Dances With Doves

Hi   Phrunt.Rat shot would be about  82.36 pellets per gram or about .187 grains and .05  inches in  diameter.  Round pellets are much harder to hit then those flattened.If a machine can hit rat #12   shot then it is a tiny gold machine for sure. 

Nice testing.#9  shot should be 2.01mm and 585 per ounce . See if  you can get some rat shot.That would be 1.3mm and 2335  per   ounce.That would be  interesting  in your  tests. high antimony lead pellets have more per ounce.

3 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Definitely be interested in how it works in the water for you.

Will hunt shallows plus shallow sandbars  with it.They are  mineralized so I hope it will ground balance in  them.( Lake Ontario.)

I will be getting a Whites GMX in a few days that will be second hand.I hope it  does good in shallow water.If not  then it will be a turf and tot lot machine .That is 2 whites in a row  for a purchace.I got a TRX last month.  It took me 20 years to get a whites  .A  new machine always makes me try harder  when I get it.It will be fun to see what it can do.

Good  luck with the nox  Rick.I am getting a second hand Gmx  in a few days.If it does not     work in shallows it will be       a   turf and tot lot machine. I will get both coils with it.

3 hours ago, phrunt said:

yea, that's no problems.  I could test and do a video.  I don't think people use number 9 here then as I don't recall finding any much smaller than that even with my GM1000.  Great to hear there is work being carried out on the Impulse nugget hunter! Awesome.  I'm highly likely to be getting a AQ Nugget Hunter when the time comes, possibly the beach version too. 

 #9 shot would be common for close in doves or 410 shotgun   skeet shooting.4  through 8 shot sizes would be more common  then #9 shot overall.

2 hours ago, Geotech said:

0.213g is 3.3 grains, which is #4 birdshot. And that's what it looks like, too. #9 is 0.75 grains which roughly emulates a 0.5 grain gold nugget. I like to use shot because it's consistent, real nuggets are not. If possible, I'd like to send you a few shot sizes to test on the QED. I'm curious about its sensitivity. The next stop for the Impulse train is a nugget hunter and the goal is #9 shot.

That would be  impressive for a pulse.I  don't think my infinium would hit a lead bb  which  is .18 inches in diameter, and if it did it would be just  barely.

That is a good amount of  turf gold for that time frame.I  would pick certain type of targets to dig and also mix it up a little.   I would try not to burn myself out to fast when I was focused on     turf gold. Location was everything for better  results  .One year I had more turf then water gold.

1 hour ago, Steve Herschbach said:

The Garrett Infinium is the less powerful predecessor to the ATX. But at least it is in a lighter package with coils not priced to the moon. It is also one of the least reliable metal detectors I ever owned, both for coil and control box failures. I owned at least six Infiniums personally and for my pay-to-mine operation, and I don't recall even one that did not eventually fail and have to be returned to Garrett. Great little detector actually and I did very well with mine, but I'd be shy of a used one simply because of my bad luck with the reliability.

I won't hip mount it anymore   because of all the coil  problems it had when I did  in water.

1 hour ago, Againstmywill said:

It may be because of the tiger that it showed up at that number. The chain was in one clump and not spread out, so that would likely be different if it were oriented differently. After reading something on this forum about the lower numbers, 6-10, I have dug almost all the strong signals in that range. Back when I had my MXT, I was new to detecting and only dug the nice coin numbers. It is when I got the E-trac that things started to make sense and I started to find more jewelry. With the help of this forum and the Equinox, it makes the odds of finding the gold much better.

I have  only found one turf gold with nox and that was because  it sounded like a coin. I have  been focusing on silver mostly with nox in the turf. In the water is a  different matter. I Have got many gold with it.To get turf gold you have to be focused on it to get better     results.  I was more   focused with x-terra on turf gold so I did much better.

26 minutes ago, Argyris said:

Yes mate 🙂 Many stories of small cans containing gold sovereigns that were throughn from English allies' airplanes at night, to support Greeke resistance during WW2...My village in Pelloponissos has some really old history too and is my primary hunting area when in holidays or day offs (I live in Athens)...Have not found any hoard yet, but some thousand years oooold finds here are even more important than gold and taking their place in Nomismatic Museums after seeing the daylight again after so long...great history in Greece and we all try to preserve it 🙂

Regards from Greece, I too have many relatives in Canada...maybee I should visit them someday 🙂

I am on   the   NY  side of lake.My  friends  parents and sister moved back to  Greece and  also live in Athens and are  from a   village in the Pellop. too.They have many orange and   olive trees.   Hard to top the history  of Greece.Was in Athens last in 1982 to visit my Dads second cousin.

Hi Argyris.I find those  aluminum nuggets in lake Ontario.They     range in all sizes.They so sound good  .  I can   tell the small ones by sound.My parents come from Florina    area which is about as far from the sea as you can get in  Greece.My  fathers village of    Drosopagi was burnt in world war 2.Not that old  (1844-1944),but being by mount vitsi there are many gold coin  stories I heard.Cans  of gold dropped by planes in old village for  war effort.  I  heard that  German tourists came and camped by old village and when they left there was a  hole where tent was.Old soldier that buried gold and went back and got it 40 years later.

 How would you compare the beach tdi with the infinium for depth?

 Getting turf gold chains is a great accomplishment. It does  not happen to often.You have to hunt for  them with a chain mind frame to have success.

21 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Who knows? I don’t. Clearly it does not matter what the customer base wants. I’ve given up thinking about it.

Steve, take a  different approach. Tell them  to not make that coil. Then they probably will because they don't seem to listen to people with great detecting knowledge. 

6 hours ago, Jackpine said:

The Ex-terra 9" concentric is a perfect coil for fresh water work.  I used mine a LOT wading shallow water. It's the perfect form for ease of use against water resistance and plenty sensitive even at the standard mid freq.

ML you s**k. LOL

That would be a good coil for nox also.             I would     Just beef up those ears.

I would like to see a 6"concentric coil.They can use    xterra solid coil mold which also has  strong  and thick ears.

1 hour ago, Tom_in_CA said:

You are now officially a studmuffin.    Congrats on the holy-grail hole-in-one of md'ing.   Will you autograph my metal detector please ?

Hi Tom,  Have you ever got 2 in one day ?   Have you  got one as valuable as    Cal Cobra  since you have found many more then him.

 Welcome  to the $ 2.5    Indian gold coin club.It's the only one  I am in.

Those  40% halves are a tough target to find.20 years and I only found 1 and that was in water.  That is a great  find to me.The 90%  Kennedy is tough too.

7 hours ago, Sourdough Scott said:

Here is a link to a site dedicated to pull tabs.

https://pulltabarchaeology.com/archaeology/

I wish I  had a  1$ for every pull tab I dug.

I only  have the infinium for a PI machine.It has found me many rings.  I like the audio on that  machine  even though it is not  the depth demons as other Pi machines.I have not used it since july 2018 .Which is a month before I got my Nox 800, but in digging only deep    targets I found 3 gold  rings that were all nice in      size the last time I used it  .I  Dug my biggest gold with it in 100 gram 10k medallion  with chain.   I wonder how much     deeper this new machine is?

5 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Latest word is one meter, and the only coil for now is the 12”, so that knocks a few people out. It’s not a scuba machine, it’s a wading machine. There was talk of three meters and maybe someday there will be, but for now it’s a meter or three feet. The 8” coil was just a mention once that one was being prototyped for the prospecting version. No mention ever that one is promised for the AQ model. That just seems like a decent bet, but nothing more.

There unit always was a one meter unit. Then there was brief talk it might be three meters, but that never fully developed, and at last inquiry I was told one meter. If there is any doubt about that a Rick can confirm or deny.

To sum up, for now I’d consider this to be a waterproof wading detector, dive at your own risk. And 12” coil is all there is for now or possibly ever. If those conditions don’t satisfy you.... don’t be an early buyer.

Anyway, hopefully FT will announce what this detector will cost and where to buy one soon. I also want/need to know the price and availability of a spare battery. It’s not worth while for me to invest in a lot time to get someplace to only be able to hunt 4 hours. I need to get a spare battery with mine so I can get in a full day of detecting. The beaches are open here now. Hopefully I can get an AQ before the end of summer.

 

If you are  wading in 5  feet of water do you think it  would be ok?

10 minutes ago, PPP said:

They have changed the range of waterproffness from 1m to 3m i think and the shaft is a straight shaft and you dont need to buy a straight shaft from Andersson.

I hope so. A 1   meter machine is a no go for me.

1 minute ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Not exactly setting Facebook on fire with 18 comments. There is an older private Facebook group for the detector with 79 members and 11 posts in the last 30 days.

A little bit of posting going on at Dankowski forum, almost nothing anywhere else that I can find.

Your    not going to sell a ton of that type machine  for about 1500     -2000 $.To me that is for   the   advanced hunters who   know what they are doing and know why they need  that type of machine. I would like it for sanded in     spots to get deep jewelry.