CaptainCoinSpill

It was on a sub forum on here...pretty heated debate I tried to find the post but gave up. He was trashing the EQ pretty good I believe even Tnhunter dealt with him. I agree this forum is solid for sure. Sinclair I may not have but 40 hours on this machine but I’ve been swinging for 27 years. I acknowledged That every situation is different. There isn’t any doubt this machine can do it all and do it well!

GPZ 7000 😂jk...jump all over the 400 at $100. That’s a slam dunk right there.

If you are gold prospecting then the 6” would be the coil of choice for sure(and tight spaces although not significant to me) . Now...6 x 10” elliptical was by FAR my favorite coil on the 705. That is the one coil I would want to acquire if it ever came available for the EQ that would be a killer tool.

Tom I’ve been saying the exact same thing. This 11” picks every good target out of the ground and my area is stuffed with trash. I don’t see a need for a 6”. Ive put 40 hours on this machine and it Is simply amazing. I feel I’m breaking through and have no need to add another coil. To me you just get a little more mass or less mass when swinging the alternate coils and that’s it...not enough of a significant impact to make the acquisition in my opinion. Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing at all. HH

I see...I guess I read to many posts and reviews sometimes. Now that I have about 40 hours on this eq 600, I’m more confident and excited than I’ve ever been since I started swinging in 1992. Anyone that knocks the EQ just don’t know how to properly become one with the machine or has alterior motives. I’ve seen quite a few ridiculous debates the last few weeks(I won’t mention his name) and it irritates me because people trying to figure out what machine to go with may be turned off due to a rogue goofy view. Anyways, I appreciate all of your passion and help and I never thought I would find a board this good! It has increased my learning curve twice fold and I can’t wait to get back out tomorrow! I wish I could give back the time and tips I have received because it means a lot!

Yea I just noticed that when I got home...I pack into my Minelab bag and have to compress the lower rod To fit it and didn’t notice it caused it to get loose like that. I can tell someone hammered this park because all I pulled up was nickels(13)...5 freaking quarters, 6 dimes in trash, and a truck load of pennies in trash. This machine is amazing now that I figured the fat nickels out, I’m branching out to other lower conductive targets. I see no need for the 6” coil at all this stock coil picks every good target out no matter the trash. I’m getting close to having this beast down. Everyone talking about the apex and have forgot about the EQ already. I do various depth tests every hunt and I’m consistently hitting: dime at 10”, penny at a foot, and quarters at 14” and all those #s are hitting plenty dig strong. HH

Breakthrough! I’ve crushed 9 fat nickels in my first hour of hunting and this is what I’ve found out. When you hook into a small target and it jumps 12-13 the key to nickels is to have the vdi at 13 MOST of the time. 75% or so on average and every target so far has been a nickel. I went from one nickel to 10 in one hour and every target held true to that. Of course everyone’s soil is different but I have a feeling this holds true for many. GB_Pro and I are going thru this life one nickel at a time😁

I'll let you in on a secret, as long as you don't tell anyone. Agree? (Whispering:) They've been out there too! That’s funny stuff right there .,,, lol as I’m sitting in my truck before I swing next to a creek lmao.

Oh believe me I’m not trying to focus on an income here...it’s pure passion and enjoyment regarding our hobby. I make plenty of $ with my business. Many people probably think we are insane getting a $1 or $2 an hour in the 95 degree heat(it’s hot here). For me it’s the thrill and the challenge of the hunt! I like to hook into something unknown that will produce unknown results. GB I don’t like that secret very much and you have saddened me☹️Lol. I do still feel there are places in central Texas because no one else detects around here...most people look at me like an alien around here. Your bad news may be the case...but I’m smarter than the rest and will up the ante with research with old maps, getting wet in obscure places, and out working the rest. GB_Pro you better stop being mean to me😉

I hate hearing about most of of the good finds being stripped away over time. That is why I’m taking to the water...to me that’s the new frontier.

Oh wow you are so lucky to be north of France! I’m obsessed with ww2... I’ve always wanted to come to that area and actually dig ww pieces...it’s always been my top preference location wise. I watch a few hours of ww2 documentaries probably every other day or so...everything I can get my hands on. You are right at the end of the day we Just have to think out of the box and find the best locations. I’m getting a little tired of typical parks it may be time to knock on some doors and take some chances...I just feel goofy bothering people😔

Excellent response Joe I really appreciate it and your situation fits mine to the T! I think the early vdi # dig and transition to more a cherry pick mentality will be my strategy. Also wow on the pennies...my first 15 good targets were all modern pennies...the EQ clearly would vote for Lincoln! I love when I hook into a quarter at 28 or 29 because it really is clear...just like dimes and above. I don’t get these people on a rampage saying the I’d sucks on these machines(I read a back and forth debate on another posting). I feel it is the best I’ve ever had...I simply know what coin is there(except for nickels). So I’m going to dig 12-13 and Of course the high conductors...and dig singles and some teens the first hour or so in my hunt. I’ll go from there. Also great hunt Joe you cleaned up on the clad...now if we can just get that 30 something tone and sink into some quality silver we will be in the drivers seat!

My bad I didn’t see your response till after I replied to Pal let me analyze and reply...sorry. Ok so after looking at your ratio trash wise maybe I just need to suck it up and dig more trash. My ratio is 50-50 actually probably more like 60% good coins vs 40% trash. Guess that puts me on the extreme side of the trash scale. I have gotten pretty fast at recovering a target(usually under 30 secs) so I may just have to dig the 12-13 target regardless. Maybe some single digits too depending on the interrogation of the target.

I can certainly understand your viewpoint regarding the notching. I must say that I think the level of trashiness here in central Texas is a real extreme comparing most places in the world...especially in the UK I suspect. You see, most people have little to no respect here and feel nature is one big trash can. Maybe I need to make a quick video showing my plight and throw in on here just to drive home how bad it is. It literally is almost impossible to find open ground to balance. Yes I know that is impossible and you are right but it takes a real act to find that open piece. I may just have to live with 20 plus on the disc mode until I can find better soil to swing in. Of course I hate that but at this point I don’t feel I have an option.

Well consider this an update to the original issue and consider it solved. Once I reset the machine and fine tuned all the settings multi is certainly deeper, vdi #s more stable and accurate, and more decisive when I hone in on a target. I swung for 3 hours earlier and feel I’m finally breaking thru! I know everytime what coin I’m over and depth 95% of the time. I’ve learned to raise and lower coil as I attack from each direction as I execute a proper interrogation of the target. I only have one semi issue that bothers me. Everytime I start my hunt I dig single #’s, teens, and of course the 20 plus good tones. I’ve learned to dodge the can slaw and most pull tabs by proper execution of obtaining info on the target. To the people that say the vdi #s are all over the place blah blah blah all I can say is you haven’t become one with the machine. I pretty much call every good target as I pinpoint to the point I can pop it with a gasket remover. Now to the possible last issue as referenced just now. Every target under 20 has been rubbish for me...I keep 12-14 open and have found one freaking nickel..this is after I tighten the disc. Every half swing in my ground I get 3-5 decent low vdi #s and a third is repeatable to the point I’ll dig. Well...after spending my first hour pulling up trash I tighten my disc up to 20 plus and 12 to13 open only...I simply can’t get anywhere if I’m digging a bunch of crap the whole time. This happens everytime and yes I consider my location...if I’m on the beach I’m digging it all as well as a top shelf virgin location. I have quite a conundrum because this scenario unfolds every time I start swinging in my old baseball field and parks in my little town. Once I get out into the field and the trash thins out I feel a lot better overall and will open it back up....but constant low trash #s cause me to tighten the discrimination. Early on I feel I’m going against professional protocol closing in the disc. and that makes me sad. Would most of you pros do the same or continue to dig the many repeatable and small low #s even though they are almost always rubbish? I don’t know which way to go because I have to get my coil over quality vs a small patch of crap. I pulled in $5 in clad in a couple of hours and did decent overall...smoked a 9” dime but no oldies even though this baseball field is the same layout as the aerial 1958 map I analyzed earlier. I can’t believe I haven’t hooked into any oldies here yet even as I dig 6-9” thru out my hunt. Please advise.

Awesome thanks so much...once I get it I’ll def give you a ring!

Nice thanks for the info. I plan to run auto tune and not use the pinpoint. I’ve researched almost every article or video out there and I like the 3 tone simplicity of the machine. Plan on using this in deep water and the EQ on land and shallow water. I can’t wait to fire it up and see what it can do!

Besides sealing the pinpoint button with waterproof silicone...what would you recommend to secure the battery compartment? I may get lucky and it will be fine but I doubt it. What if I siliconed the edge everytime and just cut it open each time? I know the batteries last a long time so I wouldn’t mind doing that.

Man that is really sad! I still have the Prizm which my kids love! I always loved the way they were made and the ease of operation. They were always in the convo when I was looking for a high end machine. You can see by all the new tech we are at a crossover point in our hobby. The DEUS really got the really competitive brands moving to catch up or accel. White’s, like Steve said above, never moved forward from the V3I and some of the other great units they made YEARS AGO. For us detectorist...we are in a golden time but I’m bummed out over White’s that is for sure.

So I got a good deal on the cz20 as I’ve been looking to start diving and swinging. I only have a few questions. Some of my research has said the pinpoint button has leaking issues? In your opinion is something to be concerned about? If so, should I silicone over it or do a seal refurb? I started at 13 years old with the M scope 1235x and loved it. I saw this purchase as a way to grab a hold of that old magic. I remember seeing this unit in the brochure and thinking how much I’d like to try that high dollar beast! Now thanks to a good seller on here I’ll have that chance! Any other tips, tricks, or general aspects I should entertain would be greatly appreciated! Glad to be back in the Fisher club!

Absolutely...you can research till you are blue in the face, but unless you get out and put the time in you will never truly be proficient. I detect every other day on average... since I work from home. I learned the 705 after hours and hours of swinging...I’ll do the same with the EQ and then some. However I must say I’ve never had a multi MHz machine before, so it is a different ball game in many aspects. I’ll be honest...I thought i would learn it fast. Learning curve is more than I anticipated. I’m off to hook into a coin spill! Thanks so much you are awesome!

WOW...that’s all I can say to that synopsis! You should seriously consider writing a book, because that is some of the best analysis I’ve read. I LOVE THIS SITE! The linear scale regarding the quantity of trash to dig is right on! I also understand the nuances and the aspects that aren’t explainable when getting proficient with our machines. With the 705 I knew exactly what was under the coil...I already know what modern clad I have under my coil with the EQ. I did not know about the TID #s changing in relation to the part of the coil. I do look at the coil as a slice down the middle and that’s my focus...however the changing TID #s off the slice do cause me to come off of certain targets...even after intense interrogation. I can tell if it’s a deep target by the tone and the other classic signs. The issue I’m having Is I’ll move to execute a verification Of the target and it’s not there...or it seems to move. I have to figure out when to dig one way targets and when not too. I assume it’s other trash in the target range when I get jumping goofy #’s...but I feel i waste time trying to figure out if it’s worth digging. I’ve already gave up on nickels...I feel I need to get off of that mentality but i simply get sick of digging crap...guess I’m on the right end on the scale but that does depend on my location. The am radio Reference is again, a homerun example. You have me ready to get swinging! Awesome synopsis GB_PRO😄

Anyone have a 6” for sale on here? Should I ask this in the selling section?

First off thanks for taking the time out of your evening and the detailed response to the issues I’m having...I really do appreciate that more than you know. I’ll address each point one by one. I run 5 tones, and ran that high of disc because I couldn’t move without digging shredded cans and various pull tabs and beer caps. If I was on an old relic site I would run it open for sure. All the places that I have to hunt are stuffed with trash. I’ve never ran pinpoint to GB this is the first I’ve heard of it. Now I run it def more open although I haven’t dug a good target under 20...just seems like nothing is decent in this one horse town regarding low conductors. High tones is all that produces anything and believe me I dig A LOT! I interrogate the heck out of every target switching from 5 to multi and back at every angle. Most of the time multi didn’t even see the target I got from 5 mhz and they were good digs. I believe the higher disc adversely affected multi big time...at least in my case it was clear. I typically run fe2 and speed at 2 as well. I’ve toggled the two of them and def see the difference although no difference in depth and id to me. To me there isn’t much way of getting around digging shredded aluminum due to the various shapes and thickness. I’m decent at listening to the sounds but some times I can’t tell if it’s trash aluminum. I still have more to learn on this machine for sure. In the am...I’m leaving for Galveston and hitting the beaches for two full days. Hopefully I’m proficient enough to make it happen! Thx again!

Wow that is an incredible response! I think you pretty much summed up a lot of my concerns in a few points. First I realize I had a crazy high disc and once I opened it up multi was back to normal and 5 kHz was actually a bit deficient(but not by much). Second, once I opened up the disc I started having emi issues...guess what was 10 yards next to me? Huge power line. So the disc covering the emi aspect hits 100% home in my case. In addition, once I lowered my sens to 20 I seemed to get less moving targets and better ID across the board. I hooked into a coin spill shortly after. The trash that is everywhere are beaver tails, beer caps, and foil but not as bad as the former two. I haven’t adjusted the tone level and cut off yet so I think that is my next move. I also want to get the 6” coil but in the meantime I feel I can still separate well with the 11” due to what I have seen. I also get a high tone flash one way on a swing and then nothing when I swing the other way? Sometimes I’ve went over and over and dug and mostly is it some weird iron. However, I pulled two wheaties that were 9” or so in the scenario as well. On my past machines if you here a weird crackle or anomaly on the tones on target then that was an indication of trash? Does the same hole true on our powerhouse? Or is that not so much ironclad vs single vlf machines?