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7 hours ago, Gary XP said:

I think it's good housekeeping to always update the headphones whenever the RC has been updated.

Also it's good to get into the habit of turning the unused RC volumes down after the update. This will significantly improve your battery life.

Thanks for the reminder about turning unused audio to zero!  I remembered to do that when I updated to 1.0, but had forgotten when I updated to 1.1. 

6 hours ago, DSMITH said:

Actually after purchasing my first X Pointer Max I liked it so much I ended up purchasing the 2023 model X Pointer Max with the Magic Holster, personally from using both the older version and the new version with the magic holster I like the new 2023 model even more, a few of the things I really like about the new 2023 model I can run the new version on boost sensitivity now with no or very little falsing, I also like that now I can leave it on and re holster it and the new version goes into stand by mode ready to pin point when you remove it from the holster, as far as the buttons they are still hard to push but now with the magic holster that is no longer an issue.

Both versions are great pin pointers but the new 2023 model is just a little better in my opinion on a couple of things like not having to fiddle with the button to turn it on and off and now it can be ran at max sensitivity other than those two things both the old version and new 2023 version are basically the same

i purchased the 2023 model from Charlene and Andy Sabisch, I can provide you with their phone number if you want to call them

 

I believe the name of their store is

https://www.treasurehuntingoutfitters.com/?fbclid=IwAR03mQol7QI3TgwIaxvRseK5dTXYaTeWreo7zASDiMkQkfLRbH-WmG09iNw  

they are in Pennsylvania now 

Thank you!   I just ordered one off their website.  $129.95 and free shipping. 

Very nice!

I’m looking for a new pinpointer to replace my 6 year old TRX (it was replaced once under warranty before Whites became defunct).  I had thought about the XP MI6, but I really like the discrimination feature of the Quest and that it detects mainly from the tip like the TRX.  I was going to order the pinpointer max, but I see now where the newest 2023 version has the magic holster that turns the pinpointer on and off when removing or replacing it in the magic holster.  However, from searching for the newest version, it looks like no one has them in stock.  Does anyone know when they’ll become available?  

For what it’s worth, I think most of us are assuming that all programs using frequency addition will be exactly the same when the max frequency is set the same in each one and all other settings are the same.  However there may be something different going on with the weighting of the lower frequencies…probably only XP knows this for sure.  I guess if one takes the time to set up , say, park and sensitive to the exact same settings and max frequency and then toggling between the two on various targets, you should be able to tell if they’re the same.  I have to admit I’m not big on setting up test gardens.  I’d much rather learn the machine by hunting with it in the wild.  

20 minutes ago, raziel900 said:

I would like to understand now that you can change the frequency on each program, 
for example the difference between prog park and deephc....
with the ability to change frequency all programs are the same! 
only the name changes...obviously except general and goldfield and relic.....
mmmm now park can become sensitive and vice versa deephc can become park by changing the frequency...
at this point they can cancel the slots and make them free for custom programs

You’re right.  Check out this post:  

Yep to Chase’s original post.  There’s a lot of redundancy with Sensitive, Sensitive FT, Park and Deep HC.  With all parameters set equally AND having the max frequency set equally, they’re the same program.  Unless I’m missing something. 
 

I realized this after loading silver slayer and then silver slayer in park and then reading Chase’s post.  Before the update, I had SS with Fast as the base and another SS with Park as the base in adjacent slots. All other settings were the same.  That way I could compare signals.  Doing this now with the same max frequency setting makes the two programs identical.  

On 5/16/2023 at 8:23 AM, Dan(NM) said:

I'm having an issue with remote and WS6 not pairing after updating both of them. Not sure what to do at this point. The remote and WS6 have paired to the coil, just not each other. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

Don’t feel bad, I did the exact same thing last night when I updated.  I’m so unfamiliar with using the ws6 puck as anything but headphones, that it took me a few tries to figure out how to turn it off!  Lol!  I got it paired on my second attempt though so everything’s good.  

13 hours ago, ☠ Cipher said:

I’m hoping they won’t start charging for future updates, particularly if periodically. My heart skipped a beat when I saw they were emphasizing that this was free. Of course it is, I thought, they’ve always been and for every manufacturer and undateable platform…unless…it won’t always be the case. I would hate to have to pay more than I already have, $1600 plus accessories, for what I anticipated from purchase would be an evolutionary platform. I think if they started charging for future updates I’d say goodbye to the platform. 

I also saw that “FREE” was emphasized and was thinking the same; that they may start charging for them in the future.  Maybe they’ll have different updates that are specific to different types of hunting and you’ll be able to pick and choose.  

CPT:  you had a Hell Yeah hunt!!

I just watched Paystreak’s latest video on the update and he really likes it.  He must be a tester for XP because he said he has many (I think he said hundreds!?) of videos using the 1.00 update.  He said he would be trickling them out over the next few months.  

13 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

I'd have to say that after investing nearly $3000 in the Deus 2, I'm still very pleased with it and all its accessories now that I own and have used nearly all of them for everything except gold prospecting, which is a small niche here in Virginia. Still waiting on word of an elliptical small coil.

The D2 is by far the top detector in my region for relic hunting, and I'm seeing an increase of use at the beaches as well. It's easily more EMI resistant than others, and a joy to use all day, a relief for the aged. You pay more for the accessories to be able to walk when you get to your 70s. Don't like the arm cuff? Get a replacement shaft from a custom builder like you would for any other detector.

Show me another company that makes a machine that comes with two detectors in the box. Show me another company whose coil can be duct taped to a walking stick or even handheld and still communicate with a waterproof remote. The D2 is the most versatile detector available. Oh, and show me another 5 year warranty while you're at it.

I've dunked that machine in salt rivers and surf, and just spray it off with a hose when i get home. After a year and a half of salt and field abuse I have yet to see a speck of rust or corrosion on it, I don't use any sort of screen protector and the screen is still fine, some tiny scratches from sand. I've only broken a couple bolts from over tightening them so far. I'd rather have a $4 bolt break than a coil ear any day.

I've taken a piece of coax and validated the claim that the WS6 remote can be used in the water up to a reasonable depth, and it's entirely possible that with enough coax it would reach the WS6 module in a water resistant bag on my arm should i want to dunk the whole shaft and coil. Haven't connected the bone conduction headphones to the WS6 yet, but that might even interest me. Heck with enough coax, you might be able to connect the coil to a submersible ROV with a camera, and sit on a paddle board! Your next problem would be digging what it finds. 😀 I've also found that the coil can be charged on the fly by connecting a light backup battery to it.

There's a wonderful old maxim:

"Don't knock it if you haven't tried it."

To me, negative speculation is irrelevant from the uninitiated or inexperienced. The D2 is well worth the investment. I notice the OP is still going strong with his. 🙂

Yes to your last sentence.  I absolutely love my D2.  So much so, in fact, that I have absolutely no desire to buy a manticore!  I’m looking forward to downloading the new update.  

Looks nice!

Pics of mine

I bought that exact same scoop a few years back for my occasional trip to the beach.  I contacted the guy that sells them and had him weld a 1” wide solid band across the back of the mesh basket thinking that the mesh would bend if I pushed on it with my foot.  He did it at no extra charge!   However that mesh is extremely stout and, for my use, I probably didn’t need that extra band.  

Two big bens in one hunt deserves a “hell yeah”!

Very nice shape!   Congrats!

3 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

What he is saying is that when he first hit the sites he thought he was hitting the hot spots and when he decided to hit the "fringes" he figured out he was hitting the fringe areas all along and what he thought were the fringe areas turned out to be the actual hot spots.  Point being, you may just not have gotten your coil over the areas you THOUGHT you had previously covered because even when we grid a place, it is hard to know whether we really got the meaty part of the coil over every square centimeter.  I think we tend to overestimate how thoroughly we have covered a given site, even postage stamp size plots, with our coils.

Also, variable ground conditions like moisture content can change your ability hear fringe targets when dry one day that turn into banging signals when moist the next  Just a lot of variables out there.

I do believe focus and attitude are big players in metal detecting.  Ever notice how your finds rate goes down during a detecting session until the area seems played out.  I think we attribute that simply to taking targets out of the ground but that doesn't explain why when we return to the site we start finding things again.  I think we truly lose concentration and fatigue sets in as the day goes on and takes us off our A-game.  Also, sometimes, snagging a great find, ups your confidence and things kind of steamroll and you have a great day at a site you previously thought was played out.  So yes, improved concentration could very well be a player in your site coming alive again.

All these things are what makes this hobby both frustrating and invigorating.  You just never know what you are going to find and should generally expect the unexpected.

 

 

 

This site is fairly small…maybe 75’x150’.   I found three of those wheats inside a 4’x4’ section that I’m positive I’ve been over before.  It did rain the night before so I’m sure that helped.  Another thing about this site is that there’s hardly any clad or copper memorials.  Also of those 8 wheats, the deepest was maybe 5”.   Most were 2”-3”.   If I had heard them on previous trips I may have passed over them because they sounded larger than a coin normally does.  That last paragraph of yours really sums it up!

3 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

Wasn't implying ilegal, and yeah, I was asking if someone might have hunted out some more stuff that brought the wheats out.  I can understand that might be misconstrued.

Whatever works! 🙂 👍 Sometimes I take an antihistamine that keeps me alert somewhat.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.  I’m nearly 100% certain that someone else  hadn’t detected there since the last time I was there.  In fact I’ve never seen another person detecting in my town.  However a few weeks back a fellow much older than me saw me detecting and came up and said he had an equinox 600 and he loved detecting.  Also judging by the number of silver coins I have dug from this spot I’d have to say it hadn’t been hit much before me.  

1 hour ago, F350Platinum said:

Gotta couple issues myself NC, Reynaud's and a pacemaker from all the fun I had when I was younger. 😏 I'm 63.

There are workarounds for just about everything, most days I can stay out all day hunting, but temps of low 30s and AFib stop me sometimes.

Can't speak for mind-altering substances, but could someone have got some stuff out the way for you? 🤔

Also sometimes I find lots of things in the fringes of my hunt areas. 👍 Then I realize I was hunting the fringe areas 🤣

Thanks for the reply Bob.  I may be misunderstanding what you mean in your third paragraph, but if you mean that I’m getting the gummies from a friend or off the black market, I’m not. I buy them at one of the many local CBD/hemp stores in my town.  They’re widely available and 100% legal. 

Hell Yeah!   What a great find!

I’m pretty sure Loren is a member here.   His detector videos are very educational as to the physics of how detectors work.  To be honest, I trust his videos more than anyone else’s.