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The Equinox has weaknesses but on the other hand ML has an excellent after service ( at least in France ). I had 2 failures with my Equinox , first a ML80 headphones button broken , and a few months later a CB side button broken . Both the ML80 and the CB have been replaced with brand new ones by ML without any discussion ...

Yes the same for me , I do not like the T2 power knob side location . Side buttons are not for me ..🙂 🙂 I have even broken an Equinox CB side button and had to send it to the after service . Hopefully ML have a serious after service and they sent me a brand new pod ✌️ 👍

Not for me anyway , I have used a goldmaxx for several years between 2007 and 2013 , and a Deus since 2013 to now . I could never come back to a Goldmaxx any more now , even with the box mounted under the elbow , or even hipmounted ... A goldmaxx weights 1,5kg and the CB 580g if I remember well. Btw I had during these 5 years mostly used the goldmaxx hipmounted ,with only the coil mounted on the shaft and a cable between the shaft and my belt . It was ok for field hunting , but very annoying and even dangerous in woods where the coil cable hangs on the branches . So when the Deus came it was exactly what I was looking for , a goldmaxx without cables .. 🙂 🙂. Cumfortable to use detectors adresses a big market ; young people , women , older guys like me 🙂 ... If the wireless XPs were weighing 1,5kg I am not sure that the XP company would still exists ... Concerning the T2 , I have used it during a few weeks for a testing session and I am a big fan of its audio, I prefer the T2 audio to the Deus actually .... I never understood why Teknetics had never updated this excellent machine with a modern thin CB design using a lithium battery , a telescopic shaft etc ... It would probably have been a best seller ... sounds like a mystery for me

An update to my prev post , the Simplex+ control box weights exactly 376g ( and not 300 ), see pic below . I suggest a very easy and interesting experience, sweep the Simplex : 1) with the CB on the shaft 2) without the CB ( the Simplex CB is easy to remove from the shaft , a screw on the handle ) . You will immediately see/feel a ( big ) difference ... This helps to understand why the wireless XPs are so cumfortable to use ...

I use the S telescopic Lite shaft , no adjustment at all for me ... 🤔 Canne S TELESCOPIC Lite | XP METAL DETECTORS

The reason is simple , this is because of the control box . A Simplex control box weights around 300g and even if it is not at the bottom end of the detector , it is 300g more to sweep for the shoulder vs a Deus with the CB in the pocket ... The same with the Equinox , its pod ( handle+ CB ) weights 430g . The same with a Vanquish , pod + handle 400g , etc ... Btw the Deus CB is very light ( 150g if I remember well ) , then it is still cumfortable to use even with the CB on the shaft .

Agree the Deus armcuff is too close from the hangrip especially for tall persons ( like me ) . I will tell this asap to my dealers in France so that they inform the XP guys ...

The 9" Deus2 coil weights around 350g without CC . It is a very light coil then not much pressure to keep the nose up . May be different with the 11" which is a little heavier at around 400g without CC. Weights to be confirmed as the Deus2 is not yet released to customers . An 11" Eq coil weights 420g, a Vanquish V12 12X10 440g and a 11" Simplex 480g.

The current Equinox pricings in France : - Eq 800 : 999euros - Eq 600 incl ML80 wireless headphones : 728euros Then the Legend ( 749euros ) and Eq600 pricings are almost the same over here .. https://www.lefouilleur.fr/fr/77-detecteurs-minelab

I fully agree with that , Legend looks like a nox clone , except for the telescopic shaft . Then I am on the Deus2 too , as I have been using XP detectors since a few years now 🙂 and always happy with them , starting with the Goldmaxx in 2007 👍 ... This even I would have preferred a Lite version instead of the "full" version because I dont really need the Deus2 control box...

And not also vs the Equinox 600/800 ? 🙂 The Eq 600/800 are probably still good performers vs the Legend or the Deus2...

Nothing really new in terms of mechanical ergonomics , the Legend will probably weight around 1,3kg 1,4kg , which is similar to the Equinox , and the Deus2 is much lighter: 800g ( CB in the pocket ) .. However its low price 635$ is for sure interesting ... Looking forward for the field tests ...

I agree but an Equinox and a Deus/Orx are quite different , experienced users have often several machines , for example : - an Eq800 or a Vanquish for the depth in clean soils - a Deus1 or Orx for separation in the iron trash + lightness, BTW the Deus2 could meet all the requirements , separation in iron trash AND depth in clean soils... 🙂 🙂 As long as you have the money for it 🙂 To be confirmed by field tests however ... Anyway the best thing for you would be to try each of 3 above detectors before buying one , but it is not always easy to do ...

Yes the 9X5 oval is a little lighter , but not much , around 10g . 310g for the 9"X5" and 320g for the 9" round

Are you sure about these Ultimate 13" weight figures ? I have just weighted a 13" ( incl the CC ) that I used with a Detech Chaser a few years ago and the result is 591g ... Looks like 530g is rather for a coil without CC ... Unless Detech have changed their coil design ??

I did not mention the Garrett Apex in my list . It is a fast , light and easy to use detector I like it however I have had some reliability issues with it. Perhaps because mine was coming from a 1st batch . It looks like Garrett has fixed the issues now but this has to be confirmed

1) Equinox 800 : a detector very popular in the US and other countries because it is a very good all purpose machine which can be used for coins hunting in parks , gold prospecting in hot soils as well as saltwater beach hunting etc . Goes deep on medium/big coins on clean soils. - Eq800 + 11" coil weight : 1260g 2) Rutus alter 71 : I have never tested this detector - Rutus alter 71 weight : 1630g 3) XP Deus1/Orx : the most popular detectors in western Europe , because they are excellent for coin/relic hunting in the iron trash , they have an excellent iron filtering and they are very fast/accurate on targets, then they perfectly match the European conditions with tons of irons everywhere, especially in fields ... 🙂 They are also by far the lightest machines and they are very cumfortable to use . Very reliable too . The Deus might be a little too complex for a full beginner due to the number of settings , the Orx is a simplified version of the Deus which is easy to use and still very efficient in the field. - Deus/Orx + 9X35coil weight : 750g The Deus2 is coming , it will add the multifrequency then the saltwater beachhunting ability , and for inland hunting it will probably go a little deeper than the Deus1 on medium/big targets in clean soils . However it is a quite expensive machine at 1600e ... The Deus2 Lite will be cheaper but it is not yet released ... 4) The Minelab Vanquish is also a good detector , it is based on the Equinox electronics platform. It is very good on clean soils and goes deep. Very easy to use , very reliable with affordable prices ( from 240e ). But for me it is not the best on iron trashed sites where it is a little noisy/unstable. - ML Vanquish + V10 coil weight : 1200g Hope that helps ... Thx for the pictures btw , they are very nice ..

Welcome Dzwiedz ,you will find very experienced and nice people on this forum . A very good choice ... 🙂🙂

An update of the list with 2 other coils below ( including coil covers ) : ML Vanquish V12 12"X10" -- 497g ML Eqx 11" -- 504 g Detech 13" Ultimate for Fisher F75 -- 532 g Simplex+ 11" -- 540g Detech 13" Ultimate for Fisher Gold Bug family -- 549 g ML Eqx 12"x15" -- 674 g (new Detech Ultimate 15" fits in here) Nel 15" Attack for Gold Bug family -- 819 g Coiltek 14" (typically labeled 15") 3 kHz version for ML X-Terra 705 -- 864 g Referring to Simon's post I am curious to see how a Simplex Ultimate 13" would perform vs a Vanquish V12 on a big coin at depth ( 10g for example ) this in clean+mild soil. I am not sure that the Simplex will do better than a Vanquish because the Simplex is running at a higher freq ( mono 12k ) than a Vanquish ( lower MultiIQ freq 5khz ). I would like to do the test on my bed tests but I dont have a Simplex any more ...

In 2010 too there were people arguing that XP was completely wrong with their Deus ... I wish XP to be as wrong with the Deus2 as they were with the Deus1 ... 😀 😹

OK you found 2 coins with the Deus elliptical HF , but what were the results at the same site with the other machines ( etrac , ctx , etc .. ) ? Curious to see your results , thx ...

In France , the Deus2 release date will be starting from December if I refer to what is currently displayed on all the French MD internet sites .. An example below: XP DEUS II Pack 22FMFRCWS6 - metaux-detection.fr

For me there is absolutely no difference between charging my Deus1 Lite and charging an Equinox or my Vanquish. - With an Equinox or Vanquish I have to charge 2 devices : the CB ( 4 nimh batteries for the Vanquish, a lithium battery for the Equinox ) and the ML80 wireless headphones - With my Deus1 Lite WS4 I have to charge 2 devices : the coil and the WS4 wireless headphones Then exactly the same .. Of course with a Deus1 'full' including the CB + wireless headphones I would have to charge 3 devices , this is one of the reasons why I dont use a CB ... I agree that the Deus1 coil butterfly clip system is a little tricky . it requires a little care when using it , you just need to check that the coil charging led is on just after setting the clip . Not a big deal ... 🙂

When the Deus1 was released in 2010 , its price was around 1500e . Now it is around 1000e :Détecteur XP DEUS 22RC X35 - Metaux-detection.fr It will be the same for the Deus2 , the prices will decrease ..

I mean Noktas SMF coming in 2 weeks . Yes you are right Nokta's should answer to the Equinox as nobody knew what XP was going to pull off their hat just a few weeks ago ... 🙂