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It is pulling targets as deep as my CTX did. Plus it takes some homework and fieldwork to set it up right for your conditions. I chuckle when I see people crank up the sensitivity and complain they arent getting targets deeper than 6". Well 25 sensitivity might be like turning your high beams in the fog and result in getting blinded by shallow garbage. My third minelab 6 previous seasons with them and they have ALWAYS had a learning curve. If this is your first minelab, congrats on your new purchase! Happy hunting and good luck!

Welcome, look forward to seeing your finds.

Field 1 is 2 tone with 0 Fe bias. I did a lot of iron chasing after deep iffy signals like I would with my ctx. The difference was that some of those iffy signals on the CTX were keepers and NONE of them have been keepers on the 800. All the keepers have sounded really good when I find them and usually I can get them at a 45 degree rotation. I bumped up my iron bias to 3 and that has helped a lot too. Edit: Try the 45 and bump up the iron bias and see if this works for you in your soil :)

I haven't tried that. As I only switched once and made note of the change in auto tracking. Can't test it out right now, but if that works I will be happy to take advantage of that capability.

I too had a similar situation, but it doesnt appear I was missing large buttons with my CTX, just small ones. 5 largies but like 30 early to mid 1800s buttons. The reason they lost so many buttons at my site is because that part of the farm is where the family built canal boats to sell in North East Ohio. So it is infested with finishing tacks and square nails. I keep my recovery speed at 4 because I am so used to going slow and low with the 3030 that it feels awkward going faster than the 1-2-3 dance tempo. Just a heads up, every time you change a mode you will have to noise cancel and ground balance again. I realized this when the auto-tracking symbol disappeared when I went from park two to field two when testing a deep signal.

Mine works up to 8 ft away without any blanking. I would recommend seeing if someone nearby has one or contact minelab. I worked on cellular base stations for 7 years and know that they dont produce enough power to cause a problem at 100m plus. Your phone is more likely to be a culprit and mine can cohabitate my hoody pocket without much issue. Simplest explanation would be issue with unit in 800 or wm. Try your stock wireless headphones to see if there is am issue with the 800 as i imagine the same rx/tx portion for the wm and wireless headphones should be the same in the 800.

What are the other two coins?!?

Well this is my third minelab and historically on the etrac 20 was needed to hit deep coins 22 on my ctx and I would have volume gain at 10 and 8 respectively. So I was inclined to put the sensitivity up as high as it would go with no chatter. I am thinking that this machine will require more fine tuning at the start of every hunt, BUT have greater rewards!

Snapped a pic after quick date check on coins:

Ok so I went to another home site that I have been pounding for 4-5 years. I found 3 wheat at about 7-8" a button "Red Fink's Bar" circa 1912 8" and that was the extent of the keepers. What is ok about that is I usually hunt for an hour and find just 1 wheat anymore and some relics. The first hour was a headache filled signal fest, but when I got a repeatable signal I decided to try something that CDV recommended and that was to turn down the sensitivity. Reason he suggested it was to see if I could get the volume of the tone to change on a target that I would consider deep enough to dig in a park (another story line there). So I turned it down to 16 before I started to get a change in volume. Funny thing is, that the volume changed AND the signal cleaned up. This place is iron infested and it seems like by turning down the sensitivity it improved the machine's performance! The reason I think I missed these in previous hunts is due to A) iron being in the hole and B) the wheat were worn so thin the date is all but gone! My take away is that if I have been hunting here for 4 years and the deepest coin I have recovered was at 8" and the machine is hitting wheat at this depth at 16 sensitivity, why shouldn't I continue to hunt at this sensitivity? I mean so many non-iron targets really started to pop when I did this. NOW with that said it is really wet here and the chemistry of iron is funny in that it can leech into the soil creating a halo. This halo will increase and decrease in masking other targets dependent on soil moisture (if you would like a chemistry lesson on how iron behaves in anoxic conditions let me know). I will most likely bump up sensitivity in drier soil conditions, but as crazy as it sounds I think I may need to adjust sensitivity at each site and hunt to get the most out of the machine. Is it nutty to want to work with less sensitivity even if it is stable at 22-24?!?! Thanks for reading! Picture of hunts with the CTX and the keepers found for a little eye candy:

Omg it would be nice if they did that. I slay old coins in parks with my etrac and ctx using volume modulation and depth meter secondarily. I want the depth of this machine amd adjustable volume gain of ctx. Thanks for letting me know about the quarter thing.

I set mine to auto track and still said everything is 8+ :) As a previous poster said it might have to do with the size of targets that i was hitting.

Anyone else finding that it is saying everything is way deeper than it actually is? This can be a detriment to the machine in a park hunt where you are trying to avoid anything 4" or shallower.

I told a friend about it and he asked if I would do a write up on it and I said no I just wanted to share my finds with him. I thought about it and he is right I should talk abut how it worked out! So I went to my button site and man this machine is a lot more talkative than my CTX. I was getting nice solid hits among the machine gun fire of iron. These hits would turn out to be .22 shells at about a 7 and the lead at about a 10. After about my 3rd 10 I was hesitant to dig it, but I wanted to see what it was. It was the smallest button I have ever found sitting 4" deep. Then I finally after about 2 hours get a nice mid-high tone at 22-24 and I decided to play with different modes while the target was en-situ. Field 2 Fe bias 2 sensitivity 24 (yes very stable) auto ground balance multi. The target was stable and loud but there was a bunch of funky sounds on the edges and front to back due to the bed of iron in this place. Then I switch to park 2 and sounds damn near the same, a little more mechanical. Finally in beach 1. This was interesting, it sounded far and away the nicest in this mode! I chose to end the hunt here as I needed to go soon anyways and felt like it should be on a good note as it was a dime sized button about 6" deep! I plan on coming back here when it drys out. I have a strong feeling that the iron halos would be muted a bit when it gets bone dry in the mid-summer. That is when I would find deep stuff with the CTX and the 17" coil, it would stand to reason that the same would be true with this.

Yes android.

I cleaned it as much as I am willing to and it doesnt look like a DD.

I think i may pull the trigger on tect o trak. It is showing for 3.49 in app store atm. Thank you all for your input.

Way cool!

Sometimes something beautiful comes up. This did with my ctx in a park at 8" this past Monday. Thanks fpr the writeup Steve :)

There are several ways to restore coins since there are many different alloys they are made of. Join this groups: https://www.facebook.com/groups/356723144661356/ Post a picture of the coin and people will give you ways to restore that particular coin.

Awesome keepers! I too had a hard time trusting my machine at the start chasing deep iffy signals to only find iron. Trust the machine m8 and you will save your back!

A little background on the site: I had been driving by this old house for years and saw someone working in the garden one day and it turned out that he was the great grandson of the person who built the homestead in 1840 and he himself had been born there in the 1940s. He gave me a wonderful first hand history of the farm and told me of the journals that his grandfather kept and that he still owned. Turned out that they used to build longboats for the canals on the farm. A friend and I had hunted the site several times without much success until we found "the hotspot". He had a T2 and I had an Etrac, and we just started finding all kinds of buttons. Over the last 4 years of I have been using the CTX to track the progress I have made at the site of any button or coin I have found there. I am going to go to this site first with the 800 because it takes hours to find anything non-ferrous here anymore. Some 30+ buttons, 6 largies, a flying eagle, and a union army navy 1864 token have come out of here between my friend and I. We feel confident that we are missing some small silver and from all the videos I am seeing, it seems like people are doing amazing in places they have pounded with other machines. For all these reasons, that is why I want to hunt here first. I do have a question for you all though: I really like tracking progress with the CTX, does anyone know of something comparable on my phone that I could use? Is it trust worthy (wont share geo location meta-data)? Thanks for your time! Here is a picture of my progress at the site with just the CTX

Was a good show Steve.

That is more fuel for the conspiracy... At any rate, between being a stay at home dad, full time college student, part time EH&S stormwater compliance inspector at my university, and poor weather, I can wait for my friendly local dealer to get them in! Hopefully before summer break though.

The app the podcast uses, called spreaker, allows you to download individual episodes by pressing the three dots to the right of the episode name and time. Good luck and enjoy!