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On 2/18/2022 at 4:49 AM, phrunt said:

Yep, even the 9" version sitting in stock with no interested buyers. 

https://www.jacobsdigital.co.nz/products/xp-deus-ii-detector-22-fmf-coil-9-rc-ws6-headphones

I'm a bit surprised myself, I thought a couple of people would want one.

My MD dealer has a few D2 9" versions still available . Hopefully he has no pb to sell them ...

BTW he told me that the users having a D1 sell them to buy a D2 , and the others having an entry level detector sell them to buy a second hand D1 .  Looks like a general upgrade to quality ... 🙂

2 hours ago, Carolina said:

...  my Deus ll is killer deep. I mean deep with great audio, great separation and runs smooth as silk. ....

I am going off topic but I have just done a quick test with the D2 on my beach bed test ( a box filled with sand + salt water with a 2euros coin at 11" depth ) .

--> The D2 hits the coin  easily , then yes it seems to go deep at the beach , a little deeper than all the machines I have tested up to now btw ... 🙂 

Prog used : Beach or Beach sensitive modes without any modif

1 hour ago, Carolina said:

.... You will get used to the charging jack with time. Tarsacci has a M8 connector also. ...

I agree it is perhaps a matter of getting used to it . But as a tester I will post everything , the positive and also the less positive 🙂 .    I do that for each detector that I test , whatever the brand ...

btw I have not yet started my static and field tests but I already noticed that the D2 is very light , which is much more important for me than this little jack issue .... 

I am happy that you have fun with your D2 ... 🙂

HH

11 hours ago, martygene said:

Just got the D2 last nite and when I charged the remote with the included plug the plug doesn't go very far and is loose and falls out easily. I have it lined up correctly. I don't see how that will work when trying to upgrade the system. If it looses connection while doing an update it could cause a lot of problems. am I missing something on this? I don't want to push too hard for fear of bending or breaking any of those tiny thin pins. It's freezing and more snow coming so I am trying to figure out the menu system. I did scan some coins and stuff under the coil to see approximate TID's  and to hear tonal nuance   (CD) lol The EMI in this house is crazy and you should see what it looks like in the  XY screen... lol  

Yes I dont like this 5pin  RC charging plug  . It is small and difficult to plug . I would have preferred a magnetic charging  plug like on the Equinox or the Quest Q30/Q30+ ...

Good news , Benjamin , from Chateau Numis , North of France , proposed me to test the Deus2 during 3 weeks 🙂.  I will post my report as usual ...

Metaux-detection.fr - Boutique de détecteur de métaux

10 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

Quite a bit cheaper ($369 with shipping included) here in USA through Serious_Detecting.

Yes it looks like a very good deal especially if you can order the 5X9 BladeX in the US ... 

On 2/21/2022 at 3:01 PM, NCtoad said:

....
Initial thoughts:  I really like the lightweight and ergonomics of the deus2.   My nox feels like a tank in comparison (11” coil). ...   

 

Very good test thx . I agree with you , the D2 is not a "miracle" detector , it has probably similar detecting  performances to the others but just outperforms them with its ergonomy/lightness with its 9" coil ( 350g ). 

I have a cousin who had serious shoulder issues after sweeping an heavy detector during several years ( a ML Advantage with a very heavy 11" coil ).   He was almost going to stop detecting . Now he uses a Deus(1) and his shoulder pbs have disappeared .  Then eventually yes the Deus can be a miracle machine for a few ones ... 🙂  🙂

For my kind of hunting , inland and mainly open fields I prefer the Quest to the Vanquish and Simplex+ , this despite the Raptor coil weight ..  The Vanquish and Simplex+ are good detectors , but I definitely prefer the Q30 audio ...

On 2/20/2022 at 4:57 PM, Steve Herschbach said:

...... I’m a bit concerned now about what testing may or may not have been done, as regards the Deus 2 and EMI in the U.S., as testing in Europe alone would not be sufficient to deal with our electrical grid.

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I agree , for sure the D2 has mostly been tested in France/Europe . But this is probably the same for all the other manufacturers as MD detectors manufacturers are small companies that certainly dont have the people for doing intensive testing all over the world with all the different electrical standards ; power lines , GSM towers , etc ...

However I will ask to my dealer about this EMI issue, at least for France . I will pay attention to this as I should have a D2 for testing starting from this week ...

Weights without coil cover :

- Ripper : 320g   ( Apex+Ripper 1,09kg )
- Viper   : 400g   ( Apex+Viper   1,17kg )
- Raider : 460g   ( Apex+Raider 1,23kg )
- Reaper : not tested

I have used an Apex a few months last year ( 50hours ) for inland hunting . For me it would be a very good detector without the reliability issues I had with it ( coil , coil connectors, electronics stability bugs ).  I hope its ok with yours ... 

I mainly used my Apex with the Ripper which is very light , fun to use and excellent in the iron trash.  The Viper is also a good coil but a little heavier . I gave just a try to the Raider but it was too front heavy for me . 

HH

11 " depth for a bullet,  looks like a very good result for a lead , then a not very conductive target ...

6 hours ago, Calmark said:

..... And great reminder to people testing new machines to be patient, and double and triple check issues, rather than immediately to jump to conclusions. 

I agree, never jump to conclusions about a detector before you have at least 20/30 hours with it in the field. Especially with sophisticated detectors with multiple modes/settings like the Deus2 ... 

14 minutes ago, Bill (S. CA) said:

... We have all had the "I want to wrap this damn thing around a tree" moment with a new machine. 

Yes I confirm I had this moment during my first hours with the ML Explorer XS at the beginning of the 2000s ... But my opinion suddenly changed when I found my first hammered medieval coins with it ... 🙂

This is a good video . From what I have seen on this video the D2 11 seems to be at least as good as the Eq800 11 for depth. But not much difference .

However the guy concludes a little too quickly for me. A detector cannot be assessed after short static tests and he seems to forget the field tests which are the most important part of the assessment job ...  May be he will do them later  ...

For example he completely missed the mechanical ergonomy which is probably the most important difference between the Equinox and the Deus2. The D2 will probably be around 300g lighter than the Eq800 with the CB in the pocket , and this should make an important difference  in the field during long outings .. 

I am not surprised by this coil connector corrosion issue , as these connectors seem to be of very poor quality . Mine is too tight . Last time I could hardly remove it , never seen something like this during 22 years detecting . 

Even a cheap machine like the Quest X5 ( 170e ) has far much better connectors than the Apex ( 500e ) ... 🥵

ST ARM , ST like STMicroelectronics ? Thats a French company if I remember well ... 🙂

3 minutes ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

... or even this...

 

depth gauge I would prefer a vertical display like on all the other detectors   , an horizontal display can lead to misunderstandings 

Very interesting video thx . After having carefully watched the video I prefer the D2 audio to the Kruzer . The signals on targets are stronger and the most important they are cleaner and sharper , despite the bigger size of the D2 coil . 

Usually big coils are less accurate on targets than smaller ones , this is not the case here with the D2 11" coil ...

I dont like this test too . At the end of the video one would conclude that the Aq is better in the ferrous than the Deus2 , which of course it is not ...  

3 hours ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

..., we have the Deus II, which appears to be a step up from the current SMF machines at a much higher price...

This might change during the coming months with the Deus2 WS6 master "Lite" version . The D2 WS6 master will probably be at around 800e/$ , then almost the same as the Legend . 

I have never needed to adjust my volume segments individually . Having the same volume response from all my targets , except the ferrous , is exactly what I need  .  So no major omission of flexibility for me here ...

I am not a beach specialist , but I agree with calabash , I rather see users moving from the Anfibio to the D2 than the opposite , simply because of the detection comfort criteria , with a D2 weighing around  800g vs an Anfibio ( 1,7kg ! )  ...

And there will still be a big difference between the D2 and the new Legend ( 1,4kg  ) 

This is the downside of NM detectors  , they are heavy ... Some people dont care about their detector weight , but the majority prefer lighter machines. This is probably the most important reason of the XP success story ... 

12 hours ago, dabber said:

price for the 9" and the 11" is the same 399 euro,here in belgium.

 

I just had a discussion with a French dealer yesterday , yes the D2 9" and 11" coils prices will be at 399e . The RC 750e and the WS6 350e 🙂👍.  Available in April , then we ll have to wait a little 😒 ...  At the moment only the D2 full packages are available at 1600e .

I will probably order a 9' coil + the WS6 headphones in April , as I already have the D1 rod . Then total for me  749e  , which is a good deal as it looks like that the WS6 has all the settings that I need.

34 minutes ago, GnshpCSO said:

... I could see a considerable difference between a 6" coil and an 11" coil as with the Nox, but how much of a difference between 9" and 11" coil with similar tech? I'm probably splitting hairs here, but I really am curious. 

No you are not splitting hairs there s defintely a big difference between a 11" and a 9". The iron separation is MUCH better with a 9" coil than a 11" coil. And a 9" coil is usually siginificantly lighter than a 11".  

If you look at all the detectors from other brands you will see that they mostly propose a 9" or eliiptical equivalent ( 11X7 for the T2/G2 for example ) as stock coil . There are some exceptions to this with ML and the Equinox for example , not sure that it was a good idea from them 🙂 ...

2 hours ago, GnshpCSO said:

Greetings all. This is my first post here outside of the meet and greet section. I’m running a Nox 800 now, but I’m adding the Deus 2 to the arsenal tomorrow (getting on the order list). My question is: which is the better coil option, 9” or 11”, and why? I’ve watched most of Calabash Digger’s videos, but don’t find a video where he discusses this. I understand the improved separation with smaller coils in trashy areas with all the other detectors I have owned, are the benefits the same with the D2? Any other real differences other than a slightly larger coverage area and trash separation? Any advice from any of the people fortunate to have used/tested the Deus 2 would be much appreciated. TIA

Mac

Hi , Welcome ,

I dont have a D2 yet but I imagine that it will the same for the D2 as for all the other detectors/brands I have owned ... : 

9' coil
  the plus : light ,  excellent in the iron trash  , easy target centering
  the cons : less ground coverage than the 11" , a little less depth on medium/big coins than the 11"

11' coil 
  the plus :  the deepest on big targets ( medium/big coins ) in clean soils, the important ground coverage
  the cons : poor separation in the iron trash , it is often difficult to center the targets without a pinpointer , and last but not least they are usually heavy 

From my standpoint I detect inland and very often in the irons , and I dont like nose heavy machines , then I will go for the D2 9" ...