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I've hunted that same beach twice in the last 3 days and the majority of what I found was dimes.  There are a lot of zincs and a few quarter but it is not much of a jewelry beach right now.  That little cut was made by the wind waves and it can change at any time but today I took a break.

Yesterday when I was there a guy took an electric bike that you rent into the surf.  He laid it down and then he went for a 'swim' with all his clothes on.  He was loaded or something.  He came back to the bike after about 10 minutes and laid next to the bike and waves were washing over him.  I couldn't let this continue so I propped up my detector and went over to him.  He didn't want me to help him.

I called 911 and waited for someone to show up.  In the mean time another guy went to help and this guy got him and the bike out of the surf.  This was right in front of a life guard station and a life guard who was in his truck.  They apparently knew him.  The other good Smartian got him up to about where you see the detectorist in the pictures above and the police showed up.  I told them I had called and I was told if they had any questions they would come to me if I was still working the area with my detector.

After about 20 minutes of talking to the guy they just left.  The guy refused help from them also.  He was wet, his pants coming off and he was just out of it but they have lots of guys like that that refuse help.  I had been reluctant to try and help him and this is why.  He is not ready and with the drugs he is on he may never be ready.

There are a lot of things that can be said about Los Angeles and Los Angeles County.  Much of it is bad right now but we do have some very good things from the past that are still World Class.  One of them is the Natural History Museum.  It is part of the whole complex around the University of Southern California and Exhibition Park.

I've been several times and there is still much to be seen.  A permanent exhibit that interests most of us here is about gold.  I've got a link and then some pictures I took.  Maybe you will see something in the link that will have you explore more online.

Discovering Gold: Exploring the California Gold Rush | Natural History Museum (nhm.org)

Here are my pictures I took in December 2023.

Detectorists and dealers can be a competitive lot and few of us hold a grudge, but we have long memories of hunts gone by.  Sharing some of that knowledge and passing it on to others is a personal choice.  Many don't share.

From my perspective Rob, Gerry, Steve, JP, Norvic, Simon and many others share a lot.  It makes us all better to hear different perspectives about different areas.

We're potentially fighting over the last scraps of gold so let's get out there and get some.

6 hours ago, phrunt said:

I think the people that can't afford a GPX 6000 or 7000 are going to end up with a pretty good detector for their money with the Algoforce,

What would you estimate the total market to be for the E1500?  Is it 10,000, 25,000, 50,000 units or more?  How many of us want one now?  How many of 'us' are there?

I don't know how many 800s sold or 7000s or 5000s or XPs or any detectors including Bounty Hunters.  I'd probably be surprised.  Everyone is saying that this E1500 (is it named after this original $1500 US price?) is more affordable and will have a bigger market.  It is all good.  

I wonder for a couple of reasons.  One is just how much of a task is it to contract up the manufacturing and the second is related ... when will that mean there will be one of these detectors available that I can buy?  If there is going to be a long waiting list (already is) and the number of units produced per month is low then it could be a long time before most of us get one, right?  Even longer than just the FCC approvals.

5 minutes ago, phrunt said:

I believe it's powered by one of these

If it powers that car you were talking about then I'm going to put together 3-4 and power my house and the electric heaters!

15 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Only $7500 or $5500 on sale!

 

I would buy one but I like more moving parts when I spend that much money.  If I can't see something moving and have big arrows and balance beams then I've paid too much!

The 6000 can find large nuggets too!

Thanks for posting.

13 hours ago, Nedkelly said:

I used to put heat shrink over the cable and shaft with my favourite coils. Permanent solution,  but I had plenty of lower shafts back then. 

Now with only the 1 lower shaft for my 6000 and 1 for the E15000 something more temporary is needed.

Typo ... E15000

58 minutes ago, Ridge Runner said:

With all the excitement going on about this new detector we may find out how low Minelab can sell the 6000 .

 I really don’t believe Minelab is happy about this and find it harder they’ll do nothing.

 This is the best thing for all us customers is heavy competition between detector companies.

 Chuck 

Someone needs to give us an 'estimate' of hardware costs for the components of these detectors.  What percentage of the final sales price is it?  We will then know a bit more about the R&D 'mark-up' associated with the final price which has to include profits.  Without profits there won't be any follow-up or service deep pockets to correct problems.

I buy phones that are in the $100-$150 range that brand names like Apple and Samsung sell for $800 plus.  This means that the components must only cost $20-30 ... $50?

Simon,

Glad to know you recovered and will give it a go again under better conditions.

You found two little pieces in a flogged area.  How do you explain them?  (missed or unseen)

5 hours ago, Gerry in Idaho said:

But the added features it provides, the multiple of affordable coil selections and it's ergonomics will shine.  If we find some gold at Rye Patch, then we also know it will shine in other less hunted areas.

If there is any detector that will find a significant amount of gold at Rye Patch then the price is relatively unimportant to someone like me.  I want to go out and find gold.  I bought a $1500 X-coil so that I could do that with the 7000 and I think it is money well spent.

We are at the end of the gold in places like Rye Patch and I still haven't found a chevron.  I've found missed pieces in our local areas when I get out.  Some guys who get out often are still finding a few nuggets here and there.

We've got some patches down here that had a 'lot' of little gold 4-5 years ago but it's gone now.  We can't find any with the VLFs, the 7000s, 2300s and the GPXs.  If an AlgoForce can find some there it won't be because of its price.  It will be because it has the right stuff.  No doubt it could have found a lot of the gold found by previous detectors and we can prove that by using some of that gold as test nuggets in those patches.

I'm with Gerry.  This detector just seems to have some different features and some new PI views.

Now, how can dealers make a buck?  Gerry will provide training with his experts.  Just my thought when you buy something as a direct sale to consumer.

1 minute ago, Aureous said:

Ummmm....test specks <Reg Approves> 😉 

Let's see what Reg uses to test his!

Thanks Simon.  You do your testing.

You can't respond here and test at the same time.

Jeff,

You have been involved with updating detectors, right?

I'm betting that AlgoForce plans to listen to the users and tweak the units as necessary.  That being said, your SDC comparison would seem to put it on a standard that many of us understand and tweak it to be as good ... maybe better.

45 minutes ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Had a dealer friend make an inquiry and sounds like they are nowhere near ready to sell in the U.S.

Consider the massive investment in inventory required to go from 'mom and pop engineers' to global marketing mavens.  The 'fun' part for them may be the development of the detector.  They are surely going to have to bring on someone that lives, sleeps and breathes marketing if they want to get tens of thousands of machines sold.  

What pieces of the company would they have to give away and more importantly their control.

Does someone have deep pockets you want to help them out with and not charge a premium?  haha  That would make the price go up.

8 hours ago, Aureous said:

I might be on the 2nd batch list.

Better to be on the list and cancel than ...

On 4/19/2015 at 6:46 AM, boulder dash said:

I spent most of my life hiking in the superstitions and have also done much research in the Lost Dutchman.

The Lost Dutchman Mine | News & Stories | arcadianews.com

I'm anxiously awaiting Simon's tests.  His insanely mild soil reviews are a standard now.

You have to have a detector that can find what is left in the known gold patches.  The E1500 and my X-coils have a chance at it if you learn to use them.  Both of them seem to be pushing conventional detecting to new limits.

No doubt the ergonomics of the E1500 are superior to the 7000.   That and the price will bring back the fun factor for people to get the remaining bits.  

After these machines deplete the fields will my sons be able to look forward to more detectors that will consistently break the .01g barrier in 5-6 years?

Lately as I drive around Google Maps tells me that the GPS signal is lost.  Has anyone experienced this?

I've been in touch with my phone manufacturer (Blu) and they have had me clear the cache and memory but I'm still having problems.  My son has been using my phone lately to play games so it may have been dropped.  I've never had a problem with these phones before.

It is recommended that I install another program that uses GPS and I have added a couple.  One is called Compass & Altimeter by PixelProse SARL.  I like that it is a simple compass but it also lists sunrise and sunset daily.  I need to go out and drive around to see if it loses GPS signal.

Yes, the crowd is jumping up trying to catch the home run ball!

45 minutes ago, Nedkelly said:

Wow that was a quick reply. Algoforce just send an email back saying they will send a replacement upper shaft out and when I receive it to send the faulty one back to them. 

Or if I want to fix it independently they will give me $230 off another detector if a friend wants to buy one. ( currently out of stock )

Also open to other suggestions to resolve this issue. 👍

They sound ideal.  There could not have been a better response.  Things happen with quality control, and they want the part back, but they want the customer satisfied.

On 1/26/2024 at 10:19 AM, Steve Herschbach said:

I am shocked, stunned, and amazed that everyone seems to be skating past that this machine is offering the first 0-99 conductive target id ever offered in a real PI.

I'm getting this conductive scale confused with IDing.

Hear (pun intended) is my update.

Tonight, I went out as I have several times in the past couple of weeks with the Costco hearing aids.  They are Jabras as Jamie above has.

The first couple of times I used them I was not impressed.  My previous hearing aids were more comfortable and sounded better.  They just couldn't stay in my ear.  Since I returned them I've talked with some people who use Air Pods and they put a little foam tip on to keep them in their ears.  That should have been offered to me but wasn't.

Going back to the Jabras, I went back to Costco and they gave me some new cups and that has made a big difference.  I can use them with the headphones and feel comfortable.   The hearing aids also stay in because of a little 'tail' that uses the outer ear to keep them from sliding out.  You also use the tail to pull the hearing aids out of the ears.

I can still use the detector without the hearing aids and I think get 90% of the hearing but if I really slow down the hearing aids help.  The Jabras are a little bit tinty as I would say and I think they have more to do with volume than quality of sound.  There is an adjustment for frequency which I've lowered the power on the high and mid and that has helped the target sounds not sound scratchy.  I can hear the electric clock in our dining area ticking which I can't do without the hearing aids in.

Sometimes that is not such a bad thing when you have a couple of young kids!

Costco gives me 6 months to use them and still get a full refund.  I'll come back here and let everyone in on my experiences from time to time.

I just got in from a beach hunt.  My question is going to be, "How will it ID a zinc penny that is broken, bubbled, corroded and cracked?"

Will it do any better with a tent stake in heavy black sand?

As I was detecting I began to think of the phrase TGTBT (Too Good To Be True).  We do need a detector that will tell us exactly what the targets are ... kinda like an XRF.  I hope this does it and reduces some of the excess digging on beach hunts but it's not going to make good targets show up by itself.