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Thank you to all for the helpful insights. My next step in learning how best to hunt in my more mineralized sites is to build a new small test garden in some 3-4 Bar(out of 5 bars) ground. It may well prove more educational than my Sandy 0-1Bar test garden.

Did you guys have any success experimenting with adjusting the first tone break or using Beach mode on your Iron sites?

I bet all your fish have teeth! Welcome.

At some point in the past I read that Charles Garrett and his team actually documented ground conditions in many locations around the world. This is probably common among detector manufacturers. Would be interesting to see an accurate presentation.

Can you correlate the readings of the Kruzer and Racer? #Bars on Kruzer to % on the Racer?

Yes, the owners manual is vague on the subject. It describes Ground Mineralization by Ground Balance ranges. Some of my hunting sites are deep sandy soil that gives at most 1 Bar on the scale and Ground Balances in the mid 50's. I know this is mild. Some other sites are red dirt over red clay and will give 3-4 Bars on the scale and Ground Balance at 68-74. I am trying to get a idea of the relative soil mineral intensity. The goal being having a gage on the effect it has on the detector's performance and learning how to adapt to the different ground conditions. I think it would be helpful to me to know my 3 Bar on the Anfibio scale is roughly equivalent to X on a F75 or Deus... I realize Ground Balance numbers vary by manufacturer.

Has anyone done a comparison of the mineralization readouts of various brand detectors on the same ground? I know Fisher F75 is considered a standard. I would like to be able to compare my NM Anfibio readings to other detectorist's ground conditions. F75, Deus etc. Also what GB settings others consider mild----hot ground.

Pinpointing remains a challenge sometimes, but the advent of handheld probes sure beats the pants off of what we use to deal with! Maybe someone will introduce a probe that has adjustable Disc/Tone break. That would require it be Motion based so probably not easy to do.

Sorry to hear that did not help. Keep trying to skin that cat.

If you will back off of the target until the Carrot is just at a low response to retune, it will give you more "range". You can repeat if needed.

I often will detune my Garrett to zero in on a small target that is still in the hole. It works pretty well. I have not taken to my NM PulseDive nearly as well. It seems to have a noticeable delay in response and the volume thru the green headphones is overly loud. Detuning works with it as well. If the target is out of the hole I just pinpoint it with the detector and pass handfuls of dirt across the coil. This sorts any trash and is quicker for me.

On the Vista X, which is not a true Analog but a sort of hybrid, the GB setting needs to be spot on for best stable operation & depth. If the ground changes you know it quickly. On my NM Anfbio & AT Max you can run a slight offset while in Disc modes but then PP will be a bit wonky. I have not seen any real benefit to trying to hunt with a GB offset. Most of my sites seem to be mild to moderate ground. Sandy areas GB 55-60, about 1 bar on the mineral scale and my hotter red clay sites 65-70 GB & 3, rarely 4 bars on the Anfibio. The GB values on the AT Max will be close to 20 points higher. I still experiment some on the hotter ground trying to get the most stable operation.

This is a good question and should garner some great discussion, I hope members will also comment on their relative ground as far as degree of Mineralization. GB #s & # of Bars on any scale.

Welcome from snowy Texas,

I like digging shotshell heads & cartridge brass as well as lead. It helps date a site's activity. An amazing amount of ammunition has been fired just about anywhere you go. If you dig them you will dig the buttons & coins also.

I have always understood Naptha(also known as Stoddard"s Slovent) as a low flash solvent similar to common paint thinner. We use to use it by the 55 gallon drum in our shop to clean parts. White gasoline is Benzine, same as Coleman Lantern Fuel. Lighter fluid used to be Benzine. What you get now is Naptha. I use the Benzine in my lighters because it burns much cleaner.

I would have to get my Dad's D Tex BFO fixed!

On my Anfibio I adjust the Z1 tone break & volume instead of using Disc or Notch. Depending on the hunt it maybe 06 or 18 or even 25.if in a 2 tone mode.(2DI, Deep, Beach). I hunted today for a lost ring running 3 DI with Z1 at Vol 01, Z2 at Vol 03 & Z3 at Vol 01. Gain 97 no Disc. I love the adjustability that it has. I only use Notch on my saved customized 5DI mode that I use for coins in modern trash.

I may be wrong but that tire gage looks older than 1950's. Looks more like early to mid 1920's. Mr. Google should be able to come up with some info.

Was that Alexander Enterprises? I bought my Garrett CX II there in 1994. I actually got it out today and ran it through the test garden. All metal is is not bad at all but the Disc mode can't come close to today's top end machines. t did find a lot of stuff anyway.

That is starting out right!

Those are some great buttons. I have never run a F75 but I know it's reputation. I have kept information on Flagship class detectors for General knowledge to adapt to my situation, F75, Deus, Impact on others. The Physics are the same and I'm able to draw on the knowledge & experience of much more advanced detectorists. The purpose in lowering the Tone Break to 06 is to hunt in heavy nail areas for the mid conductors that are heavily masked by the iron beside and above them. The Iron pulls their conductance down. In my ground a normal size rusty cut nail comes in around 03-04. That is if it's not bent or have an extra rusty head. There a ways to interrogate the target and know it is isolated iron or something in addition. You will dig some nails for sure but that gets them out of the way and breaks up their halo. You will also find good targets that have been missed. Maybe a high conductor but more likely a mid conductor like your buttons or lead. It is really a specialty setting for specific site areas. The potential has to be there to justify this type of slow sweep, dig the odd ball sounding targets approach. Don't try to run too much gain. You aren't going to get past 3-4 inches anyway when it's wall to wall nails. 3DI at 89 Gain or lower with the same Tone Break of 06 is good also I just prefer 2DI or Beach. Dogodog your button does have a Fraternal look to it. Move your nails closer to the coin, then put one on top of the coin. How does that report? Now put the coin 1-2-3 inches directly under a nail. What will a little offset change? How about a Nickle 5 cent piece or cuff button? I try to simulate what I think might be in the ground on the site.

Have the pins gotten bent?

Never stop trying to learn. I read posts & watch videos of all brands of detectors. The idea to reduce my Tone Break from 15-18 down to 06 was from an old thread on the F75 hunting for heavily masked targets in carpets of nails. It produced for me on ground I had been over carefully 3-4 times already.

DI 2 is the base mid gain two tone mode on the Anfibio. At factory settings the Gain is at 70, Disc at 03 and the Tone Break is 15. ISAT is 01. These are very good settings that can be adjusted as site conditions dictate and experience increases. Because it only uses two tones; low tone for targets 15< and a higher pitch tone for targets >15 it is at home in sites where you would want to dig any target that is not a nail/small iron. Deep mode is very similar but has much less filtering and a slower, longer "look" at the target. It is a good bit deeper but slower on recovery between targets. Deep can be somewhat noisier from EMI. Beach Mode is also a two tone mode, similar to 2DI but with much more filtering and has a factory default Disc of 15. The nice thing about the Anfibio is you have all these base modes that are each geared toward a different hunt/site scenario. 2DI= Relic hunting on ground without modern Aluminum trash, just nails & larger iron. Dig all the high tones. Deep mode the same except use on cleaner ground and scan/sweep slower. The multi tone modes; 3DI, 4DI, 5DI, 99DI are useful in more modern sites that have a wider range of targets. I have adjusted my settings as I have gain experience with the Anfibio to better suit the different sites I hunt. Half the fun for me is figuring out the site and what works. My saved 2DI settings are Gain 85, Disc 01, ISAT 00(I have mild ground mostly) Tone Break 18. In heavy nails I use a Tone Break of 06 to help unmask. If the Iron is real falsy I will run Beach Mode. Spend some time experimenting, set up a thought out test garden and keep notes.