Dances With Doves

In my now bone  dry ground I buried this target at  about 3inches,maybe a tad more.With the earring  lying flat on the ground and the post facing me I might get a weak signal one way but it is so  soft and not   repeatable that it would be hard to hunt this way with the GMX and 4by6 coil.It is hard also to  tell it from a false  signal.This coil with the cover on is a fail for me in this test.The earring is 10k at 2.8 grains.

When it is a    Jesuit ring which       mostly hit as a nickel.  They have no precious metal usually, but better then most gold  rings in my book..

That is a nice find.I  would find big hooks that they used when they  cut ice blocks to ship for preserving food in one lake.

26 minutes ago, Rick N. MI said:

How did the Gmx 6" concentric coil do on the earring?

It hit it good.

I tried the 4 by6 for the Gmx on this target and  I   barely got a hit that was hard to set  apart from some of the false signals I got.The real signals  finish there sound where false signals keep going and are not consistent. It would be tough to get this target with this coil. I tried a 1/10 grain nugget by putting it on the  ground and it hit it  over and inch.It seems this small coil is  more for surface targets for small gold.

38 minutes ago, Compass said:

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It is like getting a hole in one in golf  ,you won't  get paid for it but you won't  forget it.At least you get free food at the gold coin club lodge.

There is no doubt that the Nox with 6" coil is a killer combo for jewelry.Also are you hunting a roped swim area because they opened one yesterday in the  Finger Lakes where I hunt.They also opened one in Lake Ontario.

Metal detecting is  also a sport and those are tough targets to find and tough  to catch in your  scoop unless you prepare  for them. Good      job.

In your ground Steve would a f75 go deeper in true all   metal vs . Nox in the multi gold modes on a nickel in your opinion?

 I put on the 6inch coil for nox to test  my hoop earring first in pk2 multi  freq and 22  sens. and got pretty good hit at some angles with low number id plus some iron id numbers.in 20 kz. it was  weaker and  a  ugly signal with bad id.In 40 kz.  it was a better hit with not as ugly a signal. 20 kz. was 24 sens and 40kz .was 25. I would normally  dig multi and   probably 40kz.I then put it in gold 2 and multi with 23 sens and it hit very hard with 2  inches to spare with nice id  mostly and more angles that were  better.In 20kz. at sens.  of 24 it gave a nice signal with mostly iron id.In 40 kz. at 25 sens it hit very hard with mixed id and 2 inches  to spare.i liked multi best  here and this target was easier then GMX to  work because you can move nice with short  fast swings to  isolate target. Equinox  best here in my opinion in multi gold mode.With the GMX you are not as confident in the id as the Nox since it can  wrap  around more.Still the Gmx hits it very nice when you center it in the    bulls eye. 

I would like to hear your  input.

 Raw  depth in what kind  of ground? mild.

2 minutes ago, Rick N. MI said:

With the adapter I used the White's Pro Star that worked very well.

What are the ohms since whites says to use greater then 60 ohm  headphones.

2 minutes ago, Rick N. MI said:

Good test. The Gmx is hard to beat. Unfortunate White's is down. Maybe they will come back.

I have a  headphone     adapter for 1/4 inch.Whites said to  use better   headphones  for smaller  targets for GMX. I wonder what are the best headphones for GMX/24k?

I tried the xterra 6'' 18kz. dd coil on this earring   first in the prospect mode and I got a very weak soft signal with no room to spare. I then tried it in the coin mode in 1  tone and got a very weak soft signal with no room to spare and -8 negative  numbers constantly.The goldbug pro with 5inch coil would probably do about the same from what I hear. This test I               would call up in the air depending on the person.

That is also a gonegirl ring.      What a  beauty.

  I was detecting about 8 years ago when someone walking on the beach handed me a earring they just picked up on the shoreline.That was the easiest gold  I ever got. This is the test target which is  .53  grams and 3/4 inches in diameter thin  hoop yellow 10k earring that I buried a little over 4'' with open clasp which is way more difficult.I tried the GMX with a 10 sens. and boost 2 with sat in middle setting and I  got a soft signal on the target and I could lift the coil and still get it in 1  direction but in other angles it was  a little weaker.It seems you need more coil control on this machine for tough targets with the sat.This test is a pass.

I went and tested the 4gram 18k  small   18k white gold chain at 5".I tried pk2 in multi freq.    first with sens. setting  of 22 and got a   iron-non iron      hit that might make me dig. I then  did 20ks. at 24 setting and got a worse hit with  weaker sound and mostly iron id. I then tried it  at 40kz.and got stronger hit with iron and some non    iron hits which might make me dig. I went in to gold 2 mode multi freq. first at 23 sens.and got solid hit with iron-non iron hits that   would make me dig and I could raise coil about 2".I put it in 20 kz. and got nice but soft sound with iron id  at 24 setting. I then went to   40 kz.at 25 setting and got a  nice strong hit with  iron- non  iron id and   could lift coil about 3inches.Also in 40kz.  I could   turn on object   that the nearby junk caused    problems and pick out the target better then all other situations. This coil did as good as GMX with stronger sounds since GMX is soft on deep targets.

You seem like a fun guy Gerry.You do better when you have fun.I  met Chris Gholson and his father at  Stanton an  they were  good guys.It was 2002 and I picked up a 4gram nugget that was 22k plus with nice   size 14k chain for $120 at that show.

A gold stud earring is a weaker target then   the ones I tested.I don't think you could get a 5inch  buried stud earring.I  will try a small 4mm10k  yellow gold stud in future.My 10k white gold stud is only 3 mm and is very tough target.Things have to be perfect to find one of these.

For some reason I am getting a lot of change on the  dry sand beaches in this cashless  society.No  gold  or silver though.

22 minutes ago, pinpointa said:

Well i started  water detecting back in 1977  used plenty of Whites, 1000, all the way through to Whites Dual Field which i still have now, Also Eric Fosters Aquasport. & Vallon . I am very  savvy on keeping the detectors right up to scratch . I have never had one leak yet & i always test them by leaving in the bath for 48 hours and always hose them down check there is no sand. The Dual Field has a complete different o ring which does not need any silicone grease . As the other ones do.

Its really crappy that the Equinox has all these failures I would not touch one with a forty foot pole because its like playing Russian Roulet it could last out and spit the dummy just after the warranty runs out.

And i have had quite a few of there detectors over the years .But i will stick with my V3I its just so far ahead even though its 10 years old i bought mine in 2009. Its just a shame Whites is closing. 

 

My  friend  says the  worst thing you can do is put a hot machine in cold water.Splash it and dunk it in and out so it can  cool down more slowly     or you make cause it stress.

27 minutes ago, RickUK said:

That 6'' coil on the Nox is a deadly coil on small gold,my main setup items that i use when trying different settings are a small celtic gold 1/4 stater,a smallish chain with a broken clasp and a small gold earing.

These are my prime target size items that i would be after,we dont have gold nuggets,jewellery size items would be found down near a very old river ford crossing that has been used possibly going back 2000 years,during the hot summer months the local mums take the kids down and that is the small location that always provides fold rings,not other gold jewellery items as such not like a general beach just rings that have fallen off whilst in the cold water.

The highly desirable celtic gold staters and also hammered gold coins are also the main targets,the Nox with that small coil is my main machine for that,usually would run it in multi freq with slow and methodically swings of the small coil,have also been trying different sensitivity settings as well and even reducing the settings right down detuning the detector down to even 14-15 and if i am honest i think by doing this it slightly improves signal response as you are reducing the ground matrix.Of course this is just my personal opinion as most folks tend to crank up the sensitivity much higher and in some instances i find that by increasing or running hotter settings it can be counter productive.Many folks will probably disagree with me on this one but i use the settings that work best for me and my sites. 

I tried a sens. setting of 15 in pk2 and mult freq. on the 2  targets I just  tested and the chain gave a soft  hit  with   the right tone and id number.   The ring gave a soft sound with the right tone sound but with no id numbers at that sens. setting.

I tested the 6" coil on my deep white gold ring that is tiny and sub  gram  and  gives a 2  for a id number on a air test. I tried pk1 first and all I got was a soft  iron sound which is a no go unless your desperate.I then tried pk2 in multi freq. with a sens. of  22 and got a  great hit with good id.I put it in 20kz. in same mode and got a average hit with mixed  positive and neg. numbers.I then put it in  40kz. and it gave a         real good  hit with more positive numbers. all did better  or worse  depending on the  angle.I then put it in gold2 mode and multi freq.  for the first test and sens. at 23 and it slammed it with great id numbers and I could lift coil about 4'' and still get it. I put it 20kz. and it gave a great hit  with good up average numbers .I then put it in 40 kz. and it slammed it at a 25 sens.  setting.I could  lift the coil about 5'' off the ground and still get it.  I will try the toughest of these targets next which is my 18k  white gold chain.This coil has it's place.Also a id of  2 is small  for a  ring..

2 hours ago, phrunt said:

I treat my Equinox like dirt and it's had it's share of water tests, it's spend days in the bath, I even put it out in my 100 degree F spa for 2 days and 2 night held down by a brick and it survived it fine.  I've dunked it in a frozen creek too, temperature extremes are where I would expect it to fail but it hasn't.  It's spent some time at the beach being used in the water too.  I'm not concerned at all about mine in water and if it eventually drowns so be it, it's bound to happen one day but I'd never let the fear of it happening prevent me from enjoying what it's intended to be used for.  My brand new Casio G-Shock watch was waterproof to 660ft, it died a few months after getting it when I went in the Spa pool with it, the watch shop I bought it from said it was because I used it in the hot water of my spa.  It was replaced and I've since used it in the Spa for years with no issues.  You only live once, may as well enjoy it and not worry about these things that may possibly happen.

My  friend found a  Timex watch  that was in the water for a long time.It was totally covered in zebra  mussles and it still worked.He cleaned them  off and uses it when he goes water hunting now .That is a watch that took a licken and kept on ticken.