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From an engineering perspective, it's always better to reduce the complexity of a given system, that's all I'm saying. But there are 2 views to this. Reducing 2 batteries to 1 has its advantages. But so does avoiding an extra wire and attachment points (plug and receptacle). So as I said before, there are benefits and drawbacks to wireless coils. Is it a big deal in practice for most Deus users? Obviously not. But I understand the negative sentiment with having 2 batteries to charge instead of one.

You're mentioning things that have no other option. There's no vehicle or pinpointer that you can operate without replenishing its power source (whether you're swapping out a battery, filling the fuel tank, plugging it in, etc.). But there are plenty of metal detectors where you don't have the charge or maintain the coil and its lithium battery. Is it a big deal? No, but why add more work when you don't have to (assuming the Deus has a comparable alternative to suit your hunting needs)?

Your metal detector using this coil will double as a paddle, so of course it's designed to be waterproof. 😄

Hmmm... I really want one of these coils, but so far, the Equinox 600 is eating my AT Max's lunch. Maybe if I sell my AT Max, I should replace it with an Ace...there are alot of used ones for sale online...

Adding another thing to charge means twice the work to get your machine fully charged, including increasing the chance of forgetting something. It also means roughly doubling the opportunitiy for electrical or mechanical failure. Then there's doubling the battery replacement costs. Also, there are plenty of stories of people heading out to a hunt with only a partially charged Equinox but they thought it was fully charged. It's not like they can just pop out a few AA cells or 9V batteries and get going again. And operating the Equinox with a battery bank attached isn't the most ideal situation (added weight, more wires, lost waterproof ability, etc.) I don't think having a wireless coil is as bad as some people seem to think. But I do understand and relate to the opposition of a wireless coil. Like many other things in life, there are advantages and disadvantages.

This is a very common occurrence here in the US, with many people spending $100-$200 on what they think is a quality detector, then getting quickly frustrated with it and selling it (or at least trying to sell it) in online market places.

Inflation is definitely an issue, but that's not the primary explation for why so many used metal detectors having excessive asking prices.

High asking prices don't bother me. Ignorance bothers me. But then again, this just goes to show how effective Garrett's marketing strategy has been...

So you were the metal detecting equivalent of Soler or Rosario, eh? I used to collect baseball cards and one of the reasons I stopped was b/c the team I collected for (Braves) were probably the most in-demand cards after the Yankees and Red Sox. So you might have a chance to sell that hat for a profit! Great finds by the way!

But that's what's wrong here. People are asking for prices that aren't what the market will bear. If that were the case, I'd tip my hat to the sellers and wish them good luck! I've seen this with video game systems. About 7 years ago, I bought a Nintendo Wii (used) for $7. Now, that same system sells for $60-$100. I know COVID plays some part in this, as does an aging population that grows nostalgic for new things. I don't like it, as I've been looking for certain used video games from my childhood to collect, but can't bear to pay the asking price. But again, it's a supply-vesus-demand situation and I respect that. But they're asking for $400 or $500 for a used AT Pro and wondering why it's still for sale after 12 weeks? That's just the seller being ignorant.

I've seen Tesoros go both ways. Some people willing to sell them for super cheap (like $50 for a Compadre) or pricing them like you said, as if they're magical devices (or collectible).

I agree 100% about what people are asking for for used "higher-end" Fisher and Garrett machines. I've had some success negotiating some of these sellers down, but I fail with most of them. Many of them know so little about the hobby that they can't understand why that they bought an overpriced machine to begin with. The problem with percentages is that some machines are already overpriced by the manufacturer. The F75, F70, AT Pro and AT Max are great examples. Yes, they're great machines, but not for a $500 or $600 asking price for just the detector. For example, the base street price of an AT Max with a few accessories (Carrot, wireless headphones, etc.) is $722. But based on what you can buy from other companies (like N/M and Minelab), along with the AT Max's capabilities, it should probably be priced as a package closer to $550...or so. So taking 25% or 50% off of $722 is a lot different than $600.

That makes sense!

I noticed that as well. And the "tiff" between Aquachigger and some other guy has revealed that I think Relic Recoverist may be sponsored by Minelab now...not 100% sure if this is true, but that's a rumor... "Farmwhore YouTubers..."😆

Neither have I.

Interesting. I ask because I know some people use slings to hold their detectors off the ground while they dig or pinpoint. I'm curious to learn more about how that process works and if it's something I should consider in an attempt to keep my machine cleaner and speed up the target recovery process.

Do you have some sort of sling attached to your Equinox, F350?

If JB Weld doesn't fix it, it can't be fixed... Just sayin'

A few months ago I found a chunky sterling silver ring. For a silver ring, it's pretty nice. I'll trade you if you're interested...😁

Perhaps they hope a potential buyer will confuse the old Deus with the new one? I see the occassional Deus online, but they're rare and the seller is usually asking for just a smidge under street price. I think they're uncommon (in my area, at least) b/c most casual detectorists won't buy the Deus. Most of what I see for sale as used machines are Garretts, Equinoxes and entry-level detectors from all sort of companies.

I'm always browsing online sites for used metal detectors.The next best thing to metal detecting is buying a machine you don't have for a great price, then tinkering with it and selling it later to break even or make a modest profit. However, people often ask for way too much money for their machines (except for maybe the Equinoxes). This is especially true with White's and Garrett machines. Apparently, what many people sell their machines for isn't based on what the machine is worth. Instead, it's what the seller originally bough it for. I'll see used AT Pros for $500 and used AT Maxes for $600 or more. Sometimes they have the Garrett Carrot and some other accessories that they got for free from their purchase bundle. But geez... I know this is their thinking b/c the description will say, "asking for $600, but originally paid $700+ for everything..." No honey, that's now how this works. If it was, I have a CD player from the early 2000s that cost me $120, so that means its selling price today is $90...right?

What phrunt said...

I agree, although I wonder if what has unfolded is what they expected and accounted for. Or, maybe they knew it would be an issue, just not as bad as it ended up being. It's a common practice for companies and business to deliberately release a faulty product or service knowing (or at least believing) the cost savings will outweigh the consequences. I can't stand this practice and believe it should be severely punished by the courts. At the very least, these are just metal detectors and not, you know...Boeing 737 MAX airplanes...

If I was a diver, I'd find a way to put the Equinox into a true, waterproof casing, a la SeaGhost.

If I keep my Equinox 600, when its warranty is done, I have thought about the idea of sending it off to Eastern Europe, Russia or wherever and converting it into the SeaGhost or w/e it's called.