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And I ve just done the same test with my Deus1 HF 9X6 and the 9g nickel  . Same result , the nickel sounds scratchy . Would like to do that test with a Vanquish or an Equinox but I have not these detectors any more ...

1 hour ago, Jayhop said:

Correct, if Deep HC did a little better on the Deep low conductors I would just go with that in the 5 tone program. 

 

I have just done a few air tests with the D2 11" and a 6g nickel and 2 smaller copper and silver coins and I confirm that the signal is sometimes scratchy even when the coin is close to the coil with at least the GENERAL , SENSITIVE , PARK , DEEP HC modes ..   It seems to be specific to nickels because I did an other air test with 2 very small half grams coins and the signal is perfectly clean for them ...   

I also did the same test with a Quest Q30+ and I had the same results , scratchy signal on the nickel and clean signal on the 2 others ...

Then there seems to be something special with the nickels , not really an issue for me as I prefer to hunt old bronze or silver coins rather than modern nickels , but I am a little surprised by this ...

The 3 targets , two small 0,5g copper and silver coins and one 6g big nickel  :

The signal is scratchy on the nickel  , while it is clean on the 2 other much smaller copper and silver coins, weird ... :

32 minutes ago, Jayhop said:

 But Deep HC doesn't report very well on the Deep low conductors, tones are broken. 

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Ok I understand better now . You have an issue with Deep HC low conductors ( nickels ) tones/IDs . I didnt do that test I will try that on my bed test

6 hours ago, Jayhop said:

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The problem is that in all programs except Deep HC the dime and quarter IDs bounce back and forth between the 30s and 90s. This gives a very unpleasant tone. I don't see a solution.  

Any ideas?

 

Personnaly I did not see any differences between the D2 and the Equinox on my bed tests ( a 3g bronze coin at 6" and a 10g copper coin at 12" ..)  For me the D2 and Nox depth perfos are identical or very similar, and I have very clean tones at depth with my D2 . But my soil is moderately mineralized.

Is your soil mineralized ?  That could explain the difference ..

I use the GENERAL or DEEP HC factory modes , just changing to 5tones SQUARE 

4 hours ago, phrunt said:

I've noticed my dealer has started stocking the Quest brand, how's it go for depth by comparison to the Simplex and Vanquish? For me here in my soils the Vanquish is the clear winner by comparison to the Simplex especially with its ID capability, the Simplex starts to think deep coins are iron when the Vanquish is still giving a correct ID on them, so it'd be interesting to hear how the Q30 compares depth wise of coin size targets.

The Q30 is much better than the Vanquish in the irons  ( where I detect the more often ) . However the Vanquish goes a little deeper deeper in clean soil with better id at depth to my opinion ..

btw I am not surprised that your dealer now sells Quest because they are great detectors  ..

27 minutes ago, midalake said:

We will see. Will have one in my hands Friday and on the beach with it. Hope I don't break the crappy shaft.

The shaft is ok as long as you are too tall ... It is not crappy it is just a little too smal for tall people like me ( 1,83m ). But there is an optional longer mid rod if I remember well .

I am looking fwd for your feebacks at the beach , I am sure that you cant go wrong with the D2 ...

HH

1 hour ago, midalake said:

YES.....Not cheap..........

Mercedes are not cheap lol ... 🙂 🙂

3 minutes ago, midalake said:

Do you know how much coils are for the deus? 

2 coils for the D2 avail at the moment  : 
- round 9"
- round 11"

6 hours ago, Tahts-a-dats-ago said:

1. Inexpensive

2. Hunt the shore (beach in non-NJ speak) - in water and dry sand.

3. Hunt their yard and parks.

4. Hunt for coins and jewelry.

5. Simple machine that doesn't require a lot of adjustments.

6. Metal detector that tells them the good stuff, so they don't dig trash.

 

     I would have added :

     7. Light & easy to sweep

     8. Reliable 

1. XP Deus2

2. XP Deus1

3. Quest Q30+

4. ML Eq 800

5. ML Vanquish 540

My kind of hunting :
coin hunting , inland , moderately mineralized soil , medium to high iron trash

1 hour ago, Jayhop said:

The manual does say 8 hours coil life when in DHC. It's the program I have the most confidence in at this time. 

Deep HC , I have not yet used-tested this program in the field as the manual states that it should rather be used  for good conductivity targets  , and personnaly I look for all conductivities incl lower ones  . Then for me DHC  looks quite specific with its max 14khz FMF freq  ...  btw I havedone static depth tests with it and yes it goes deep ..

I will try it during my next outing thx...

6 hours ago, Jayhop said:

... The coil battery indicator on the remote control started flashing empty after 7 hours and 40 minutes. It didn't die on me but I was tired so it flashing empty was a good reason to stop.....

 

Very nice finds , congrats ...

Apart from that I noticed the relatively short coil range ( 7 or 8 hours  ) too ....  Hopefully the RC range seems to be much more important ...

6) BACK TO THE WOOD WITH THE P2 SENSITIVE MODE :
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Eventually I decided to go back to the wood to spend a little more time with the D2 on the nail bed with the P2-SENSITIVE mode that I found excellent during my last outing .

As before , I decided to use the SENSITIVE factory mode just changing the tones to 5 TONES and the AUDIO to SQUARE.

As I said above the area is pounded and it is very difficult to find new targets here ..

I have spent a little more than one hour in the wood , keeping on learning the Deus2 SENSITIVE audio which is quite different from the Deus1 , especially when using the SQUARE audio.

I have found quite a lot of targets . There is now no doubt that the D2 can find targets in pounded areas and I like this  "super power" feature ...  🙂

My aim today was to find something older than the 5Centimes 1966 I found last time . Actually during the first hour I only found 1st WW trash and I was a little disappointed . Hopefully during the last 15 mn I found a very nice 25 Centimes 1914 and just after a thin medieval copper coin but very corroded . Not bad to find 2 coins in this irons mess ...

Conclusion the Deus2 has performed very well again here with this P2-SENSITIVE mode 👍 ✌️. Probably the FAST mode will be very good too , I hope I will have the time to test it before I send the D2 back to its owner  ...
 

Back in the wood and the nail bed :

A first coin , with the help of my Quest Xpointer Max pinpointer :

It is a nickel , a nice 25 Centimes 1914 :

A medieval copper coin , very corroded

8 PM , its time to go home , after a short pause at the little town center  ..

3 hours ago, martygene said:

... Had trouble finding things in the menus that I wanted to know what each program was set at. That is going to take some time for me to remember. It seemed that the menu on the D1 was easier to navigate. I wonder if one of you guys more versed in charts and stuff to see if anyone could make out a "schematic" tree. It would be easier for me to visualize the menu structure. I played around all sorts of settings to see how they work....

I agree the D2 RC navigation is sometimes tricky. For example there are some audio parameters in the OPTIONS item , and the others are in the MENU item .

For example if you want to change from 3 to 5 tones and from PWM to SQUARE as I do ,  you have to first do MENU DISC EXPERT for changing the tones , go back to the detection screen, then OPTION SELECT TYPE_AUDIO to change to SQUARE.

It is a little confusing it would have been much simpler to have all the audio options under a single menu ...

Not a major issue for me , I am used to this now and I will save my programs when I am a little more experienced with the detector then no need to navigate anymore ...

btw the thread title is confusing  ,
it should be named : Deus 2 Not Detecting Rolls of Quarters Very Well 
instead of : Deus 2 Not Detecting Quarters Very Well which implies that a Deus2 cannot detect a quarter coin , which is obviously wrong ....

On 3/5/2022 at 3:46 PM, strick said:

... I already have a Nox 800 (4 diff coils) and a Deus 1 with 9" stock and HF coils both of which are tried and true detectors in my arsenal. I wound be interested to know why you think the Deus 2 is the best detector you have ever tested? 

strick 

Because I dont see any major weakness with the Deus2 up to now :

1) it is very fast and excellent in the irons , even better than the Deus1 that was already a reference in the iron trash
2) it seems to go deep, deeper than the Deus1 ( I need to do a field test to confirm this ) 
3) it has a new and excellent optional SQUARE audio which is softer than the little 'scratchy" Deus1 historical PWM audio
4) it is by far the lightest SMF detector available at the moment , especially with the 9" coil

However this applies to my local conditions . Your local conditions in the US may be different with mineralized soil , EMI due to different power lines freqs etc ... The best thing for you would be to test the D2 before buying but it is not always possible ...

Just my opinion ...

53 minutes ago, John Henry said:

I buried some aluminum bars at 1.5 ft turned sensitivity to halfway and it detected them at a reading of 26…so hoping since the gold/silver are larger it would detect a little deeper. 

Yes I would have said 1,5 feet ( 45cm ) max for a gold bar with the 540 . Then if they are at 2 feet or deeper you will probably miss them .. Just my opinion

2 hours ago, relicmeister said:

I am enjoying your test postings very much. I wonder if  in addition to testing Park, you can test it in open fields using deep HC and relic modes in the near future. 

Thanks . The farmer has just plowed the field yesterday ( see pic below ) then I cant go back there before a few months  ... My next outing will be in a forest for deep coin hunting where I will try GENERAL , PARK , DEEP HC and RELIC ..

4 minutes ago, EL NINO77 said:

Relict works on allmetall mode ... but IAR-type discrimination - just like Gold Field ...

I have tried IAR , but when I increased it I noticed a depth loss , then I am not convinced by this setting ...

On 3/4/2022 at 11:34 PM, Ogliuga said:

And alternate screen display doesn’t help on this regard. Don’t like alternate screen display. With D1 I always put rc in my pocket...D2 is a new toy and during first months, checking often the screen, I have noticed that the alternating screen is freaking out, mineralization strength graphic is something disturbing..

XP will probably solve this alternate screen display issue .  As I said , it is not a pb for me because my D2 RC is always in the pocket except when changing settings.  But I understand others needing to see the RC screen ...

5 hours ago, phrunt said:

Thanks for your reports, you've answered a lot of my questions.  It looks like for your style of detecting it's going to be a very suitable detector for you.

Not only for me I think ... 🙂

I have just updated my "4) DEPTH TESTS WITH THE DEUS2 11"   above post because there was an error in it concerning the RELIC mode :

The RELIC does display the target VDI then it definitely HAS a visual discrimination, this as long as the target is not too deep ( too close to the target max depth limit ) .

Look at my updated above post for more details thx ...

1 hour ago, Ogliuga said:

 

Did you pump coil more times on that soil?

I will try to GB again and let you know . Btw it is not a big issue for me as my soil is not mineralized then the D2 factory modes work very well without having to ground balance anything ... 🙂

12 hours ago, relicmeister said:

What are you’re observations on separation and pinpointing ( using cross and drawback methods, with 11” coil. as compared to the 9” on the Orx?  This weekend there will be no problem with frozen ground and will be my first opportunity to dig multiple targets and different programs using the Deus II. 

Of course it is easier to center the targets with a 9" coil ( like the Orx 9")  than with a 11" coil ( like the Deus2 11"  ) . This is why I always use a pinpointer with a 11" coil . Btw I never use the detectors pinpoint function I prefer using the cross method ...

I am looking forward for your feedbacks with the D2 differents programs , I am sure you that will like it  , it is really a great detector ... 🙂 🙂