Dances With Doves

That is why I did not use the Gmx much in the water this year.I want target id in most areas.The one small clean beach where  I could use it was a no go because of covid. You have to pick your spots with this machine.In the tot lots with wood chips I love the  Gmx because of easy digging. 

I think  they should welcome Whites   customers by giving them  a  favorite find section  from the day they  bought the name.Good PR.

With all the money Minelab made in  Africa it seems they should give this machine a good look since it is a very good machine for gold.I would like to see them bring out some epoxy filled  coils too in a lot of different sizes. A  9 by 12  concentric first  for water hunters or 8 by 11 dd .

It seems you have tough areas  to hunt. I used the gold modes on the nox on the sand bars and got a small stainless  engagement ring at a foot that would id at a 1 in air test.If  I used the disk modes it would have  given me a iron  sound.I also got 2 small gold with that mode.You have to pick your spots when to use it. I used park 2 in the shallow gravel spots with much iron in them and picked up many small gold rings. I did not use the gmx much in the water because it does not have id intelligence like the nox  does. I never got to use it on the sand bar that  I hunt since i was doing good with the nox.In the tot lots  i like it more then the nox .It is a machine where you have to pick your spots.By the way  I hit a 102 silver coins for the  year  today all from pounded spots with a  lot of silver jewelry too and mostly in the turf.The nox is one heck of a machine.

When I hunted a lake thinking I was in f2 but was in fe I dug over 50 caps even in fe-9.I  corrected my mistake after by putting it in f2 -7 and the caps sounded bad an I could tell they were     caps to a high  degree.I  don't use the fe setting   anymore.I hope  they come up with a new FI setting that would rival the Deus in very thick  iron.We would have fe,f2,and  fi for iron bias.

From 2000 to 2014 it was the   Minelab Explorer.This   machine was way   ahead of it's time and was a silver slayer. I hit the control box with my shovel and started to use my Minelab X-terra 70 for coins and with the 10" 7.5kz. coil I did very well on coins but you needed to know what the machine was telling you more then the explorer for coins to get the tougher coins ,At that freq. it hit Indians very well in tougher spots.I even kept up with my Explorer 2 buddy and he is a  pro with that machine.I never tried a mars 3kz   DD coil and I  wish I did.I had a  loose  wired nel tornado coil at 7.5 kz. for 2 weeks and it got me one of the deepest wheat penny I ever dug. The minelab coil  broke it's ears so now I use the Nox and this machine does most everything well and for coin hunting it is at the top of the food chain.If you were to drive around the country and could only bring 1 machine to hunt this would be my choice.

 Salt water changes everything. I buried a 1.1 gram very small 14k white gold ring at 10 inches in my yard and beach 2 could not hit  it.In pk2 it hit it very good in multi with pretty good id.In gold 2  mode using both multi and 40kz. it hit this ring like a pit bull on a meatball. 

Well if you hunt  a salt beach with this machine it will easily give you a 1 hitter.( Hit on   1 gold target that costs more then this machine at retail jewelry prices).The Vanquish will do that too.  It will be very  easy to pay for this machine with the price of gold at  it's  current level.

1 hour ago, Compass said:

Thanks DWD, I'll have to do some bench testing in "Park 2". As long as I can hit gold chains at a few inches that may work for me.

 Try F2-7 iron  bias in park 1 and 2 on those caps and see how they sound.Pk2 should hit most chains  nicely at a few inches. This  is for sweet  water hunting.I never hunted in the salt.

 As long as you   came home with gold  at the end of the day. Great day in my book  .I  did  bury a  very small   1.1 gram white gold ring  at 10'' and park1 and the beach modes  would not hit  it.Park 2 in multi  hit it good with nice id.The gold modes slammed it,but  some times you like the smoothness of the other modes.Keep in mind that pk2 and 20 and 40kz can be better in nails on small gold rings too.

Hi Clive.I have one of your  pulse books and I love it. I was in a shore rip current in Lake  Ontario that was moving about 2' per second in about 2 'of water.  I am wondering how will moving fresh water effect your AQ compared to a  Nox.I imagine you also have some spots where the black sand is nasty because of current  movement.   How does your AQ handle that?

I don't want a machine that has me lost in a sea of noise.It is like hearing a language you don't  understand.You need to understand your machine  to a good degree  to have success.

Hi  Steve ,is  the target Id on the racer better then gmx?My gmx seems to up average a lot of targets  even if they have a little depth to them. The iron id masks a lot of targets if  I knock   out  nails. I go by how the zip sounds and look at what the numbers are doing to decide on what to dig.It also depends on where I am.I love it in the tot lots.

3 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

So basically we have an Ace with a salt beach mode. So I wonder, Ace Apex with 6” x 11” coil at $424 versus Vanquish 440 with 7” x 10” coil at $279...... is there anything at all an Apex can do better than the 440 for $145 extra?

 It can get you a pin pointer  from Garrett if you make a nice find with it.

 I would  not    be surprised if Minelab added single frequencies to the Vanquish.Now would be a good time to do it.

Hi  Jeff, I know  what you are talking about since I hunted a  iron filled  ghost pier with my  At gold.It would really annoy you after a while forcing you to hunt the quiet  areas away from the iron.I think Geotech said that the At gold was a very fast machine, much faster then the AT pro.

I will save my money for the next  Nox upgrade since it  probably will be a grand  or more. At least you can turn down the iron volume, but I still   prefer the soft sounds of the nox       on   iron targets. I would like to see it go against the Vanquish with  it's 7by 10 coil.

I tried that  one time and no gold. I think I will try at a spot where the clay is not to deep to see if it settles there since this area has  glacier gold and a river that starts in   Gold ,Pennsylvania   empties near here in Lake Ontario.(Genesee, river)

Thanks ,I will try the4by 6 inch dd if I get the chance since  my friend  reported even more  of the beach was eroded by heavy  winds.I might even try the nox with 6''dd in gold modes.

2 hours ago, havingstl said:

What sensitivity are you running?

6-7 and  very thick black sand in freshwater lake shoreline.My friend got a small gold  ring just under the surface with the Simplex in this area.

 When I use my Gmx with the 6' concentric  coil in a beach section with a high  concentration of black sand it is overloading all the time and I have to raise coil about an inch   to have it go away.I then go  for the nice zip sound and I usually get a coin because all the light stuff has been swept away. This 48kz  machine is very  hot with this coil.Would a bigger  DD coil stop this overloading?

 All good info guys. The big question for me  is how much better are the Deus  type machines for    hunting turf  gold    rings by the information you get on the sound of the   tones.It would be fun cherry  picking for gold rings when you are not in the mood to dig that many targets.It  would be like hunting for silver  coins.

Hi  OBN, What       is your gold to nickel ratio in the bay ?If I get about 7 nickels   I  usually get a piece of gold. The other day when I got the little white gold ring I got no nickels.I went yesterday for a short hunt and found 3 nickels but no gold . This ratio is in the big lake at a 1  mile beach that I usually hunt at.

If you hunt the wet salt the vanquish is a machine that will pay for itself in no time  . 

Well done on  that great honker.You go big and  I go low.  I just came back  from hunting   near clay with a lot of iron and snuck out a small 1.1 gram white gold ring with tiny diamond which gave me a 3 tid on the  Nox in  PK.1. At least it was 14K.I am on a small gold streak.