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Thanks for the travelogue and finds display. I bet the best part was meeting & enjoying the other people.

It is also nice to see that other people hunt my kind of sites where a coin is a special find along with lots of interesting "junk", most of which I happily keep!

Very good to know. Thanks for the explanation.

Does this instability from not running any applied Disc effect all VLF platforms or is it unique to XP? Same question regarding the down averaging caused by nearby ferrous.

Seems like you are both working well together.

The Garrett CX line were top of the line in their day, I will always keep my CXII for using the 2 Box Bloodhound to hunt bottle dumps. The static All Metal mode on them is still quite deep even compared to modern detectors. The Motion Discriminate is no match for what is available today but still works fine for modest depth & trash levels, Nice 2 tone audio & split disc settings. A little heavy but balances well. NEL makes a DD coil that is compatible. I may order one some day for testing. Over all a fun detector in the proper site they will still find treasure.

That's a great weekend for sure.

They do sound good to me.

I have MS 2's for back ups for both my wireless detectors. They sound very good. I read some where they use 32-34 ohm speakers.

I know on the AT Max the proportional audio is best at max volume(8) on the detector & adjust the separate headphone volume to what is wanted. And yes, NM should have a volume control on the wireless headphones. What am I missing having to keep the detector volume below 3? 

I too would like to see Concentric coils available for Garrett's new Multiflex.

50 minutes ago, Jacza said:

I don't expect too much from this multifrequency machine. With the Kruzer and Anfibio series (I own a Multi Kruzer) NM has even not managed to implement a simple noise filter, so 3 tone mode with 14 kHz is working good, but all other modes suffer from chattering (also 5 and 19 kHz) on normal conditions. It's so bad that you won't use these modes in the long run. And in 3 tone you can only work above gain 90 because below there is an hidden "ultra fast" mode which has less depth.

 

If you will experiment with the other Modes with modest Gain settings(50-70) I think you will find the detector will run stable AND have surprising depth & target resolution. Each mode IS different in how it handles EMI, mineralization, & Iron falsing. When you add to this the selection of Frequency & coil choices it is a very capable detector in a wide range of scenarios.

Somebody lost their coat!

The signal processing is the key to useable performance,

Sometime after NM releases their Flagship SMF/SSF detector I think we will see their rejoinder to the Vanquish & Ace Apex lines.

I too think we will be surprised at NM's approach and application of SMF on their new detector. I feel they are following their own vision but also drawing on what has come before, taking the best aspects & melding it to that vision. I think they are taking their time to get it right. I also think the final product will be much more than they started out with on the drawing board. This is based on current performance & a past history of being able to adapt to consumer suggestions quickly. They also do not seem to be boxed in on their thinking & product vision. Young & hungry can cover a lot of ground. I am also hoping some of the ideas & improvements will transfer over to the Anfibio line as updates.

I have not run a Deus. I do know how to set up and hunt heavy iron sites in both low mineral & high mineral ground, moist & dry conditions with the Anfibio Multi. It does extremely well for me. You do have to be willing to dig the signals that are less than perfect. This is relic hunting & I want anything that is not a nail or small piece of Zinc Mason jar seal. Coil, frequency & mode selection are important considerations based on site conditions.

I agree. Figuring out a find and the site is a lot of the fun.

It is called a double shovel. Used on a push plow to make furrows in the garden. I use mine all the time in my garden with different attachments.

On 9/17/2020 at 6:51 PM, Redneck said:

Thanks Kitz, thats the answer I was looking for. Lots of nuances in the audio.  I just placed an order for the X. I need a good " in the iron" machine.  Also getting the 6 x 8 and 14".

Wanting to know how well you & the Vista X are doing. I have really enjoyed mine in similar sites as you mentioned.

It is always fun to imagine the story your finds might have. Often times instructive too.

All good stuff. Interesting how a different coil will see a target differently.

It will be interesting to see how NM addresses this tendency on their MF offering.

From my point of view in the real world, I'm glad there still seems to be some passion for detecting in many of the current manufacturers. Here in the USA and especially by some of the up & coming overseas makers. People make the difference in the products.

Jeff, is the up averaging on low & mid conductors a problem on your Simplex? How well does it handle your mean ground?

Those appear to be of excellent craftsmanship. A real prize indeed.