You are so right . I have been enjoying this hobby since 1995 and I absolutely love it. There is nothing more exiting then that distinctive gold color in your scoop, although part of me wishes for the days when a wheatie penny used to me excited LOL. I am on Ricks list and I can guarantee that anyone who puts in the time to learn it will not pay a dime for the machine besides it brings out the mathematician in me: SMALL RINGS = BIG STONES Thanks Vic