LukeJMG1986

53 minutes ago, UtahRich said:

24K gold has a melting point of 1948* F, 18K is 1675* F and 14K is 1550* K. 

Most current state laws requires cremation temps from 1400-1600* F, which fall short of 24K and 18K gold and may not reach 14K gold.

That said, the Cremation Association of North America guideline suggests that all cremation remains should pass thru a 1/4" screen after "process". 

And process is . . . . read for yourselves. . . . . 

https://www.cremationassociation.org/page/CremationProcess#:~:text=Laws for required temperatures vary,main chamber of the cremator.

I read a lot of stories of folks finding gold teeth beach hunting. I don't see a lot of gold teeth today, so perhaps these gold teeth remains are from a bygone era where family members retired remains to the ocean?

Anyway, i let you all chew on those thoughts for a while.

 

Rich

 

Thanks,

     An interesting read. It's hard to hammer down a specific answer on temperature, but what seemed to be universal from the various websites I looked at, was that any metal found in the cremated remains is removed, and usually recycled according to state guidelines. What I found intriguing was your idea of family member retiring remains in a body of water. This gold tooth was found by a decent size lake, and I wonder if some old miner was disposed of that way. It's really a shame the tooth can't talk. I should write a short story, and detail a skirmish between two lifelong buddies who leave their homes to go prospect during the gold rush, only to have their friendship severed by a large gold nugget they find by the lake. It will ultimately culminate in one prevailing over the other, killing him, and hiding the body, only for a metal detectorist to find a gold crown (which I'll have to reference in the earlier parts of the story) by that very lake over 100 years later.

On 9/10/2022 at 6:08 PM, Ausome said:

I am surprised that Too Tall, feels that it is okay to detect on claims that he

does not own.

     Oh no, Tim is a club member, and has rights to the claims. The guest pass he extended me was therefore legit. I apologize if that wasn't clear. I should also clarify that the gold crown I found was not on a claim. 

     I was invited onto the claims as a guest, but it was awkward for various reasons, and I pretty much avoided it. I will hit the claims in search of relics, and gold jewelry more thoroughly when I've paid the membership fee, and I'm back in town next year. 

15 hours ago, matt said:

It's probably a crown from a person who's family spread their loved one's ashes at the lake.

I actually looked into that to be sure. As it turns out, gold crowns don't survive cremation. Hypothetically a 24k gold crown could possibly survive the process, but gold crowns are alloyed with other metals due to the softness of gold. In this case I don't think it came from the ashes of a cremated person. It is definitely a mystery to me how it ended up there. Maybe a gold miner got robbed back in the day 🤷

18 hours ago, strick said:

Nice work...don't let them guys scare you off your not jumping their claim when looking for jewelry and the like...but what would you do if you thought your were digging a quarter signal with the nox and instead pulled up a 1 ounce gold nugget on their claim? would throw it back? give it to Ole Too tall Tim? what would Tim do with it once you gave it to him? just thinking out loud here... go out and have fun... you have been doing really well so far with your new hobby...and joining a club is a great way to meet people and get your foot in the door so to speak. 

strick 

Honestly, and people may think it's crazy, but if I found a 1 oz piece of gold on their claim I'd donate it to their organization, since they own the claim. I was under the guest pass though, so I suppose that would make me entitled to the find, while remaining in good conscience. In that case I'd probably get a membership. Truly, I would have already gotten a membership, but the process is a bit dated. You have to use actual paper, like the stuff they make out of trees, and send it in the actual physical mail, with this thing called a "check"

38 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said:

Do you have a scale to weigh it? 

     I actually do have a small digital scale. I haven't weighed it yet, but if I had to guess, I'd say 6-8 grams. Like the toy soldier, it's a weighty little tooth crown when you bounce it in the palm of your hand. Maybe I'll make a cool necklace out of it. I found a 14k chain at a tot-lot not too long ago. It would definitely make for a good talking piece 😁

34 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said:

Interesting figurine, too.  Toy soldier?

     I believe so. From the research my wife's grandfather did, he said that back in the late 1800s, to early 1900s there were these molds you could buy, and pour your own lead soldier toy, and then paint it. It has a lot of weight to it for the size, almost like a bullet, which leads me to believe it could be lead, possibly one of the "make it yourself" toys grandpa was talking about.

     I'm honestly not all concerned about more power. I'm in mineralized soil, and end up running the Equinox pretty low in terms of gain. I look for coins, rings, and jewelry usually, so I am excited about that 2D target ID system. I would like to see what people say about it when it goes out to the public. Ill have to see if it makes enough improvement over the Equinox to justify forking over 1600$. I need a back up machine, and I'd like to stick with Minelab, but as of right now, it is big-time marketing, and hype IMO. I pre-ordered a video game once, and the marketing, and hype had me convinced it would be the greatest game ever; I should have waited for it to come out, and read the consumer reviews.

On 8/28/2022 at 7:32 AM, midalake said:

I have looked at several different Vids scrolling through modes. I see 4 different beach modes? Anyone else see this? 

Also, can you use wired headphones? 

I would assume wired headphones would be a must for underwater detecting. Bluetooth dosent work we'll underwater (if at all), so a wired option would make sense. I'm hoping I can use the same waterproof headphones I use for the equinox 🤞

     Hey, thanks guys. It was definitely one of the deepest items I've found, and has me curious about what else might be waiting to be found in the deeper part of the river. I need a good dry suit because unfortunately I get real cold real fast.

Update: I did a little testing, and found that when I hook up the 6in coil, it will signal if it bumps anything. If I shake the coil side to side, or up and down, it signals. I hooked up the default 11 in coil, and nothing. This leads me to believe that there must be some kind of malfunction with the 6in coil.

On 9/29/2018 at 1:20 AM, CrainRacing said:

Heya everyone;

So I have a quick question about my Nox 800 with factory coil. 
When I bump the coil she falses, consistently at that.
When I have it right on the ground I have to be careful not to tap any rocks or bump the coil on the ground otherwise she falses. 

Is this normal or could I have an issue with my coil?

And for the Rattlesnakes, this big ol brute just about slithered over my feet tonight when I was loading the Nox back into the Jeep! 

Thanks everyone 🙂
 

 

I was just out at the river today, and this was happening with my 6 inch coil. It's would false on everything. It was even giving signals if I stopped, and pumped the coil like when you ground balance. It was especially pronounced in the water. I've had this detector 2 1/2 years or more, and it has never done this to this extent 🤷

On 7/8/2019 at 9:24 AM, AllenJ said:

I'm in Northern California and yes, that is my experience up here.  Our soil is all over the place, to the point that VLF's can be pretty much useless in certain areas due to mineralization.  I ended up getting a PI and the difference was unbelievable.  The PI won't see small gold nearly as good as the VLF but at least you're looking for gold and not digging up hot rocks and ghost signals!

I'm up in Northern California as well. While still a novice, this has also been my experience. It's tough ground to learn on!

6 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

If it's fresh drops you're after, the Detech Arrow coil may be the way to go.  You have several choices of detector then (but not the Equinox 😞).  However, if you want to stick with the tools you already have (Equinox with 11" stock and 6" DD's) then I defer to others here, just adding that unless you're in thick trash I would think the 6" stays on the sideline.

I would have to agree on the 6 in. I like it in trashy parks, but the river is just too big of an area. I was thinking of picking up the coiltek 14"×9" to cover even more ground. For now, the equinox is what Ill be using. Honestly, I've only been detecting since 2020. I've been reading books, as well as these forums. I have found a decent amount of gold, but I'm never sure whether or not there is something I could be doing better. I have been going with a Park 2, custom 5 tone program, that I switched to 4 tones (all metal). One tone for ferrous -9 threw 0, one tone for lows 1-10, one for mids, and one for highs. I put the F2 at 0 and usually use 6 or 7 for a recovery speed. Today I ran those settings with a gain setting of no more than 5 out of 25 (25 being the max setting) I will have to look into the coil you mentioned, along with other detectors, once I've truly mastered the equinox, and have a firm understanding of exactly how everything works, when to adjust settings, and what settings to adjust in any given situation. I have enough rings and a bracelet from the last two years to probably afford the deus 2, but I'm hesitant to pull the trigger being as how I'm just beginning to scratch the surface of the the equinox, and the hobby itself. I appreciate you reply! This has been the only forum I bookmarked in my browser because of the guys on here, that are willing to answer questions, and provide a welcoming atmosphere for newcomers!

Hey folks,

     I was reading this before my next shift, and was wondering, having only an equinox 800, and being solely focused on finding gold jewelry, or jewelry in general; What can I do to fine tune the equinox for the task? I primally hunt the river when it's toasty out, and parks if its cool out. I'm in Northern California where the soil can be moderate to hot. I have a 6in coil, and a standard 11in coil. 

     I have played around with the settings, read books, and took advice from other detectorists. One man told me to run my sensitivity low, as to focus on the fresh drops. Any advice, especially with regards to what will cause that gold jewelry to stand out more, would be greatly appreciated. 

     I love the forum, and hearing from you guys!

- Luke 

I noticed something one day, while metal detecting the river here in Northern California. I was getting a reading of 11-12, and in-between it would drop to -1 or lower. I decided to dig it anyways, and it was a orange nickel. I was curious as to why it gave a ferrous response that made me question whether to dig it or not. I buried the nickel again, and started investigating which setting, if any, was causing the nickel to give a ferrous response, and I found that I had been running the F2 iron bias at 4. When I reduced it to 2, it gave ALMOST no ferrous response, and when I cut it to 0 the nickel read clean 11-12. I honestly haven't hunted with it on since. I don't think this would effect gold jewelry, which is what I'm after. I think the corrosion on the nickel was causing the iron bias to help it give the ferrous response. I'm still pretty new at this, and so I could be way off. The ground I hunt in is also very mineralized, and I wonder how much that can also contribute to a good item, giving an occasional ferrous response coupled in with the non-ferrous. 

53 minutes ago, 2Valen said:

Most women  lose their rings in the water, while it seems the men lose their rings on the land, when doing fresh water areas such as creeks and lakes.

Dive into the water and get it for her.

     I gotta get some waterproof headphones so I can bring the equinox down. I actually found all four of those in the water! I want to hit the spots the canoes flip

10 hours ago, Skullgolddiver said:

Welcome on board!

Golden days are what push You to do it again and again...And when You go back home without gold, roasted meat and a good icy beer can solve the problem soon...

Thanks to this theory since last september, including quarantine, I gained 20+kg more than my usual weight💀😩😩

Hahaha, I like that, I had roasted meat tonight 😕. It helped a hole lot with my lack of gold for the day. I have a great time wading through the water anyhow!

10 hours ago, midalake said:

Man I would go back to that spot ASAP!  Good Job! Jealous too, I have never dug a Palladium Ring!

I had never even heard of it! I thought PD950 was some type of European Hallmark for gold or silver. It's a neat metal, and beautiful to boot.

12 hours ago, Joe D. said:

Great job Luke,

  You may just get the rest of the family hooked on detecting! Those would be the really great family outings! Keep up the good "work"! Thanks for sharing the story!👍👍

 

My boys are 4 and 5. I tried letting them use my old Bounty Hunter Tracker VI but they a still a tad short lol. They will definitely be coming with me when they get a little taller. They already want to. Im trying to get my wife on board. Fingers crossed

8 hours ago, GB_Amateur said:

Well done!  Palladium (a member of the Platinum Group Metals = PGM) has been above $2000/ozt most of the year with a high of around $2800 before the Virus took hold.  Even right now it's value is still higher than gold.  Will be interested in the weights you get after getting home from vacation.

Always good to make such finds when still in early learning mode -- gives you a lot of confidence.  In the meantime, you've obviously found a detector's garden spot so make the most of your time remaining there and show us even more loot!

 

     I will definitely post anything else I find. I just purchased a digital scale online to get an idea of the weight. The pallidium ring was definitely for a large man. It did give a little confidence boost, but even more so, unbridled joy. 

18 hours ago, phrunt said:

Nice post and story to go with it, thanks!  a 4 ring day is incredible.

It was thrilling! I'm glad you liked the story, I enjoyed writing it. Now to remind myself that's not the norm lol

18 hours ago, 2Valen said:

Congrats on your finds, and good luck on your next hunt.

Now all you have to do is to find a nice diamond for your wife.

Ya, lol shes itching for a nice lady ring. I was surprised they were all men's rings.