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Hebrew symbolism for god ? Google Tetragrammaton explanation in many forms. Cool find!!!

On the 6th of June at the end of the day after a hunt that yielded a big 0, I ran across the street to my go to spot for a quick hour hunt before dinner. I hit a few clad coins and I told myself one more good tone and that is it. Well 5 min. later I got a 33-34 and after digging to 8 inches out popped a large copper (coin)? Little back story this place has yielded some nice colonial coins and other 19th century coins over the years and they are usually retrieved at an average depth of 7'' to 8''. After half ass field cleaning and sweat burning my eyes, I decided to go home and see what it is. Here is my dilemma, it looks like an early copper, feels like an early copper, BUT it has not a scant detail to say it's a certain type coin. The weird thing is that the rim is pretty defined an crisp, but the surface is smooth as silk. I always find some small detail on a coin. After weighing (12.33 grams) and measuring (31 mm) I went about trying to see what coins fit. The closest I found was a 1799 1/2 penny measuring (31 mm) and weighing (12.66 grams). I started to wonder why in such good shape that there was no detail front or back. Could it be an early planchet yet to be stamped? Or possibly counterfeit blank??  I need a little feedback on what you all think. This one has me guessing.

Raphis, Can you post a before and after pic with the peroxide treatment? Would love to see the results. I'm always looking for ways to clean my coins in a non destructive way.

23 hours ago, Joe D. said:

My main pinpointer that I love (Treasure Products Vibra-Probe 585), and have used for nearly seven years, has been practically indestructible! But still works great! No buttons, no adjustments, no speaker, vibrate only, and good to nearly 100 ft., but rarely goes any more than five feet deep! Works for me!! Apparently, I am one of the few using one!!?🤔

Joe, are sure that's a pin pointer????? Just asking for a friend. Not sure if your the only one using it, I hear they are pretty popular.

Joe, you explained it exactly right. Low oxygen deep in the soil and odd and complicated soil make for some coins to survive. Just a note, My deeper dug coppers 9'' to 10''+ are most always in better shape. 

The four original state coins are New Jersey, Connecticut, Vermont and Massachusetts. I have found the first three. 

I think the soil types, wet or dry can help or hurt old copper. Just guessing that it might be a PH thing. The key factor for me is being washed with water and then exposed to air.  I believe that it makes the surface more fragile. In my early days of hunting I would start out with a decent coin, Wash it and a week later it was unreadable and the surface was crusty. Not a chemist but air exposure might be the main factor. Since I stopped washing my coppers, I have ended up with much better coins.

I always dig jumpy 20 to 33 numbers usually a coin on edge. Could be silver or Copper, Sometimes good, most times crap.Just can't take a chance on passing up a decent coin. As of recent the 800 has been producing some great coins and rings with some weird numbers, But the tones do not lie. I always dig the tone, not the number. (thanks Tesoro!!!) Sometimes I get a faint really bouncy signal with a decent tone, That's when  I switch to pinpoint mode and dig. Again most times junk but you will hate yourself if you think you passed up a deep coin.

AS for cleaning the coppers. Just rub them on your glove or pants, Let them dry out and rub your face with your hands to pick up a little oil from your skin and massage the coin with your fingers. That's it. DO NOT CLEAN WITH WATER, You will end up with a ruined coin. A very small amount of coin grade mineral oil will sometimes help, But will darken the old coppers. Practice on a dud wheatie to see if you like the outcome. As for the silver coins, Water only!!! pat with a dry cloth. Rubbing, scrubbing and Tarnex are a no no. Rings when cleaning are less likely to be ruined. Clean and polish as you see fit. I have quite a few rings that never make it to be sold, Thanks to my wife. Just remember when in doubt leave it alone.

Can't imagine what the market share of another pinpointer would be, Maybe 3%. Doubt they would break even after two years. What Nokta needs to do is focus on the new MF and stop coming up with backpacks, holsters and god forbid another pointer. When sharks are in the water You don't cut yourself. I hate to say it but this is the reason why I jumped ship.

Ever since I got the 800 I've been killing some of my old sites. Silver is one of my favorite things to find and I get a big smile on my face knowing there is still more to be found.

Sometimes when the sites you think are lacking in finds, You end up finding a good day out. Nice job on the clad!!

Now you need a dog.

Pimento, Thanks for the clarification. I'll check out the site.

The Barber is by far one the best I have seen come out of the ground. It is now resting in a protective coin holder. The KG is paper thin and and has a little detail on the reverse but that one is in nice shape for my area.

Good job with the save, Everyone found is a piece of history that can be shared. Nice!!!!

I think you had a good day, Better than work!!!  What would life be like without a grommet collection Ha Ha.

Welcome BM, Glad to see you joined in on DP!!! I hope you share some of your finds with us, As I'm intrigued by the finds in other countries. Seems to be a tremendous amount of history in your country and I would love to know more about what you like to detect for and what you find. Happy Hunting.

Thanks GB, I can always count on you to give me the coin info. I'll pick up the guide book. I never thought that one was available. My two favorite coins are the merc's and the indian head penny's, they are just works of art. I wish you lived closer I would have you out for a run on some of these places. I wish you the best of luck the next time out!!!!

That stamped coin is a one of a kind find for sure, my heart did a little jump when I first saw the cross. I thought I was at Oak Island for a second Ha Ha. 

CVISChris The spoon is awesome !! I only realized what was on it when I washed it off. I thought it was some junky plated spoon. 

My guess is a Saint Benedict medal. Maybe an older one. They were made in and around 1740

Welcome AUG, Well if gold is what your after, you found the right forum. The gold people here will fill you in on anything your missing or want to know. Check out the DP database for a lot of great info, You will be surprised  at how much cool stuff is awaiting your discovery. So glad to have you!!!!

Good to have you here Arch, Glad your back at it!!!! And I'm really glad you joined up with this motley crew of of treasure hunters for some knowledge and info. As for the learning part, Heck we are all still learning and you'll fit right in!!!!

Welcome PH69, You made it this far, Don't be shy. Tell us a little more about yourself and what you use and detect for most of the time. DP is a great site and full of some awesome people. I'm sure all of us want to see your tag name more than just once or twice. Pretty sure you made a great choice with the forum and certainly I'm looking forward to your questions and posts.

Luckily I didn't dig one of their lamps, My wife would have a hell of a time trying to put it on her finger!!!