larryw

I know i need more depth than the equinox 800 VLF can reach. I know this because I live on the actual militia Training grounds that the soldiers trained on before during and after the War of 1812. The very end of the training ground is my house and property. In my yard, I've pulled out extremely deep musket balls, flat buttons, and large cents. But my yard is a problem yard because the house that was here before mine was built belonged to a captain during the War of 1812. It was demolished to make my house in the 1890's When they dug out my cellar they just piled it all up in my yard, so i got like 2 feet of dirt before i get to the good dirt. ALL the period stuff i found was on the edge of my lawn where there is a slope leading down to the road. The targets were all 10 to 13 inches on the slope. I used a tiller and ground down about a foot and half for my vegi garden and then i was able to get a period flat button. I even have 2 water Wells in my basement. that dirt obviously got piled up in the yard too. The public park is also part of the training grounds. I had heard that the place had been hit pretty good over the years by several people but its very obvious that they machines they used couldn't hold a candle to a equinox 800.. I've gotten a lot of silver out of the park. SO MUCH that im absolutely convinced that there has to be older stuff that is much deeper. I cant get passed 1880 coinage in that park. Most of the early stuff was IHC's. But plenty of barber and mercury dimes and a few quarters have come out of there. The stuff wasn't very deep either. About 6 to 7 inches on average. Was just easy picking for the 800. Nothing period has come out of the park to date. Nothing at all. Not one musket ball or flat button. No early coinage, nothing. I see brick in the ground in the park beside my house, but the big park doesn't have any. The dirt is original. I test dug a hole about a foot and half deep and its just hard packed dirt after 3 inches of top soil. The dirt is so hard during the summer time that i wont dig unless it rains. It kills the grass and you cant fill the hole in properly. Lots of silver came out of the park. So i know the good stuff is deeper. i know where all the erosion dirt went and were all the clay is. You can tell when your digging. SOme places do have more top soil and can tell its because it eroded off a different part of the field. I already dig absolutely everything. I dont care what the vdi is. So a PI machine is ok with me. I dont need a vdi.I want deep consistent beeps from targets that i can dig up. Because right now, i have already cleared out ALL TARGETS WITH ALL VDI AND EVERY SINGLE DOUBLE BEEP OUT OF THE RICHEST SILVER PRODUCING SPOTS IN THAT PARK AND NOW I CANT EVEN FIND A TARGET TO DIG WITH THE EQUINOX 800. ITS CLEAN. No excuse for a deep large cent to have not been found there. None at all. Someone else didnt find it because there machine would have been to weak to find it. The proof is all the silver ive pulled out the park. The stuff has to be deeper.

the settings I used to do The air test to hit a quarter at 22 inches is basically only good for beaches and places with fill dirt. I found a barber quarter at a baseball field that was built in the 1990's. They made the foundation of the field with old dirt. Then they put a tarp over it and dumped about a foot of baseball field dirt over it. No mineralization at all. My air test settings hit the deep stuff in those situations. I dont know anything at all about PI machines. Thats why im asking questions about what i should get. I want to be able to get a large cent that has been in the ground for 200 years at 17 inches. That should be strong enough for my needs. That will probably hit a 10 inch trime but i dont know since i have no experience with PI machines.

Im using the Equinox 800. Saving up more money now to get a PI machine. Probably going to buy a used gpx 5000.

Here is what i consider the "good stuff" I find lots of modern stuff too and plenty of silver. Several Wheats, indians, barbers, etc. Its a good place to find stuff. Seated and bust is almost non existent, Thats why im trying to get a PI machine. I know its there, im just not getting to the layer this stuff sunk down too with the equinox 800.

For JohnnyRox and Chase Goldman, 15 x 12 coil Field 2 Sensitivity = 25 Manually crank up the ground balance to 99 All Metal Recovery delay = 1 Iron Bias = 0 Multi Frequency Seems just as deep and is probably superior to 4khz Anyways, When you get the quarter all the way back to the 22 inch mark Start out passing it extremely slow. If it wont double beep, Slowly increase the speed you are passing your target until it does double beep. I've noticed that even with Recovery Delay set at 1, Sometimes a FASTER sweep speed is required to make the target double beep. That's just the way it is. Think about that when you pass a target up because you cant get a double beep. For Sandheron, I dont know why it reduces depth, But the slower you set the recover speed, the stronger a lower conductor such as nickel will wrap which will mask targets such as silver quarters. With a recovery speed of 1, a 3 inch nickel will mask a 5 inch silver quarter that is 3 inches away from the nickel. Notch hunting with slower recovery speeds will also mask signals and you will never know it. If your a notch hunter and your playing with recovery speeds, then max recovery speed is what you should be using, otherwise your going to mask really good targets and your going to miss a lot.

I currently use a Equinox 800 and I consider myself to know absolutely everything about it. There really isnt anything that anyone can tell me about that machine that i havent mastered and completely already know. Its probably the most simple machine to use on the planet. I understand all the settings and I even know how to exploit the machine to get the results that i want when i want and i know how to get the maximum depth possible on the machine. I can even get a 22 inch air test on a silver quarter. Not too many people know how to do that and it is very relevant when you hunt in places with fill dirt and sand. So I have been completely cleaning out all double beeps, every single piece of trash, every sliver of aluminum foil, every rusty nail, Every single pull tab, piece of a pull tab, tip of a pull tab, chocolate coin discarded foil etc etc etc. Some of these places i have been electronically sifting wont even give a double beep on ANYTHING anymore with the Equinox 800. I dont care about VDI i just dig it all at this point. I try to force out double beeps. It just doesnt happen anymore in these places ive been pounding. Ive used all 8 modes with several different settings and I now consider these places PRIME PROPERTY for a Pulse Induction Machine in order to find more targets. These places are so clean that I wont even have to tug around the 800 to cross check the beeps because the 800 cant hit anything else there anyway. So i need advice on a purchase. We all know Whites has ended production. But ive always been interested in the TDI pulse machine. Right now you can pick up the Whites TDI Metal Detector with 12” Waterproof Spider Search Coil & Bundle for about 999.95 plus tax and shipping. I have read some old reviews of this machine and some people claim that this thing is an absolute beast at the beach. Ive seen videos of people making water proof boxes and tying it to there body just so they tug this thing along the water and get that unbeatable depth with it. Some of these guys are claiming they get about 3 foot of depth with it while wearing ear phones. I find that very interesting but i dont plan on using it at the beach. I need a machine strictly for coin/relic and jewelry hunting AT THE PARKS and other places on Dry land That the equinox 800 just cant find any more targets at, even after 2 weeks of straight rain. I think my max in depth dig on the ground with the 800 was about a 12 inch Large Cent, and it was basically on a hillside. So i cant find any information about the depth of coins that the WHites TDI can detect. I have Trimes in neighborhood and half dimes too. The equinox will struggle to find those targets that have been in the ground for over a 100 years at about 6 to 7 inches. Can a TDI pull those targets at 12 inches if they have been in the ground for over a hundred years? Whites has taken down their forums and i cant find any relevant information about coin hunting with the machine. Why is TDI cheaper than a V3I? I know that my 800 is superior to the V3I because i used to own one. The V3I is just a VLF machine. If the TDI is a Pulse machine should'nt the detectable depth for coins/jewelry/relics be better and deeper than a VLF? I dont want to dump a grand on a machine with 10 year old technology if my VLF is going to be superior to it. I really don't want to buy a Garret ATX with its 8 year old technology for 2 grand, when i can probably wait until Minelab releases this GPX 6000 specs information. Thats probably when you can get a good deal on a used GPX 5000 for 2 grand or less on ebay. USED GPX 5000 > Garret ATX at that price point. But if a TDI is all need, THat would save me a grand. I dont care about going to gold fields and looking for gold flakes or nuggets. I care about digging up the history where i live at. I could get just as lucky in my village and dig up a silver coin worth $50,000 or more as you could get lucky finding a gold nugget of the same value in the dessert or mountains, RISKING YOUR LIFE FOR IT... Ive read that a Garret ATX and the Whites TDI perform about the same as far as depth of coins is concerned. So I guess i have 2 options, A whites TDI for 1 grand, or wait and try to get a USED GPX 5000 when they go on sale after the GPX 6000 specs release. Is a TDI going to be sufficient for my needs? THanks!

Hello, I like the oldschool format of a Forum over a Facebook, But i do use facebook for local detecting groups. Ive been detecting for about 25 years now. I mostly just hunt coins/jewelry/relics. I live in upstate New York. My village was founded around 1807 and was a militia training ground from about 1807 to 1830 ish. My village had about 35 + participants in the War of 1812. I got full permission to detect and keep anything on ALL of my Villages property free and clear :). Lots of good stuff has come out of here. Basically all able body people that lived here during the Civil War was required to participate in that. I basically live in what has been a military complex for a very long time but was never owned by the Federal government. Ill be asking questions in about a detector decision in another thread. Just wanted to introduce myself, say hello, and get some info a potential detector purchase. THANKS!