NCtoad

I made another trip to the spring on the hill again this evening.  Nearly the same finds as last time.  14 headstamps and one more if that brass band is part of one.  4-16 gauge and 10-12 gauge.  One of the 12 gauge is labeled US ROMAX.  I never heard of that one before.  I also found a bigger piece of iron that looks like a cultivator blade.  Then I found another one shaped more like a shovel head.  I forgot to take a pic of it.  On the way back down the hill I got nice high tone but mixed with iron as I turned on it.  I said to myself “I bet this is a pocket knife”. And sure enough it was!  Lots of activity around the springs up there.  I say springs, plural, because there are three spring heads all within about a 100’ radius.   With all the stuff I’m finding, there has to be another coin besides the two mercs I found the other day.  

My contribution to my brothers.  This was found yesterday evening near the newly discovered spring that I found the other day.  Two more 10 gauge headstamps along with six 12 gauge and five 16 gauge.  The piece of electrical wire is confusing as there aren’t any remnants of a house or cabin and no known source of electricity on this mountain side.  

7 hours ago, Skate said:

So I finally resurrect an older windows based machine and begin the update. I updated the RC no problem and then started to update the WS6. I finally got it updated(it wouldn't see the 3 charge cord so I had to use a single) and then something weird happened. The WS6 somehow got stuck in the volume setting and no matter what I'm clicking or pushing it won't get out. Now I know I've said this thing is idiot proof but it takes one to know one so I may be the idiot here but I can't even shut it off now so I can begin the pairing process. I'm going withe the whole drain the battery thing so it's nearly 8 here and I'm hopeful sometime tomorrow it'll be empty of charge and I'll be able to plug it in and try to pair it and go hunting. 

Is there something else I'm missing here. I've held down the - button and it just turns the volume down. I hold down the settings button and it turns the volume down. The opposite is true of the two right buttons in that they each just turn the volume up. I guess I win the prize today.

 

If you have to turn off the ws6 manually, then it’s become unpaired via the update process.  If it’s paired it will turn off when you turn the remote off.  I had to manually (the process to do this is in the manual) re-pair mine after the update.  

13 hours ago, ODIE said:

ONE NICE LOCK.

HOW DEEP WAS IT?

gary

Not too deep, around 6” if I’m remembering correctly.  

I gotta give you a big HELL YEAH for this one!   A gold coin is at the top of my bucket list.  Congrats!!

5 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said:

Are you sure the spoon isn't aluminum alloy?  No question about the Walker, though.  😁  Only two halves I've found are the Cu-Ni clad (not even a 40% silver ).  Yours would make my day/week/month and maybe year.  Hope you can get back there; more awaiting....

No, it’s not aluminum.  It’s got the weight of silver and no oxidation like aluminum gets when it’s in the ground for a long time.  You’ll eventually get a silver half.  This is my fourth but it was a long time between the first and second. 

2 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

Great finds, but why torture yourself and run no disc?  Let the disc work for you to better ID and filter the iron (using the horseshoe display).  If you want to hear the iron you can still use iron volume WITH disc (except in full tones - in that case I try to run with disc between -2 and 0).

Thanks for the tips!  I was also running park mode in full tones with disc at 8 and 8-35 notched out.  It ran much quieter of course.  I need to get in the habit of checking the horseshoe meter.   I did double check some of the deep hc signals with the park program I had set up.  Some of those nails sounded pretty good in deep hc and I couldn’t resist.  Lol

What a unique find!  Congrats!

33 minutes ago, F350Platinum said:

NCToad for the win! 😀👍 Nice Walker. Remember what TID it was? Got a Truman dollar this morning that was a 95. And a massive silver shell to boot. 🎉🏆

I love those old hose sprayers, you can get them working again fairly easily.

Great hunt! Guess you're liking the D2. 🙂

Thanks Bob!   That half ran up 96-97 but it wasn’t a clear tone probably because of a roofing nail that was in with it.  
 

Btw, all the old rusty nails sounded good in deep hc.  I had my disc at -6.4 so no disc at all.  I think my reactivity was at 2.  I’ll eventually figure out the tone nuances of rusty nails!   Lol

1 hour ago, brys said:

have you noticed ,nobodys mentioned em

 

what progs have FMF and what are they ?and how do you choose which ones  on a new self proggy?

and what can they be ? and how deep can they  be ..does full metal no discrim   contain which 1s ?

curious as i have no d2   yet and yet to be convinced

You can go to the XP website and look at the deus II manual.  It will tell you all about programs and frequencies.  

4 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

Yep.  Not touching that update until that issue is fixed.  No way tone choice should be affecting visual target ID.  SMH

I like hunting in full tones anyways so I’ll give this new update a try.  If it doesn’t work out I guess I can roll back to 0.6. 

31 minutes ago, Dug said:

The audible tones responded quickly and accordingly over targets, but the VID seemingly lagged quite a bit. Example: in fast mode swinging over 3 targets (small flat button, modern quarter, and modern nickel) spaced 6” apart, the tones reacted as they should, but the VID of the first target dwelled on the screen while passing over the remaining targets.  In Sensitive FT, the tones and VID both reacted quickly and accordingly over each target. 
 

im at work currently and cannot experiment further. Disclaimer: I made these observations late last night and did not try all modes or settings.  

Here’s a video showing full tones with correct id verses the other tone options:  

I did the update. First update for me as I didn’t do the .6 big number update.  A couple of things:  if you’re new to the deus update, after the download follow the icons on the screen in order.  Don’t plug into the usb port until it tells you to!  After two tries I figured that out. Lol. 
 

The other thing is that my ws6 module somehow became unpaired and I couldn’t get it to pair back up. I finally did get it paired by doing it manually through options.  
 

I haven’t actually tried the .7 update out yet but hopefully I will tomorrow.  For now both the remote and ws6 puck say v0.7.  

Those are some great finds!   I’ve been using both sensitive and sensitive ft modes and like the way they work in polluted areas.  The only changes I make are changing program 2 to full tones also.  Program 3 with no disc is noisy, but seems to lock on to good targets.  When all those tones get to be too much I’ll just switch to program 2.  I also vary the reactivity on both programs depending on how polluted the area is that I’m detecting. 

2 minutes ago, Commonwealthdetector said:

For sure my first run 8/9" quarter and minie ball testing the signal was faint to the point I wasnt sure at all and nox banging it! Up 1 audio response is big helpful imo if your a pwm guy! Square isnt for me instantly chopped it out of everything but it may not need adjusted! Very happy with it now though, I cant really explain how I felt first swings but I had big doubt! Possibly disgusted just didnt understand the huge audio modulation,its second to none from my experience! 

      Rev war action in western nc!? I'm lucky to travel far as getting in the thick cw action! Not alot where I live exactly but Cumberland gap is 20miles so maybe one would consider that (whr i live). In my county specifically biggest unit 1500 cav, william edmundson "grumble" jones and his boys ran around a few months just not any concrete written details the few there are my county doesnt have records from then. Scouring war of the rebellion I have figured out alot in many places that you cant google maps because they dont exist.get in thoss books (google books) for free you may be surprised at how close some units may have been! If your toward tn or va then your not far from some kinda cw action I bet! 

        Dug some more today I'll get pics in this thread shortly

I don’t care for the square tones either.  Still got my nox for that!   Lol.  I really like those squeaky pwm full tones though.  Really makes a good target stand out!

Nice ring!  Congrats!

I’ll most likely be here often with shotgun headstamps and bullets!

Congrats on the silver!  I’m still looking for my first seated coin.  

Nice finds!  I’ve only found one CW era bullet.  Just wasn’t much CW activity around here in Western NC.  You’re right about those faint whispers on the d2.  Much better audio modulation than the nox.  

8 hours ago, midalake said:

The coil being offset, already makes it off weighted. Therefore, any resistance be it a solid or liquid will create MORE rotational torque. 

As a water hunter, one of my tricks in hard wave wash is to stuff the coil down to the bottom as the rush of water goes by. Thus, not catching the coil and having the water force it away from you. This is now complicated by a coil that is not center mounted. 

You’re correct in that the coil ears not being center mounted or in other words, not being mounted at the center of gravity of the coil, will put torque on the coil ears.  The friction force of water will exacerbate this torque.  However, using a centering device will only put even more torque on those cool ears whether in or out of the water.  Think of using a cheater bar on frozen nut.  Here’s a pic of a centering device made by a guy on the friendly forum.  That red piece of plastic is basically a moment arm and unless it’s attached to the coil close to where the shaft attaches to it, (and it doesn’t look like it does), it increases the stress through increased torque on the coil ears.  Think of swinging that coil with an exaggerated centering device that’s two feet long and how much stress that would put on the coil ears.  Maybe we have a mechanical engineer here on the forum who can weigh in on this and explain it better.  

If it looks like a crack, feels like a crack  and leaks like a crack, then you might have a crack!   Lol!  I wish I’d seen this thread before I saw the “oh the sky is falling” posts over on the friendly forum.  Would have saved me some time from posting why I don’t think it’s a crack.  It doesn’t even look like a crack to me.  Some of the naysayers don’t even own a deus II.  

8 hours ago, relicmeister said:

So I have the 11” Deus 2 coil and I must say I’m doing quite well with it even in dense iron and target rich areas. I only extend the lower stem 4” or 5” which keeps it fairly light and balanced. I’m wondering if the use of a coil centering device would be worth getting only for the 11” coil- I wouldn’t bother on the 9” coil which I’m anxious to receive. If anyone has one or tried one can you give me your opinion if it helps or not really worth it? The Deus 2 with 11” coil is absolutely not nose heavy, but I’d consider the centering device worthwhile  if it makes it notably more balanced.   Thanks 

Just looking at the pics of the centering devices, it looks to me like it would introduce rotational torque on the coil ears which could eventually fatigue and crack them.  Or maybe the centering device material has enough flex that it “takes up” some of that torque force.