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Ah I thought it looked like some type ferrite ring or magnet, or a piece of somebody's Ace 150 lol. I didn't know you guys did that, cool.

Maybe that letter opener thing is Religious or Masonic. Check it out some more, it's really cool. It's got some age if it says Sterling instead of .925. What is the yellow thing in the green scoop?

I wouldn't by a White's for $50 less then Equinox because of the Deus lite. In reality it is really hard to find a reason to buy a White's. Think about this, even if the Sport was priced right at $350, would you swing it with the Equinox and the Deus out there? (I've used the Deus in the water for a long time, for some reason folks forget it's waterproof.) Just because it was cheap? I don't think so. $50 won't be enough of a price difference unless the consumer is completely uneducated. $350 would be a good way for White's to try and intercept a few customers, stomp all over the Ace market, do what you're good at they say, build the customer brand loyalty with the beginner, we all know how for that goes. I say this because price is really only a small aspect of performance. If overpaying for something doesn't get you depth, why buy it? If I ran White's or Garret today, I would be all over that beginner market. Consolidate the ridiculous amount of models and give them a "good" machine at a "beginner machine" price. The easiest (cost effective) way for them to react is to just get rid of that beginner lineup and slash the price of the ATPro and Sport. That is the only way Garret and White's is going to put any heat back on Minelab and remain profitable. (If they are profitable.) Garret could be in good shape from all the ATPro they sold, I can only speculate, depends on their costs. White's however must be hurting, that company must just be running on just credit or fumes by now. I doubt they will sell enough sport to pay for the injection molded tooling, let alone make a profit. Although they are a small company, so who knows. When I review what I have written and compare my strategy for Garret and White's to go after the FTP market, I realize it might be a bit naive. First Texas has branded products in box stores all over the world, well in Canada they do. A beginner is more likely to purchase from a box store if it's close then to "look for a dealer" online in most cases. I remember when White's wouldn't even advertise prices, those days of customer entitlement are long gone. I apologize if this seems like a bit of a tangent, TL DR White's should eat the Ace market with it's multi freq Sport before Garret realizes it needs to eat itself. Can't put the Genie back in the bottle now.

Thanks for the update,

I didn't realize those threads are on his site, I was looking here for them the other night. I'll have a look there tomorrow.

Sometimes we just want to discuss metal detectors, the interesting parts. Why does everyone bring up Nokta? They aren't going to do, I hate to say it but neither is White's or Fisher, just based on probability. This has been going on now for close to 30 years. Minelab has had the best discrimination technology this whole time, since 1991. Maybe some patents will expire, maybe the best chance is new tech, all the while the gears are still turning at Minelab. Tesoro will have a mulit-freq out before White's or Fisher or Nokta. It will have to be more then a label, the proof is in the finds. To be fair, it was XP Deus that obsoleted all other single freq detectors and made a nice compliment to a FBS/BBS. Now with the Equinox and it's Deus like adjust ability, it pretty much covers both roles. I can only speak for myself, but I didn't start buying Minelabs based off of marketing, I buy them based off results in the types of conditions I detect. At the time, I noticed most the best finds were being made by Explorers.

I guess you didn't read the explanation from Minelab linked a few pages back? Still speculating? 5kHz - fundamental. 10kHz - 2nd harmonic 15kHz - 3rd harmonic 20kHz - 4th harmonic 40kHz - 8th harmonic Those square waves posted by EL NINO a few pages back look like they were made with more then 2 frequencies. They are too flat on top.

Welcome. Maybe peruse the Comparison forum for detector revieiws.

Come to think of it, I've never filmed myself either. Hmm. Seriously though, it had never occurred to me to doubt Draytons finds, I just don't get that vibe. The problem is more with the fame whores on youtube, everyone is a star, I guess we've come to the point of expecting video evidence now. Most the local detectorists are on youtube and I think one of them is cheating. I don't know for sure if this particular guy is cheating, it's just a gut feeling, he throws off all kinds of odd tells. In the same way I can totally believe another detectorist finds like Garys. The problem with demanding a video, is a video can be cheated too. Spanish ships really did sink, I myself have figured out to find gold in my crap town so no doubt somebody can find Spanish treasure if they put in the time and the conditions are right. Where is he getting all this Spanish jewelry in the first place? See the emeralds in some of that stuff? That type of jewelry can be tested to verify its authenticity, it doesn't just appear out of thin air. If it was already found, its been documented. Have you noticed he doesn't just hunt in the ocean, but in the swamp on the other side of a jetty? That is the kind of thing a real detectorist figures out, the boat was blown over the jetty in a hurricane. So we can agree to disagree on this one, I'm totally fine with it. Drayton treasure.

I wouldn't call your lawyer just yet. Square waves could be made by combining sinusoidal harmonics of the desired transmit frequency. Fourier could be used on the receiving signal too, which could be capable of receiving information not transmitted. You can strike a bell with a hammer once a second (1Hz) and still make a multifrequncy recording. That 1Hz recording of a bell strike can in theory completely fill the band of an ideal microphone that has a response of 20Hz-20kHz. If my equipment is good enough, I could "EQ" (filter) out any information I don't want and just listen to frequencies of interest. You could then make educated guess as to what the bell is made of by how it sounds. A zinc penny sounds different then a copper penny when dropped on a table, electrically speaking the same thing happens, each coin has a certain frequency it wants to resonate at. You could identify copper and zinc pennies from a audio recording by just listening to the high frequency "ring" that the copper coin has that the zinc coin lacks. Filter out all the low zinc penny information out of the recording and what you have left is just noise made from the copper coin only. This device that will let you hear copper but ignore zinc. Which brings us back to the transmit side of things, the hammer. Looking at this on a scope is the same as a picture of a guy swinging a hammer. Can you look at that picture of a guy swinging a hammer at a bell and say a recording of that event doesn't have this or that frequency without even knowing what they used to record the event? Of course not. It is interesting that the Solid State stereos that the Minelab creator used to make a few years back still go for $20,000-$30,000 USD. That says a lot because as a bit of an audio snob, I wouldn't pay more then $50 for any used Solid State amplifier used for music. Seriously, don't want it. Vacuum tubes all the way, for various reasons, which mostly center around HARMONICS. While there are lots of audio"fools" out there, in order to sell more then a few amps like that, there must be something to it. It at least demonstrates his mastery and understanding of harmonics. Audio is an extremely tough market. Halcro dm10 Preamplifier + Halcro dm 88 Monoblock Amplifier

(Northeast) Consider using one of the Gold modes and dig 1-10, assuming no pendant of significant size. The gold audio is a little better at catching targets in your peripheral, the best numbers from the machine are in this mode with the horseshoe engaged. A necklace may read 1 when you set the sensitivity to 1, however it does have the potential to flicker higher numbers when running regular or hot sensitivity. Based on actual sensitivity and random target orientation you may see 4 or 5 make an appearance, even the odd double digit. I agree that a 1-2 TID is a good if you want that narrow of a range and keep the sensitivity moderate. (at or below 20) 1-4 TID might work out better if running sensitivity >20. A consequence of this is a 1 has the potential to flicker -1, not a big deal, you're looking at the average. As long as say 3 out of 4 swings is a positive 1, the odd -1 is nothing to be concerned with. This would apply to the other modes too if you want to bin the targets into narrow ranges, moderate sensitivity will give tighter numbers. Good thread

He is still using the CTX it appears.

I was reading this on my phone at work yesterday and I thought gee maybe this guy knows something about what Gary finds this season when all of a sudden I heard this big wooshing sound, turns out it was the joke flying over my head.

Weird. I was just thinking how I'm starting to hate Gold Rush and wished there was a new detector show on. I then smirked to myself while thinking that I don't even care if they swing Garrets. Careful what you wish for.

Nice little nugget there. How about Gold and Field, how do the "weighings" change these numbers, or is that done after the fact? Thanks!

One option that might be nice is the ability to switch back to a single tier pin-pointer. That way a user could select the low sensitivity, high sensitivity or use the auto sensitivity that it has now. The pinpointer as it is now works well in areas that aren't congested, however in parks and relic digs, most would be better suited with a single tier that won't get pulled away by adjacent targets as much. I can get by because I have used FBS machines before, however I could see how others coming from other machines could struggle with it. There are targets that are difficult to pinpoint that I think would have been easier with a FBS machine or XTerra. I know the Etrac would ratchet down, (Multiple tiers) I don't recall the specifics of the Xterra, but it worked easy enough. Perhaps the Equinox is somewhere in between?

Good morning.

Holy smokes right on!

Oh really? What's the best thing you ever found? lol Frig sakes I'm still watching it, how about a spoiler alert next time ?

Break it open, there might be iron inside of it.

I can't wait for the wireless rock pick to come out.

The pendant is nice.

You know I was going to say I though it rang up high, I think I saw 10 or 15 flash a few times which is a bit higher then the usual 22 long casing.

All that glitters is cold, or something like that. Here is today's loot. The Quarter is a 1973 Mountie, a coin celebrating the R.C.M.P. from 1873-1973. The penny is no big deal, other then it is a 1964 -silver era. This was another one of those high conductors that up averaged in the surrounding iron, you could not walk away from it even though it was hard to recover in the surrounding trash. It's good that this machine doesn't seem to iron false in the high numbers, meaning that coin stuck out like a sore thumb. The gaudy earring was another big high conductor, turned out to be junk. Last but not least is kind of an interesting find. It appears to be a "6mm Flobert" round which was a cross between a 22 short and a 22 BB gun. It could date back to the late 1800s, though I'll assume its a little newer. A quote from Wikipedia says it "managed to combine about all the disadvantages...[of both] into one generally useless cartridge" lol.