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Everyone enjoys a new toy.... especially if it performs well and is cheaper than the overpriced alternatives. I agree, the hype and excitable banter is ho-hum. In the hands experience with the toy is all that matters. Hopefully, its not a long wait.

Said every hoarder, ever 😉 Saying that, if I could afford 10 detectors, I'd have em too...

Ive confirmed that the '14 Mile well' tenement mentioned is indeed the famous site out from Redcastle. Found a lot of gold there myself in years past. There has been a large patch found there with over 800 nuggets up to 2oz being recovered by the field crews. They have either been allowed to keep the gold or have sold it to the company in exchange for the 'mileage' that the find has produced in the stock market. Shares value in Iceni Gold has climbed nicely. Any map will show the budding prospector where the claypans are, NE of the 14 Mile, near the haul road. Mate of Mine in Laverton says the Iceni guys have been seen detecting near the road since late last year.

I left my 4 names for each detector...now the wait begins. At least the wait isn't long, only a couple weeks. Seems to suggest that they have working prototypes ready for field evaluation.....they just need a name to go on the box prior to shipping to the testers. My name is in the mix to be a field tester so hopefully we get news regarding their release prior to the Nthn Hemisphere's Summer.

Its about time, hopefully Nokta took notice of all the design and performance suggestions that we here on DP gave to Dilek a couple years ago. Legacy Minelab coil adoption, tracking/fixed GB, basic or advanced Fe Disc and a damned clock on the screen! 😁

With a sensitivity increase, you will get more reaction with hot rocks but the detector has less ground signal to deal with (its simply not sensing as much square cm/inches per swing) so you'll hear less general mineralization...unless your ground is filled with hot rocks lol.

It shouldn't be, the small size means there is less ground signal to deal with. If there's noise, there's a fault....which is usually in the bottom 1/4 of the coax cable or plug.

HOLY CRAP! Bargain of the century! I woulda jumped on that too 👍

The 2200's are a killer detector for deep gold, especially after being modded and use large coils. Un-modded, they are less sensitive to small gold...so a stock unit won't be as useful as a patch hunting machine. Curious as to how much $$ did you pay @Jin??? Sounds like a damn good package you got.

The Chinese have an Industry wholly focused on commercial espionage. Ex Chinese Spy Agency personnel have huge networks of agents that only infiltrate and steal codes, plans and docs via electronic means. They target defense and tech companies mainly. Fairly easy work for them and lucrative. Minelab/Codan have been a target in the past and I'd imagine Nokta has now become another target.

Did you use the target ID for all signals? Few ppl are saying that a huge majority of lead shot can be ignored because it displays as '00'. Anything higher is worth digging of course...

Yeah, always only 2 stacks because anything more than that is unnecessary. The more layers, the less benefits from having the flat-winding in the 1st place. The layers are separated by only a very thin isolation to keep the firmness when applying the wire. Another method for applying flat windings (if the wire length is only 10% over the coil shell capacity) is to coil or bundle leftover wire in a suitable spot. Not sure thats what X Coils have done though coz Ive never seen their GPX coils nor any scans. But Ive seen other manufacturers build trial coils using that method. Narrower Ellip shaped coils have less ground signal per sweep and hence sensitivity is enhanced for tiny targets. Simon, that probably explains the extra sensitivity you've experienced I reckon.

Before selecting any timing change, lower your gain as Steve suggests. The legacy GPX units ALL have receive gain only, NOT transmit (until you get them modded). ML's idea of 'gain' is akin to cranking open your ears, allowing more audio reception rather than any actual increase. Its a filter allowing more % of receive signal into your perception for your own ears/brain to determine audibly whats an actual signal and whats ground noise. Only modding accesses the transmit circuitry to allow actual gain.

Both the NF 12x8 mono for legacy GPX and the Coiltek 9" Elite are twin stack flatties as well. Anything under 11" is gonna need stacking.....otherwise, there's not enuff room.

Anyone involved in the industry/hobby for the past decade/s will know that Minelab is a Master of what their previous Sales Manager labeled 'incremental Innovation' . They will always release a new detector model ONLY when the economic circumstances force them to. Steve has seen multi-decades of disappointment in the industry where promises and expectations are dashed, so a degree of pessimism is completely warranted. On the plus side, ZVT tech has been investigated quite a bit lately by Woody and only on two improvement stages, he has found wild improvements in overall depth on all sizes of targets. Add the benefits of new coil designs and the 8000 could well be something special. BUT, Minelab will have to ensure that the model they release will not supersede the next 2 models they have on the drawing board....

I think if you suggest HF VLF detectors only, you could be right. The Garrett Groundhog range is multiple units and not just one single model but that together could rival the GB2's record. The overall winner would have to be the Minelab GPX4500, the highest selling PI detector ever built. The amount of gold found with that detector in Africa alone is simply staggering. Says something, that one single detector can be manufactured for over 30 years and has found multi-millions of pieces worldwide without being altered in any meaningful way and still being offered for sale as a successful option. Fisher deserves to be resurrected based on this alone

Probably a very small marketplace for it....not worth the expenditure to develop. A smaller, enthusiast company could do it though, but the markup would be high and thus the RRP would follow suit.

Most serious analysts suggest that silver should hit US$100 per oz and the more excitable analysts are hoping it could even reach US$300 per oz 'within a few years'. So hang onto it, if you can afford to... No new major silver deposits are being discovered and a lot of smaller mines and by-product producers (lead or nickel mines) are closing each year. So, demand is increasing and supply is decreasing.....usual effect of that is a price increase. We wait and see...

I been saying it for years, FTP needs to divest Fisher, sell it off as a going brand and allow it to regain some real market share again. BH and Teknetics are a dead duck and probably need to just retire. They 'had their day' and nobody takes those brands seriously anymore. Fisher though, is still an iconic brand (first metal detector brand since 1931) and everybody knows the name. The Gold Bug 2 has been in production for 30 years (?) which says something. I owned 2 and found thousands of bits of gold with them....still sorta wish I owned one now in fact.

Dunno why I'm laughing....all that sh*t don't work with me either.... eyes, back, legs....list goes on. 😒 Still, I never thought Id see gold at AU$112 per gram. I could almost afford to eat at that price!

Ive only tried around a couple sites in Luzon and the soil is as mild as it gets, compared to Australia. A Gold Monster would be fine, or any other HF VLF detector. Just that there are places where trash is considerable. So use something that has ferrous ID or basic discrim. In my 2 trips to the Phil. I got ripped off twice, attempted pick-pocketted numerous times, dodged street gags who were known to abduct westerers etc. Once money or potential valuables come into play, there can be trouble. A detector is like a red flag to a bull over there....be careful. Get your detector freighted via Fedex (with insurance) as long as the tax isnt too much.

Can just imagine the ML patents attorney trying to invent buzzwords to obfuscate the real ingredients and use thereof for the canteen pie sauce....the paragraphs have to be 20 sentences long...minimum 😁

I would say that is perfectly true. I can barely remember ANY hot rocks I ever got with the 2300 ...

As JP says....YEP! Its most definitely a significant improvement.... perhaps one of the three channels is MPF-like, with the super fast sampling on another one for the tiny stuff. The triple channel has certainly added an extra layer of PI sensitivity.

Geosense is simply an automated way of altering the CPU code on the fly. The ground minerals sensed by the CPU automatically alters the receive code to filter more efficiently. Plucking the tiny metal signals from the overall receive signal. The 6000 is a triple channel detector and 2 of these channels are 'MPF like' with only one being dedicated to code seeking deeper targets. Interesting that MPF is no longer being touted as a technology on the box anymore. Wonder if the patent is still active????