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I have seen several comment about the somewhat dim LEDs on the headphone making it hard to determine when they are turned off. I also initially had that problem and got home to find mine still on when I got out of the sun. My procedure now is to leave the controller on while turning the headphones off. When turning off is successful the headphone symbol disappears from the screen and sound is heard from the controller handle. Seems much surer than trusting my old eyes to determine the status on the LEDs.

Steve thanks for the reply. That is what I had thought I had observed. I started a hunt and did a NC and GB for P1, P2 F1 and F2 at the start so I would not forget to later when experimenting with different modes. Of course repeating GB at times may be prudent if not Tracking.

Steve I understand what you are saying as far as GB not being global. The question is once you have started for the day and have in fact set the GB individually (local) for several modes are they saved for that session until the machine is turned off? So when for instance if I have already set GB on P1 and then switched to P2 and set GB for P2, does returning to P1 require me to do another GB or will it not continue with the setting I had just previously entered? At least with tracking the symbol stays when switching modes that have already been set to tracking.

What sensitivity range have you found to be helping you with depth in your Ohio soil?

Got mine yesterday also; thanks. Let us help with at least the postage! Set up a Paypal account if you don't have one.

Can't one just Noise Cancel and GB each of the modes one will use before starting a hunt or do you have to do it again EACH time you switch a mode? Doing it all at once at the start seemed to work for me the other day but I may have missed something.

While the hipstick was a great help to my sore/old shoulders with the CTX; I do not like being attached to the detector. After using a Deus for 4 years it would be hard to take that big a step back in being attached to an overweight machine. ML could have charged me a little more for a better ergonomics.

There as been the occasional mention that someone hoped a future upgrade would change something in how the machine worked. How would one be able to connect the NOX to a computer to change the firmware? Not that Minelab has a great history of firmware upgrades.

I just got mine and did the same as Norm, shortened it up. With the shaft now in this more upright position no reasonable amount of weight is going to change the balance point. In this position all added weight is going to do is add WEIGHT. With your hand lightly holding the handle push (with no arm strap on) push the top of the shaft away from the bottom of your forearm. Note how much pressure you have to exert (think weight) to make any meaningful difference in the perceived nose heaviness of the coil. Then ask yourself do you really want to add that much weight to a light detector? I heated and reformed the arm cuff for a tighter fit. I used it today for two hours without the strap and had no control issues and did not notice any of the rotational torquing others have commented on. The shorter more upright stance does reduce the swing radius and may not suit everyone; particularly as mentioned above for water hunters. But those that need or want to keep weight and stress to a minimum might want to try it. Remember no matter how you set it up to keep your grip as light as possible. A death grip on the handle will wear you out sooner no matter what configuration you decide on.

What time of day is it effective? Considering the angle of the screen in relationship to the sky it doesn't seem that a visor that small would offer much shading especially since one is moving in random directions?

It could be that very low volume dealers after getting an initial shipment of a few don't get as high a priority in the ML distribution pipeline as the high volume dealers. ML might feel that the high volume dealers backlog needs to be addressed before restocking the little guys. Five months does sound extreme.

I should have an 800 in my hands on Monday. But that does not mean my Deus is going anywhere soon. I have really enjoyed using it over the last four years and hope to be able to say the same about the NOX in another 4. I don't hunt for profit, just for relaxation and fun. The cost per hour has been very low compared to many other hobby activities. It is nice to have at least two machines for a number of reasons, loaner or repair being two. The Deus has required no service or modification in those 4 years, I doubt that I will say that about the NOX in 4. TNSSs observation on the Deus were always enlightening and his observations on using the NOX influenced my decision to get one now rather than later - if at all. I expect to enjoy the NOX having previously run both a 705 and CTX. It will be interesting and instructive being able to run them both on selected sites and targets.

In your opinion is this signal weakness a result of the 2.4GHZ band or the transmitting power or the head unit? With a Deus I wear the module in a pouch on the back of my molle belt with my body, belts and metal buckles in the way without drop outs. Do you see another solution other than wearing it on the front within two feet of the transmitter?

Steve, Thanks for the welcome. I have enjoyed you insights and commentary for several years. The early reports suggest that ML has a true winner. With some tweaks over time it should only get better and push everyone else to up their game to the benefit of all of us. HH, Greg

1) No I never designed a detector. I have been in manufacturing, design and molding for over 40 years. When there are multiple comments on balance and the desire for a different shaft configuration it does seem there is a valid concern. 2) Honestly these old injured shoulder appreciate light weight. I swung a 3030 for over a year; had all three coils and was very happy to find a lighter machine that did not cause my shoulder to ache for days after a 3 hour hunt. 3) First time posting here. After owning a 705 and a 3030 and I am not an ML troll. I enjoyed both of them (except for the weight of the 3030 I would still have it) and still consider the 705 a very capable and under appreciated machine. Yes, I am interested in learning more about all the new capable detectors coming out. And like many prospective buyers, the allure of a new toy pulls when there may really be no need for one.. Understanding strengths and weaknesses of each is important as there is no perfect be all do all machine. The Deus I have had for 4 years has required no modifications. And I don't remember many complaints on weight, balance, or the desire for a different shaft. So there are designs that seem to work right out of the box. I didn't mean to ruffle the feathers of the Fan Club.

Just seems wrong to have to add weight to a light weight detector to make up for poor ergonomics as supplied!