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Welcome, IMO it's all fun, coins and relics give a nice change from jewelry hunting and vice versa.

Will Gall = Bill Gall-agher ? I thought that was kinda funny.

lol

I just realized they aren't even looking for the same gold as the episode before it. Looks like its going to be a whole season of dead ends.

That and they hold a metal detector with two hands.

That was an interesting read.

Depending on the company and the scope of the work I would consider it.

However the concept of "tester" seems to be kinda new and directly associated with unpaid peer to peer advertising rather then actual testing in the traditional sense. 

Testing is usually done behind closed doors and performance is usually tight lipped, rather then say the hoover boys and the girl with the purple hair asking for a volume control on a youtube video. It's a legitimate question, but the machines already built at that point, these people where just pawns used to cover up a slow roll out.  It's sales tactics to keep people waiting rather then buying from a competitor, they all do it now. 

Under that guise I suppose I would not be suitable as a "tester", due to lack of media following and not wanting to conflate equipment trials with advertising to begin with. I have nothing against sales and advertising per se.

If somebody wanted to give a bit of compensation in exchange for some testing that somehow requires my hours of experience, that might be alright. That brings up the question does all testing have to be done by an experienced operator? This brings us back around to Steve's point about regular users on youtube. The third generation ATPro that amounted to a sticker change, so why the roll-out at all? Free advertising. The question is moot unless you are a influencer, a job so new it doesn't even come up on the spell check here. lol

Infuencers are great for selling detectors, not making them.

At first I didn't care for it but since this post I've given it another go.

I thought it was going to be heavy on reenactment, however now they have the detectors out and least.

They seem fairly green, they just exchanged awkward looks at each other as one was dressed in brand new waders while the other was wearing half a wet suit lol.

Opps he's just got discouraged by his first can and declared he is going to discriminate those so he can only hear the gold lol. ?  (The big gold amalgam )

11 hours ago, alaskaseeker said:

Beep, dig.....

I know what you are implying, it's not that simple. You don't get these kind of results by "beep and dig". (Unless you are willing to accept and truly dig every single target, which just isn't practical for various reasons except maybe on your own property.)

I am hunting for aluminum and avoiding iron as much as possible, just like how one might look for silver. Even heavy aluminum gets classified to a degree if I can't process it all due to time or potential damage to the turf. 

The worst thing I could do for productivity is beep and dig. Decisions in the field are very fluid, settings get adjusted up a bit, then maybe down a bit, reacting to the conditions like a dampened spring. Decision to dig are made based upon conditions and the targets before it. (Or lack there of)

On equal ground, I'll take my statistical approached with good target ID over smug luck any day.

Hello

Right on, thanks.

So is the gist of the video is to kinda keep the pre-amp side of the machine for lack of a better description turned down and then boost some sort secondary amplification to restore a reasonable response from the deep target?

Seems astute and reasonable way to combat bad EMI.

There is a local fan with all matching white's gear we call the White's Supremacist. ?

I still think that if conditions permit, 5 kHz might be best for finding deep, medium to large sized silver coins. (Compared to other single frequencies and potentially deeper then multi**)

IMO if one freq is quieter then another that is a nice benefit but it wouldn't be my first choice to address noise. If you're not in multi, you have to (or at least should) pick the freq that gets the most targets you are after.

The difference between 5 kHz and say 20 kHz is significant, enough to tailor your results.

All of this is might be moot in the field compared to multi, somebody will have to see if they can hit a silver quarter deeper in the garden with 5 kHz vs Multi.

**I don't know what I'm talking about.

I just googled him and found this video, so far so good. Thnaks. Terry Shannon ~ Treasure Coast Hunter ~ Metal Detecting TIPS for the BEACH

Nice slab!

Isn't that something. I have one of these things too, lol I'll have to dig it up and see what letter it is.

If there is a specific target you are looking for, you pick the single frequency that excites the targets the best.

For example, a silver coins optimal frequency is around 850Hz for the large coins and up to around 3.6kHz for the small coins.
If all things were equal, mild soil etc the single frequency could have an edge on exciting targets a touch deeper.

Multi IQ's strength is identifying targets, deeper, whereas a single frequency might excite a target deeper.

So for maximum depth on silver coin sized objects I would choose the 5kHz single frequency. If the conditions are tough for various reasons, then switching back to multi might be deeper or just more productive because it may ID better or run smoother. 

Gold jewelry and real nickle peaks out in the 15kHz to 20kHz range I believe. So 15kHz or 20kHz frequency is probably going to be your deepest frequency for jewelry sized jewelry. Higher frequencies are more sensitive to smaller stuff, but they also start to loose depth and actually excites the jewelry sized objects less. (Just as 15kHz excites a silver dollar less then 5kHz)

For a reference, the Equinox seems to have like a 8.6kHz fundamental frequency in all the multi IQ modes for comparison. Don't quote me on this, I could be reading it wrong. I dont really know how it works. For comparison the Etrac et al. transmit somewhere around 1.6kHz which may be why they pound silver but aren't necessarily known for fine gold.

Long story short, a single freq might be deeper for a specific known target in clean ground.

23 hours ago, Dan Fox said:

If the Equinox will obsolete all single frequency detectors why does it have the option to run as a single frequency machine?

Surely this means in this mode the Equinox will obsolete itself!!

 

How can it obsolete other machines if it doesn't do what other machines can do?

I actually agree with the statement, for all intents and purposes the Equinox has obsoleted other VLF machines. I have a couple other machines I keep for nostalgia and backup simply because I like them, but if I had to buy, or recommend one VLF that would do the best job over a range of unknown conditions it would have to be the Equinox.

That's the thing, why would they compete against themselves even if it does save RnD?

A cheaper wired machine with the Deus performance would do better in a 2nd and 3rd world market IMO which is the target market. Incidentally it would make it more palatable in north America, UK and EU too.

It doesn't have to be wired mind you, I'm just going by the old assumptions that it is cheaper, nowadays a couple little IC's might actually be cheaper then 6' of good copper wire. lol

I think they are scared to venture from the path they carved with the Deus.

The Orx should of had a wired coil and been less money.

I would pay $600 Canadian for one. ($450 US dollars)

At one time 7up contained lithium citrate, the name was attributed to the extra lift given when you drank the soda and the atomic mass of lithium (7).

I enjoy a good bottle dig now and again. It's been a few years so I'll have to make a point of it this spring to find a dump.

Just now, Nuke em said:

I was hoping Diamond .

It probably is a diamond. You should have it checked. I have one of those portable units here that tests the thermal conductivity of stones.

The DM probably means that the solder has the same purity as the rest of the ring, so that when melted it will still be 22K (.916%)

It may have 8% cadium 92% gold solder while modern solders are around 60/40 gold to copper ratio which would affect purity if melted.

Good morning

Yup I'm a maple sucking Canadian.

Thanks for the heads up about the counterfeits, I'll have to watch out.