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Hi Slavomir, ... which can stably detect over the limit of 35cm , AND efficient in the field. I say this because there are some settings with some detectors that go very deep on static depth tests ( like the DEEP program on the Deus ) , that I however found unusable in the field as soon as there is a little iron trash ... Btw on my static depth tests my limit is rather 30cm for a 2 euro coin , but my soil is a little mineralized . Then 35cm for a 10cent coin for sure I will be interested by this machine ... Looking forward for your tests report ... Alain

What about the iron trash ? Did you dig a lot of them ? thx

I have used the Blackubes a few hours in my Vanquish 540 . I had sometimes pbs to insert the usb connectors in the batteries . As I now use an Apex with an integrated lithium battery I cant really answer to the question sorry ..

I remember 2 or 3 years ago here in France , it was in July , 27deg at 11PM , dont know in Fahrenheit sorry ... Too hot to sleep. I decided to go detecting .... And I was lucky enough to find a very nice merovingian silver coin dating from around +730 in a field at midnight ... A good day eventually ...

39degs at 10PM this is crazy ... Cold wave here at Soissons , North of France , 15deg at 11PM 🙂 ... HH

Thanks for this info which is not in the Apex manual btw, I had this idea but never tried it in the field. Will try it asap ... I like the Garrett MS-3 volume potentiometer , the MS-3 design is perfect ... 🙂

From my standpoint I always have a pinpointer with me when using the Viper coil . I dont need the pinpointer as much with the Ripper . Anyway both coils are excellent , you cant go wrong with them ... 🙂

Yes I agree, for example the Apex has five tones, the same for the Vanquish 540 ... But it is not the only one , the XP Orx has only 3 tones ... I hope that the new NM SMF will have at least 5 tones ...

Hi Steve , I may be off topic , but I like rucksacks . For several reasons , because I have my hands free when carrying a rucksack , second it is easier to carry heavy loads with a rucksack than with an hardcase , and there are a lot of pockets in my rucksack for all my stuff ... The detector in the central pocket can be protected by adding pieces of foam ... Just an idea for easy travelling , and in the field... But a top end rucksack is required , this one is a Lafuma Landcruiser 65 and its price was around 180euros , mine is a second hand ..

My detection gear : - A leather belt with the Profind 35 pinpointer and a pouch for trash and targets. - A rucksack ( Lafuma Lancruiser 65 ) which contains a lot of things : . the detector - here an Apex + the spade ( Fiskars Xact ) 2 parts in the central pocket . a water bottle in the left side pocket . my wallet , the car key , a Garmin Oregon 600 and mosquito spray in the right side pocket . the MS-3 detector headphones in the top pocket . etc ...🙂

Actually on my home bed tests I did not see much depth difference between the Ripper and Viper, either for the big 10g copper coin at 11in depth or the little 3g bronze coin at 6in depth. I was a little surprised by this but I think that it comes from the coils similar ( and small ) widths , 6 in for the Viper and 5 for the Ripper . For me the Viper advantage vs the Ripper is the ground coverage and not the depth. Btw I have just ordered the Raider 8.5 X 11 yesterday , I should receive it next week . Normally it should go deeper because it is a larger coil . I plan to use it on clean soils . I will send a post as soon as I have more infos ... The 10g copper coin test box :

As I have up to now mainly been using the Ripper coil , I decided this time to test the stock Viper coil. I went to a path in a wood near a small town. As usual , such paths are infested by irons of all sizes and this one was not an exception ... The soil is moderatly mineralized there. I immediately noticed a very similar behaviour between the Viper and the Ripper, short and reactive signals on targets with an excellent iron filtering. Just the Viper has a more important coverage than the Ripper , however the Viper is a little heavier and it is more difficult to center the targets with it , a poinpointer is often required ,hopefully I had my ML Profind 35 with me ... As usual the Apex was very easy to use despite the difficult conditions , even with this bigger Viper coil. The Apex is almost silent on the ferrous and only beeps on good targets , this is quite impressive ... At the beginning I found quite a lot of targets but only trash . However at the end of the outing I heard a signal on the left side of the path , not very clear so I switched to Iron Audio that gave me a mix of iron and good stuff . So I decided to dig and was quite surprised to see a nice silver coin , a 1937 2 Mark probably lost by a WW2 German soldier... Never found such a coin ... Thanks Mr Garrett ... 🙂 Now I have 15 hours with the Ripper + 2 hours with the Viper and I confirm that the Apex is a very good machine , excellent on small and bigger targets . It just requires a few hours( around 10 hours ) to get used to its audio and settings . Once done it is very fun to use , not the deepest one with the Viper but frighteningly efficient in the field especially in the iron trash .. 🙂 My settings : RELICS factory mode , MF freq , SENS 7 , GB 83 At home after a little cleaning : And the trash ...

For the moment I have just feedbacks from French dealers saying that the XP SMF machine is on the way , I will try to have more detailed infos ... 🙂

Dont forget that XP is coming with a new SMF machine . There will be competitors for the new NM machine in the field ... On the other hand competition is always good for the end users ...

I agree the Ripper goes deep for its size , Garrett could have proposed it as stock coil for the Apex because it is an excellent coil , very light , deep and great in iron trash

Hi, I have looked the video but could not see the Deus screen. Never mind I understand that detecting in mild soils and mineralized are very different things . And detecting in Colorado is very different from detecting in French mild soils. Might be interesting to inform the US XP support about this VDI shifting, and see what they answer about this issue ...

I have a profind35 since 2 years now and it works very well for me including the iron disc ... I dont understand what could be wrong with this poinpointer .. Or may be I have the only one working correctly ... 🙂

Yes have a nice trip Steve , looking forward for your pics from Alaska ... Alain

I dont like fiddling with my detectors settings. I largely prefer detectors with factory settings already perfectly set. This is the case with my Deus for coin hunting. I use the nr3 "DEUS FAST" mode , I have just changed the tones to FULL TONES. Thats all ... I have a friend that use a Deus for 1st WW relics hunting. He asked me to set his Deus for him. I set the nr1 "BASIC1" factory mode that he uses since 2 or 3 years with excellent results , I just changed the number of tones to 5 TONES, thats all. On my Apex I use the RELICS factory mode without any change , I like this machine because the factory settings are perfectly set . I also like the Vanquish 540 because it is easy to operate , no headache I like simple things ... 🙂 My favorite mode JEWELLERY Not so simple btw as long as it took me a little time to find the right detection mode for each machine 🙂 , this by testing in the field and also from infos given by forum members ...

True for clean soils , but a little different on high iron trashed areas . You would find very little with an Ace on some areas I know over here , where a fast detector with an excellent iron filtering like a Deus/Orx , Apex , G2 , Lobo etc is required ... ( small/very small coins among hundreds of rusty nails )

Weird , I have had excellent results with the Orx during my testing and it is known as an excellent detector over here in France . But we use it in low to moderate mineralizations , and its behaviour may be different in higher mineralizations/different conditions ... Concerning the Vanquish I agree the 440 V10 is a much better choice than the 540 V12 for lightness. The V12 coil weighs 440g and the V10 only weighs 360g , this makes a big difference when sweeping the detector

I would have added the XP Orx to your list , because it is the lightest machine of the market and a very good detector . Then my proposal is the following : 1. XP Orx 800g 2. Garrett Apex 1.17kg 3. Vanquish 540 1.3kg with the V12 4. Simplex+ 1.4kg If I had to choose , I would just keep the Orx and the Apex for the final decision , because the Vanquish 540 and the Simplex+ are a little front heavy with their stock coils. It also depends on the kind of detecting that your wife plans to do ( inland , prospecting , beach , etc )... Just my opinion

I dont worry for ML , they sell a lot of Vanquish at least over here in France, this even without the GB ... 🙂

It would be interesting to know the percentage of users detecting on mild soils and those detecting on mineralized soils , this over the world. In Europe we have mostly mild soils . In the US and other continents I dont know ...

Yes the Apex is a very good detector , especially in the iron trash, which is a huge advantage for my kind of detecting . I just still have some concern about interferences that I solved last time by stopping the Apex , disconnecting /reconnecting the coil cable connector and restarting the detector. Hopefully it happened only once over 6 outings with the Ripper coil. Never had this kind of pb with a Vanquish for example .