RickUK

Enjoyed the video,just a quick question which 15x12 Commando coil did you use was it a DD or Mono ?? i use the same coil but only a Mono on my TDI Pro,does work very well.

That was absolutely brilliant,really enjoyed that video,can see the need for a tough 4x4,thanks for showing the video

Dont question him,just take the money and pick the machine up and hit the road before he changes his mind,bargain of the century i would think.

What is it like pinpointing wise with those long narrow coils ??? it is still right in the middle of the coil or is it harder pinointing with them.

A wise move in my opinion,should have been done a few years back,but as the old saying goes 'better late than never',using the MJ folded coils that was a great decision as i have never liked the stock DF coils that came with my Pro,infact i have only use mine for about sub 60 minutes. The 2 coils that i use the most is a MJ folded mono but the next size down i think its a 10x6 or something like that and its really deadly on small items,but my everyday use is the 14x9 Coiltek Mono coil,the reason i like this its so light being foam filled and can swing this rig around all day long. Glad that Whites have been listening and taken some action as i feel in the last 3-4 years after being a loyal Whites fan for many many years they have been in my mind going down the same route as Tesoro and resting on ones laurels from the past.I am afraid that they still need to come out with something new as the gap between them and other brands 'that' have bought out totally new machines has widened and by a massive margin. Whites you certainly get my vote on this latest incarnation of the TDI,all you need to basically do is address the battery life issue.

As i am mainly after old coinage that is mainly silver or gold the pinpoint probe is very important too me as i dont want to damage these potentially rare coins,so my main everyday use probe is the Garrett pinpointer,i also have a Whites Bullseye as a reliable backup and a DX-1 inline probe on my DFX possibly my best probe but alas its only tethered to the one machine alas thats its downfall. Also i have and occasionally use is the Uniprobe headphone/pinpointer all in one,expensive setup because it came over from the US son incurred high postage and other import taxes but i do you that mainly when artifact/hoard hunting as because its Pulse based it does offer extra depth. But for every day use the original black Garrett does everything reliable as i am after,its vitally important when coin/artifact hunting that you are precise when digging the coin out so as not too damage it.Not like the nugget hunters who use massive axe based implements

For me if i had just one machine to choose for most of my UK permission coin hunts it would be the Deus without any doubt,its about as good as it gets on our silver hammered coins and for the most part all our coinage. But the machine that has provided me with my best coins has been the T2 and surprisingly enough with the small coil,this combination has found me 3 celtic gold staters 55bc and a George111 full Guinea. But if i had just one machine it would be the Deus,the most popular detector here in the UK for many years.

I can only speak for when i am hunting for rings and general jewellery here in the UK,for the most part as i live inland so far from the beaches that are traditionally the places for gold rings and jewellery in general it not often that i do beach detecting,so most of mine is done inland and specifically leisure locations as i find those are the best places. One of my favourite locations is near a river crossing or ford going back well nearly 2000 years,so not only do you find coinage from folks who have dropped them while travelling through the ford but also roman votive offering to the water gods,and rest assured one can find some nice roman coins. But the main reason i hunt this specific area is during the hot summer months its a haven for young mums who bring the young kids down to the shallow river mainly to paddle and catch tiddlers with nets etc,but usually the young mums have grannies old lumps of high class ice that have been handed down through the family,and as we are all aware that cold water makes the fingers shrink and unfortunately sometimes these rings do fall off and never seen again until someone comes along with a metal detector that is. I prefer using a small coil setup and this can be either a VLF or PI machine and as the water is only about 8'' maximum finds can be easily found,surprisingly enough one machine that you would not expect to work well is the Compadre,but when fitted with the small 4'' coil its a deadly combination.Another machine i also have been using and mainly in the hunt for fine gold rings/jewellery is the TDI Pro with a 9x5 folded mono.Both these combinations work well and have recovered some nice finds from just this one small location in recent years. Roll on the hot summer days again and that is mainly because the crops are still in full growth here till harvest time,at least it allow me to still carry on detecting.Of course this is only how i do this type of detecting and it may differ from other folks who hunt gold rings/jewellery inland.

I also received a PM and like yourself i also could not work out in the translation side of things,of course the GoPro option would have been the most popular option as its a very established brand name but comes with it a heavy price tag when if you look around on Ebay you can get similar cameras that do the exact same thing as the 'GoPro' version but for about half the price.This is exactly what i did and also got a complete set of mounting equipment to mount the camera in various ways. That is possibly the only option that i can suggest from between the translation.

Must admit i am not sure what you are saying on this camera thread,only thing i can suggest is what someone else has mentioned is you are trying too use a 'GoPro' or similar camera,but they cannot be linked to your detector.Can you explain a little better what you mean,gut feeling tells me its a communication break down between 2 languages.

I guessed it was along those lines the targets that you are after,if that is the case then i am pretty certain a 16'' coil would be fine and 18'' would be more than enough,this would certainly nail a small money jar size item and of course bigger and still allow for single coinage as well to be found.

Have been thinking about this post about which coil is better of the 2 but you left out one vital piece of information and that was your finds that you are after,had a look at one of your previous posts and you mentioned this ' Byzantine and Roman money' so am assuming that its mainly coinage,of course i could be wrong on my assumption but i dont think i am. My opinion going from what you have mentioned is that the 18'' coil would be better for coinage size items and above but the larger 22'' coil would be the better option for locating say the coin hoard container but not so great on the individual coins.when i am after finding the scattered coins from a plough damage hoard then i mainly use the 15x12 Minelab mono coil,18''Detech mono coil on my TDI Pro and for actually locating the actual container i would use my 20'' Grande Sierra mono coil. But as most traditional UK hoards are/have been buried usually by a person laying down flat on the ground and placing the container into the hole then these are found in the 15'' to 24'' depth range or the length of the persons arm for a better way of describing it,so in theory a 16''-18'' coil on the GPX should be more than enough hitting power to not only get the individual coins and also the container and other artifacts as well. These are of course just my thoughts on how i would use my detector/coil combination in a situation like this and its not all that different from your situation by the sound of it.It may be off topic of say the norm of nugget hunting but the common denominator is of course the word 'gold' as in nuggets and gold coinage.

This possibly one of my favourite detecting forums,of course i am not a nugget hunter but the information that Steve H and the forum has provided me has been top notch,no major bitching or posts like other forums have,it basically runs exactly how a forum should be without over power hungry moderators etc which some forum have,which is a pity. It would be tragic if the forum in its current format changed,thanks Steve for providing a tremendous detecting platform.

Logic would tell me that the 22'' Coiltek coil could be slightly deeper but i would think that would be on larger targets,but here is a report from Gordon Heritage who is a official Minelab tester and he has report on actually using the 18'' Coiltek on a GPX machine. https://www.minelab.com/usa/go-minelabbing/treasure-talk/the-gpx-4800-with-the-coiltek-18-elite Makes interesting reading as its hunting for UK gold coins rather than nuggets which of course we dont usually have. This review may or may not help you.

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Richard,a good haul by the looks of it,the recent bad weather that we have had has moved the sand around alot,so you had been lucky finding some coinage,far better than finding 'stiffs' on the beach

As you are after mainly roman coinage etc then my personal opinion is that the GPZ would not be the right machine for the job,actually locating the 'actual container or hoard' that contains coins then possibly yes,the GPX would be my choice out of the detectors that have been mention as its so much more versatile and of course the massive array of coils available both in DD or Mono format,the DD is the only option that offers some form of discrimination. This then leads onto 'possibly' another option and one that i actually use and that is the Whites TDI Pro,i have found is pretty good for hunting on some of my roman sites including one roman villa site in the worst soil conditions going,basically its like black sand but 80 miles inland from the coast,so very few VLF machines will work on this site,but a TDI Pro will and does work pretty well,with the added secret weapon of using the 'low conductivity' setting i can still hit our roman and silver/gold coinage but reduce the amount of non desirable targets ie nails etc down to a very acceptable level. Of course the TDI pro has another bonus and that is that the machine is also alot cheaper than the other 2 options that have been mention,please note that i am not saying its better in anyway than the Minelab options,but for the specific job in hand that you have mentioned ie coinage and possibly artifacts as well i guess then the TDI Pro does become a very viable and cheaper option.If i was after say only gold nuggets or that type of thing then i would go for the other 2 machines. Of course what works for me and the detectors that i use for may specific detecting scenarios of course possibly would not work for others,this is another possible alternative that you may have over looked and one that i also use is a VLF machine and i use 2 Nexus machines because of the massive depth advantage over other VLF machine,but they offer not only real depth advantage but also very sensitive on small single coins but also the whole hoard aspect as well.For me i like have 2 options that i can/will use and that is both Pulse and VLF technology. Of course this is only how i would use some machines in a similar situation as yourself especially when after single,multiple or hoard coinage situation and of course artifacts as well.What ever option you choose good luck in the quest and keep us updated so that other folks can benefit from your experience either good or bad from what you have learnt.

Interesting scenario,i am assuming its a hidden hoard of gold coins and as you have mentioned that they 'could' be in a glass container then it would be a sub 200 year old hoard,of course could be wrong but you dont have any further details. In a situation like that here in the UK if i was too come across a scattered hoard ie the plough has taken the top off the container and spread the hoard in a reasonably tight radius,then i would try and locate the stray coins then try and locate the container,usually ours are located in earthenware pot that type of thing and usually down at the 18-26'' depth range,which is the type of range that you have mentioned.The detectors that i have and use for these types of detecting hunts are either the Whites TDI Pro(pulse) with a range of coils from 12'' upto 20'' that certainly will give you the depth especially on the bulk or container of the hoard/stash or what ever you are detecting for.A couple of other detectors that i use are the Nexus SE (dual 9'' coil) or the Nexus MP with the 14x13'' coil,both of these machines are VLF but will certainly hit the bulk hoard container at the depth that you are after. One other and last resort and the deepest option that i use is a Fisher TW-5 twin box,basically no good on single coins but will have no problems locating a container of coins in the area size that you have mention,how deep will a twin box go on a hoard size container with coins in,well i will stick my neck out here and say that will nail the container at even greater depth,it all depends on the size of the target,the larger it is the deeper a twin box setup will go,but remember no good on single coins. This may or may not help you,but this is the method that i have use with some success here in the UK,surprisingly enough if you are on a tight budget and non of this information you have provided,you can buy a much cheaper setup say like a older version MXT and buy the Whites 15'' coil Concentric coil for a very reasonable price,this then allows you to use the stock coil for locating the stray or single coins or what ever you are after,then the larger 15'' coil for locating the actual container.This option does basically exactly the same as a high end Pulse machine or specialist dedicated machine at a fraction of the cost. Of course this is just my opinion and thoughts on how i would tackle such a detecting scenario and it has been successful i may add.

John,well fancy seeing you on here

Some interesting detector/coil rig setups in those photos especially the wheeled trolley rig For me the current biggest coil setup that i have on my TDI Pro are the Minelab 15x12 Concentric coil which is reasonably heavy but i use with a harness,18'' Detech Mono which is much lighter than the Minelab one,but the biggest coil that i swing is the 20'' Grande Sierra mono which is a Jimmy Sierra design but built by Miner John for him. I will highlight that i have never been near a gold nugget location as all my detecting is done in the UK and using the big copils for deep hoard hunting,so we have different techniques when using Pulse machines. But i guess most folks are using the GPZ with either the 14'' or humongous 19'' coil on,big coils on the GPX possibly could be on the decline as folks change over to the GPZ. Its interesting in what rigs the nugget hunters use,great photos that you have shown.

Here in the UK we are still in our main detecting season,which starts initially when the crops come off in August/September depending on how the weather has been during the summer.As soon as the crops are harvested then the detecting season starts and ends depending on the crops sown of course,but i can detect for the most part right upto feb/march on cropped land but all year round basically on pasture. Some farmers as soon as the seed hits the ground will basically say that the fields are out of bounds till harvest time,some are very laid back and will allow like some of my permissions upto about 3'' possibly 4'' of seed growth then that is out of bounds till harvest time. Of course from say April through till Harvest time detecting land can get very hard too find and even then if you are able to detect the ground can be like concrete and you then would need a digger to dig your find/s out the ground.But as luck would have it i usually end up on pasture which i like and often the targets are much deeper,but always have a backup magnet and rope in the car for a spot of 'magnet fishing' thats rather nice during the hot summer months,or i even like a spot of detecting on river crosssings like fords and near ancient bridges that man has used for over a 1000+ years. In theory we have nearly all year round detecting,i dont mind detecting in the cold,hot or even when the ground is soaking wet but never liked detecting when its chucking it down with rain,that is not my idea of fun.

The legendary ex military UK Land Rover,ideal for detecting just dump all your gear in the back and off you go,almost un-stoppable off road wise,can be picked up reasonably cheap as well at auctions.All though Japanese off roader are more refined the beauty of owning a Land Rover is you can almost be certain of getting spare parts for them either new or 2nd hand and at a reasonably cheap price anywhere on the planet. But saying that i own a german softroader the BMW X5 which is not all that reliable as one would think and the spares cost a arm and a leg when it does go wrong

Interesting topic especially as i also have a Vaquero but its the UK version called the 'Laser Trident11 Extreme' the difference here is that the normal UK Vaquero ie Trident 11 is basically the same as the US Vaquero. What makes the 'Extreme' version which is a modded version made by the UK service/repair centre Pentechnic is that it has been slightly modified inside and also a few other additions,fine tuning and basically its a 'steroid' version of the standard Vaquero,the freq is 18.5khz or possibly 19khz i stand too be correct on the 19 khz comment,but this is mainly aimed at our small silver hammered coinage and that is the main reason over the 14khz of a normal version of the machine,also it has the higher tone modification and also has a fixed and manual GB facility,one other major visual difference is that they also have the 'Tejon' battery box on which is 8x1.5v rather than the 1 9v battery. Mine came with the 11x8 coil on although you can of course stipulate the 9x8 Concentric coil or even any other coil combination as you wish,but i was not sure about the 11x8 coil for some time,but it has grown on me over time,i also have and use alot the NEL Snake coil 6.5x3.5'' for really trashy roman/saxon sites this combination on the trashy sites makes it a deadly combination,especially when you have a field that has roman hob nails on from the roman shoes,but the small coil allows you too pluck decent roman coinage from between these beds of nails. One of the main reasons that i bought a Vaquero or UK variation is that its ultra lightweight even with the 11x8 coil on it,i have wrist problems with my detecting arm and it makes no odds how hard i try with the other arm which is good,it just aint happening,the left arm just does not do the same as my regular detecting arm.Also of course the legendary Tesoro/Laser discrimination albeit its really optimised when using a Concentric coil but its pretty good also with the WS coils as well. It will never be my main machine,no Tesoro will ever achieve that for sure,its a site specific use machine in my book and its good for that use only really,do i have other machines ?? yes i do infact i have many many machines once again some are for everyday use like say my Deus and T2,but i also have site specific use machines as well for depth ie hoard hunting that crown belongs too my Nexus machines and also Pulse machines for a couple of very highly mineralised sites,and a tremendous selection of coils for these detectors that i own/use,are they all used the answer is 'yes' of course some are used many times during the year and other's just a few times but the all earn there keep in some way. The Vaquero is a good reliable lightweight workshorse and brings a smile and alot of enjoyment factor when i use it,does it find me anything ?? yes' of course it does,with our rich historical heritage in the UK it has found me some very nice finds as like all my other detectors as well.We are very luck in having as much history as we do here,if i am honest we tend too take it for granted.

Steve,you are probably right about that new 22'' coil,what i will say is that the Coiltek 14x9 mono coil that i have that was specifically made for the GPX/GP range does work a treat on my TDI Pro,been using it instead of the 12'' DF coil and never regretted getting it,its a pure joy too use for my site situations which are mainly farm land and deep artifact/hoard hunting.

I am aware that this coil is a DD and mainly aimed for the GPX range of machines,but could be interesting too find out if it would also run on the TDI Pro range of detectors,gut feeling tells me it would.