; I am extremely happy with the detector and this very unusual way the detector ended up getting released. It is amazing that we are able to interact with the inventor and his design team, and the chief engineer for the whole company. This just doesn't happen in the real world and we are very lucky to be in this situation. I appreciate it very much. Thanks Rick, Alexandre, Willy, Le Jag and Geotech Carl.

 

 

Cheers,

Tim

Agree 100%. It's not often, well actually NEVER 😉that you get that much involvement in a new product. On the flip side it must be a roller coaster for them to read comments that may go from "I absolutely love this machine" to "Your machine is a piece of junk" I feel for them, and trying to please everyone is never going to happen. It will be interesting to see how the next generation of the Impulse ends up.

Two nice rings that look fairly old. You can tell they were not recently dropped! Beauties! The AQ seemed to run very smooth on your video. Looks like you have this machine dialed in for your type of hunting extremely well. I think it will be in your detecting arsenal for a long time to come 😄

12 hours ago, mn90403 said:

Well done School!  Dig it all and good things are the result.  How close to the wet sand do you go with the GPX?

I usually stay away from the wet sand mostly because it does so good in the dry areas, depth wise. In the wet sand It seems to get less depth (maybe just imagined 😄) with my settings. Kind of just the opposite of what I'm finding with the Fisher AQ which seems to be excellent in the wet sand for depth, but less so in the dry.