Dances With Doves

4 hours ago, schoolofhardNox said:

I'm having similar results on my second hunt. At least you hit cobble. My beach is so sanded in, all that remains is more shallow targets(under 12") and  a lot of open space and smooth threshold. If your hitting cobble you should hit gold if it's there. Pull tabs sound nice when they are deep  I don't know your beach conditions, but sooner or later some sand should move and the targets will light up. Looking forward to your next hunt.

That is why I like water hunting big water  areas. The     weather keeps shuffling the deck.You can have certain conditions where    most of the targets are heavy and good ,and other times where all targets in reach is just light items.It is when everything  turns out in your favor that it is a time  you won't forget.I dug 5 gold in less then 3 hours one  time and only moved 50' in 3to 5 feet of water   .Being  in the Right place at the right time.

1 hour ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

Not as much mineralized soils in the areas I like to use the NOX, as the original material was already mined and many times the dirt is washed away.  This particular area has more dirt than some of my normal sites, but since it is not in its natural state, the mineral content is not concentrated and or as dense.  I would say light to almost medium.  Now there are sites there on the hillsides they did not channel water, so those are virgin ground and there the ground conditions becomes worse.

 Those  are  great finds, but all those    specimens  take          up a lot of room.Where do you store them, Fort Gerry?

I  tried the Nox in park1sens.20    iron bias at f2-7, ground balance at4 and it slammed it to with  the 11'' coil with at least 5inches to spare with solid numbers of mostly 4 with some 3 and  5 numbers mixed in.You can coin hunt with this machine and get this chain no problem with good id numbers at depth.

I tested a heavy type chain like the one Againstmywill  showed in the  jewelry(maybe a little thicker)  section called( chain numbers).I tested the Gmx and it just slammed it  with a solid 96 number which I think is a upaverage since nox gives it a 4 when I lay it on the ground. I could raise coil over 5"and still get it.Maybe we should not pass penny hits with this machine.I used 6' coil on this test which is buried in dry dirt.

Being out west you have a better chance at getting a silver  dollar than in the east. I did get one about 20 years ago in the same small park that they tore down the Fredrick  Douglass  statue. The statue was not there  when I found  just after it got    dark outside.It was a 1892-o.I  know someone who found a  trade dollar too.

I have been playing around with the nox and gmx in  moderate ground and the nox keeps up with it but gives much better id than it for  small targets.  The nox  can do so much more then the Gmx.I can put on the 6'' coil and hunt a tot lot with the best of them. Walk 50 yards change coils,then walk 60 yards and  I am in the lake water hunting a  swim area  in the gold modes for small  gold and any big  targets that get in the way.I then go out to the 500 foot area in  front of this roped  area, put it in    park 1 f2-7 and I can get rid of most bottle caps and hunt    rings. I then can  put it in park 2 and have a better chance to get gold chains and smaller gold.I then can go about 400 yards to my   ghost  pier and hunt for silver coins in Park 1 f2-0 in the  big nails.What a machine.The Gmx is a great tot-lot machine and fun too.I am glad I have both  .THE last time water hunting me and my friend got 13 silver coins at the ghost   pier and it was the first time he water hunted with the nox .He also got a gold ring that was deep.By the way we have pounded  this silver spot.

23 minutes ago, phrunt said:

Carl's test targets have arrived.  On initial testing the #9 on the ice cream stick is harder to hit than my old crusty #9 I'd found with my VLF.

It still requires touching the coil but the signal is softer, far softer.  The other sizes on the sticks are no issue.

I will do proper testing when it's not snowing as I'd like to do it outside of my house away from EMI sources so there is no chance of interference.   I will also try various coils.

My previous #9 looks about the same size if not smaller but it's gone rusty brown colour.

He might have  gave you shot with a higher antimony %.Your found load is oxidized so it may hit better.I have not tried my     new#9  shot but a old shell I found that  is oxidized too in #9.

I tried the nox with 6'' coil on  this target and emi would effect the target at certain times. I could crank the sens. at 24 in  park2 1tone and get a small tight sound with mixed  id when emi let me.40kz at  25 sens.was weaker with  mixed id.20kz was very weak. In gold 2 I could get multi to give me a nice signal when emi let me with mixed id at 25 sens.when I used 25 sens I got a weaker signal and mixed id at 40 kz.20kz again was weak in gold mode.If anyone can find this type  earring in the wild they should get a  parade in my book.

I tested this just smaller then half inch earring that has a post about the  size of a staple and a  tiny mount for the small stone first with GMX and 6''  coil and it would hit it with a small sound in all angles       .The     Emi would effect this target at  certain times and you would notice it   with          the broken signals sometime then a much stronger hit after where I could  lift the coil and still  get it good.Tough targets on the  edge of detecting depth are very fragile when it comes to a  signal in high EMI areas.

I have that book  the Pulse  Power and he knows  what he is taking   about.You   can't  argue  with   results.I am glad he is on the other side of Lake  Ontario.

You  are  getting robbed for  sure with all he gold hits you dug with no  gold.My   friend  tried his nox in the  water      for the first time and  got  a nice gold ring early on in a 9  hour hunt.The last 3 times at this lake I could not get   gold but got plenty of pull tabs.  I was walking in   to   finish the day in a spot where we   never find gold and out popped a 4.2 gram wed -lok 14k gold band.The area we hunt is big and we were leaving an    old amusement park torn down pier area before I got the gold.I did     get 8 silver dimes in this good spot,plus a v and  buffalo nickel and about 15       Wheaties. I got a walker and    a other silver  dime  where my  friend got  gold.He got 5 silver dimes at  the     ghost pier spot. You are due  for gold.

31 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Bottle caps and wire items, literally wire, and bobby pins, many are just going to sound good and have to get dug. I avoid the wire type stuff by digging deeper targets. Bottle caps some give me a little ferrous edge. Many don’t. I’m still hunting exclusively in tones as I am not lacking for targets and need to weed them out.

I am definitely going to hunt silver in a park with this thing. Coins in tones.... nice low tone, mellow, round signals.

Have you tried a PI yet for silver in your new home town?                                                         

My first  turf  gold  and using my explorer was a 24k  Buddah digging a deeper indian/zinc type  hit.

So much better looking then  the ones  I  pull  from the water  of the  Finger Lakes.

11 hours ago, Joe Beechnut OBN said:

Love the combo of diamonds and yellow gold! Very nice! 

I may dig five Zincons a year here, most places i hunt closed before they were made..very rare.

It must be nice to have more gold then  zincons.I get at least 5 every time I hunt.

1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

High frequency raw normalized expands the small target/low conductor range and compresses the high end. So normalized for high conductors (coins) and up-normalized for low conductors/small targets.

Normal coins are  compressed on my GMX.

I put the  6" coil on the nox  and used park 2 mode sens .22 in multi  freq. first  and tried   all  modes in park 2 in  2 tone.  multi gave me mostly weak iron  tones and gave me them in  most angles. In 20kz. I got very weak  iron hits in 24 sens..In 40kz. I got  stronger iron and some  none iron hits and seemed less coil  speed demand to get a good signal at max sens. I Got a hit in most angles.In gold 2 mode in multi freq. with sens .21 I got not  that  bad a signal that seemed better with faster swing speed with mixed id.In 20kz it was a weaker but smooth signal with worse id at 24 sens. At  max sens. in 40 kz. I got a very nice signal with mixed id that was tighter and less sensitive to  swing speed.I would use 40kz. in gold mode for this target for my first choice.You could put all the park 2 modes in 1 tone to get a smoother signal and  decide what to dig .

1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

A machine I really wanted from Whites... DFX running at 48 kHz able to use GMT coils. The ability to run at a separate lower frequency would be nice, but not really needed. What I wanted was the full range SignaGraph tied to 48 kHz operation, with both raw and normalized VDI options. The SignaGraph is a true visual display breakthrough that went underutilized by White’s. I prefer it to the Minelab versions in some ways and having a nugget detector with all the tuning and discrimination options of the DFX would have been something, especially if paired up with MXT ground balancing. The V3i at 22 kHz is close though, so I’ll have to be happy with that.

when do you like raw and when do you like normalized vdi options.?

That is awesome.If  those coins  could  talk.Have you ever found  a US flowing  hair coin .Those  before1802.They seem harder to get then a gold coin.My friend found one in a lake in upstate NY.

9 minutes ago, 2Valen said:

That is strange, last year I was in field 2 setting and factory settings all the way around and came across a similar earring about 3 inches down. The signal was week but sounded in both directions around 10-12 VDI.

Was park 2 the only setting you used and after GB and Noise what were your settings?

I tried the gold modes and this earring is smaller then most.In park 2 in multi I had sens.  at 20 with recovery at 4 with f2 0 bias.20 and 40 kz. sens. was near max . The gold modes were about the same settings.I  think the nearby junk hinders me  from getting a distinguished signal on this target.That is  why small coils have their place.None of my gold earrings will give a id at 10-12.

Nice hunt .One day you may  bump into a gold coin in spots like those.I don't think to many people  can claim a gold coin and  a nugget in the same day.

18 minutes ago, mn90403 said:

Were we going to see a picture of the earring?

It is buried  and  one that I found in tot lot .It is only a half inch long with small about 4mm stone.

I tried the Nox with 11" coil on this tough  target that  has 2 pieces  of junk  about 12 inches on  both sides and in all the park 2 modes and all the gold 2 modes it was a no go.I wonder if the junk is hindering with that signal.I will try 6" coil after.                                                           

I then put on  the much loved 6inch concentric coil with no cover ( GMX) on this target and got nice soft   repeatable hit with post facing me with a little room to spare. I then could turn on target and get some weaker hits on the more difficult angles.   I would say this  coil passes  on this test with a good grade for a very tough target. They are much     tougher targets then most   ring hunting situations.