Erik Oostra

56 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said:

Are you using the bone phones with Square tone audio?  They may not work well with PWM audio. Also try lowering the Reactivity a bit to lengthen the square tones along with increasing Audio Response. Try the on the bones right in front of your ears.

done..

14 hours ago, Rick N. MI said:

Interesting videos. Would be easier with a sand scoop. You did get it though. Was that a silver ring?

Thanks, yeah a scoop would be handy there (i do have one), but it was hard enough testing two detectors whilst filming without having another thing to worry about.. I kept looking at the camera to see if it was still filming, dealing with the constant interference from the other detector and kept losing the target.. normally the whole recovery procedure runs a whole lot smoother.. however, you can clearly see why I don't wear wired headphones for my style of hunting.. 😃 yes, it's a little silver ring.. 

6 hours ago, phrunt said:

They look to have a long cord, it's a shame they didn't make it that retractable style where it stretches out when it needs to which sand might be a problem with I guess, or a curly type cable.

Yeah, it's a long stiff plastic lead - 1.8 metres long.. I've got it tried down coiled up at the back of the hand rest to keep it out the way.. I can see it getting tangled up in my regulator hoses when diving but being able to hear them at all makes it worth it.. still, XP could have gone about the whole lead thing a bit better.. a short curly rubber lead would be a huge improvement.. 😃    

28 minutes ago, wltdwiz said:

did you select the bonephone phones in the start menu they should be really loud

yes

4 hours ago, phrunt said:

they work by tiny vibrations on your cheek bones not by the sort of vibrations you're expecting, not like a vibrating pin pointer 🙂

I'm comparing them to hearing aids applying the same principle, with these bone-phones there's no vibration at all, at least that I can feel.. 😁 I also can't hear them on the cheek bone, I need to wear them nearly in the ear.. In wild and woolly beach conditions I'll probably wear them on the ears, and underwater half-on.. I'm trying them out on full volume and the lowest possible tones.. So far they work as normal cheap headphones, although for the price (AU$ 150 + $9 postage) I expected the singing and dancing, bells and whistles variety (like XP promised in the brochure).. 😬   

1 minute ago, phrunt said:

Do they seem sturdy? they don't look very tough.  Hopefully they resolve your audio issues underwater with your hearing problems, I love the idea of the technology.

Like anything XP, they're like a toy.. they reminded me of a kid's stethoscope to play doctors and nurses.. and for all XP's bragging about being the first to introduce bone conduction headphones for metal detecting, so far the new technology isn't working for me.. if they are supposed to vibrate I can't feel a thing.. maybe I'm unlucky and have received a pair of non-vibrating bone-phones.. so far all I've got is a pair of cheap and nasty looking headphones.. 

Nonetheless, cheap looking or not, they do work! and I should be able to hear them underwater.. 😁    

The bone-phones are here! Not looking good for the Wireless detector, the Deus II has just sprouted a whole tangle of them..

1 hour ago, Jeff McClendon said:

your beach appears to have plenty of black sand areas

That's what I've been wondering about.. how much black sand qualifies as a 'black sand' beach? my beaches are all like this, and in some bays there's a thick black sand layer.. I'm always digging into it on deeper targets.. you could be right about the same results for both detectors, it's what I'm used to.. 😁

Here's a pic of the little ring.. although it hasn't got a any mark, both detectors tell me it's silver.. 😁

4 hours ago, The_Stalker said:

With an accurate pinpoint and a decent scoop, that target would be at worse two scoops for a recovery.  Again thank you for another fantastic informative video.

Thanks Stalker, I normally don't have that much trouble finding the target.. I know a scoop would've helped but it's just another thing to drag around the beach.. my hands were already full with two detectors and the camera to film these tests.. 😁 

For any frequency-junkies out there, I'm running the Equinox on Beach 1 (sensitivity 22).. and the Deus II is on the Beach Sensitive program, tuned into whatever sensitivity/salt settings etc. are at play in this program.. 😬 As you can see, the Beach Sensitive program on the Deus II is very busy taking into account my local beach and sea conditions / today's tides / EMI variables / saltwater 'static' / probability of shark or crock attack / space alien interference / ever-moving targets / a very inexperienced user /  etc.. and deserves to be given a fair go in your own beach tests.. but IMHO the Nox-Lite sucks.. Equinox you rock my beach.. 😮

34 minutes ago, Valens Legacy said:

Good luck on your next hunt and stay away from sharks and crocks.

on the beach they're not too much of a worry.. hopefully I'll see them coming before they get to me.. underwater is a different story.. 😬  

29 minutes ago, Norvic said:

now Erik does this apply to crocodiles too....... 🤪

now you've got me worried about them too.. 😬

9 hours ago, Jeff McClendon said:

It sucks that the audio adapter cable (if one needs it) and bone phones aren't included as an option

The only clue the manual gives on it needing a cable adapter for the bone-phones is tucked away on the bottom of page 35.. 

And you're spot on about them not being included, not only the hassle of multiple orders but the costs of it all..   

On 2/3/2022 at 2:00 PM, Tnsharpshooter said:

Which coil are you using on Deus 2?

I'm using the 11" coil.. It's also becoming a bit of a bugbear, along with the target ID display (but I won't rehash that one again, see previous posts).. But I haven't chanced my mind one inch on the coil: the Deus II needs a bigger coil.. I've seen them in the brochures but not on the market.. XP stop teasing us! You're only hurting yourself and will never compete with Minelab if you keep this up!  

On the Equinox I use both the ML 13x15" and the Coiltek 15'' coils underwater.. Bigger coils underwater might not be everyone's cup of tea (and I do use a 11''), but I don't have much trouble using them.. Sure, they are harder to drag around and weigh a tonne.. But for me, the advantage of greater coverage and depth outweigh those factors.. IMHO there's really no great difference to dragging a 11" coil through the water compared to a 15" - both are hard work..

I also like the larger coils for underwater use because they weigh down the detector just where you need it, on the nose.. The Deus II is very 'floaty' when you put it down to fan or dig, it wanders away from you.. the Equinox's heavier coils stay where you've put them, right at hand to scan the hole again if needed..

This might all be small fry complaints or just another rant, but when I think I've got a good target it sucks not having your tool right there where you left it.. 😬

34 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said:

you need those bone phones pronto

they should be here early next week.. 😁

Great story on illegal gold mining.. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-latin-america-60236777

On 2/3/2022 at 10:58 AM, Joe Beechnut OBN said:

and you have to figure many of the Nox hunters know there machine so well, it would take a game changer detector to equal or top them hunting.

or equal.. that's what I've found so far.. maybe one day I'll get as attuned to the Deus II as I am with the Equinox and I'll find out that its multi-frequency ranges and processing really make a difference on my beaches.. I use both detectors on the beach everyday, so I'm continually comparing them.. When I find a likely target with one I compare what the target ID says and what it sounds like with the other.. this is how I've been getting to know the Deus II.. 

Both detectors can find the same targets no matter how small or deep, neither one of them can find something the other one can't.. Again, this is on my beaches and yours will be different.. 😁

Can anyone hear the Deus II in the last video? or any of the others?.. It's on full volume in 3 tones.. The camera's sound recorder can't hear it either (or maybe I can't hear it when playing back the video).. 😬 I can hear myself breathing.. 

I thought I'd post this vid from today's dive with the Deus II while the internet is back on.. I'm sorry I'm not getting back to some of you as fast as I'd like.. a patchy internet is always a bit of a nightmare during the wet season.. 

3 hours ago, phrunt said:

you don't have any little gold nuggets laying around you can test on it in the prospecting mode do you Erik?

I'm ashamed to say I don't.. 😬 

23 minutes ago, Joe Beechnut OBN said:

all found by a Nox

Thanks Joe.. That's why the Deus II is my scuba detector, for the beach my Foxy Noxy will always reign supreme.. 😁 or until I fall madly in love with the Deus's target display.. 

This is what NASA-Tom found during his Equinox testing:

If you were to run Beach Mode-2 at the Sensitivity settings of Beach Mode-1...... there would be a very marked performance loss. Beach Mode-1 is quite a bit more sensitive than Beach Mode-2. You always 'drive' Beach Mode-1 to its highest allowable 'stable' level.... to maximize performance (which is usually around 20/21). When you switch over to Beach Mode-2..... it is much more 'tame' (lame)......and less reactive to the wet salt. SOOOOoooooooo....... in order to 'gain back' what you have lost.,.,.,.,.,.,., the added stability of Beach Mode-2 then requires you to drive the Sens setting up TO the level of (just-shy-of) 'slightly chatty' peak performance. . . . . . which is a Sens setting of 23/24.

He also says that Beach 1 is more unstable when you are fully submerged.. This differs from what I've found but I've always compared the two Beach modes on the same sensitivity settings as an indicator of the detector's stability.. It somehow seemed like an unfair comparison otherwise if you were to change the sensitivity settings.. 😬 It's been a steep learning curve..