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No I would intend using it on wet sand beaches for gold rings, so what would you recommend?

I was thinking the very same last night, even better they made one for the tdi. I have being looking for a 14" for my tdi but by the time you get one shipped from the US to Europe and put customs duties on top they are just to pricey.

Maybe a better alternative to the Deus shaft http://www.ebay.ie/itm/New-Universal-Golden-Mask-Telescopic-Handle-/261830394273?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cf64ec1a1

Good work Auminesweeper.

I am looking for a good used one but if it comes to buying a new one that's good news. Is that from White's UK or one of the Dealers?

Republic of Ireland.

Cheers lads, I was thinking the TDI was the way to go. Next thing is trying to find someone who is prepared to sell one and ship it internationally. So if anyone wans to sell one please let me know.

I am in the market for a pi detector for beach hunting. I cant afford new so used will have to do me. The TDI Pro is at the top of my list but I do have a chance of picking up a good GP3000 with DD coil at the right price. I know that the Minelabs are not to fond of salts so I am wondering would the GP compare in performance, depth wise to a TDI?

As far as I know all xpointers are PI's. Bought one a while back and thought it was a very poor product. It would go through a 9v battery every day I used it, in fact I am still using the so called dead batteries in my Garrett for the past 6 months. It drove my CTX, Deus and F75 mad. The threads on the cap sheared more or less straight away. Deeper than the Garrett but its sensitivity to small targets was very bad, it would not sound off on foil, hot rocks and coke, nothing worse than your detector saying their is a target there and the pointer will not respond to it. Out of 4 units that I know of bought by friends and I, 3 of them were sent back with problems. In all very poorly made Chinese product.

Don't know if it was conceived before the GPX was released as it was very hush hush within Minelab it self. They certainly had it squeezed into the CTX frame even before the CTX was released. Totally agree that responsibility to shareholders is more important than loyalty to its customers for Minelab and that's how the corporate world works. As for the competition, Minelab has the other manufacturer bent over backwards for years with its approved patents blocking the rest, but looking at the latest patents from Whites, their new tech looks very similar to that of the GPZ and maybe more conducive to discrimination makes you think twice, was it a rush job. On the other hand, when you see that AKA are very close to introducing a multi frequency detector and XP have one in the pipeline as well, are we finally going to see Minelab's dominance in that market coming to an end as well. Minelab never considered that the XP Deus was going to be a threat at all but around 75% of all relic hunters in the UK and Europe are using them now, and they are making great roads in the US as well. Alain Loubet of XP promised to wipe the smile off Minelab's face, how right was he? The thing is, are Whites and others going to give Minelab a kick in the ass as well?

There are over 30 GPX's for sale on ebay, most of them in Australia and not one of them are selling, so if the GPZ is all it is cracked up to be I can see the prices of the GPX's plummeting even further as nobody will want them. In fact there was one on sale in France on ebay last week and the owner pulled the plug on the sale hours before it ended as it had only reached €1020 ($1160), maybe you will see a lot of GPZ's end up in Relic or Beach hunter's hands.

What is don't understand is why it does not have any sort of discrimination? For starters it measures the target response in the time domain so it should at least be possible to have a GPX type of discrimination? Secondly, since it transmits a VLF type signal, even though it is an alternating VLF type signal, should this tech not lend itself to some sort of VLF discrimination as well? The GPZ's closest living relative is Minelabs FBS/BBS units or Whites multiple frequency units, which have excellent discrimination, surely ZVT tech is very conducive to proper discrimiation? Asking these questions to myself leads me to further questions, 1 Did Minelab rush the GPZ onto the market before another Manufacturer released their new tech? or 2 Are Minelab planning to squeeze more $ from its customers by introducing it at a later date?

I have being following this thread for a little while now with a lot of interest. Good work Steve. At this point I thought I might have a little input. Have to considered what batteries you are going to use in the striped down version. I was thinking that using 3*16850 LI-ion batteries over the 8*AA rechargeable's would save about 1/4lb in weight. This leads me to my next question, has any one done any performance tests with regard using the rechargeable's v's alkalines, or what is the max permitted voltage will the ATX take? I am thinking would increasing the voltage actually increase performance depth wise like the way it increases the performance on the TDI? Niall, Ireland.