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Thanks guys!  

TnSharpshooter posted a short video on Youtube just showing the coils, and mentioning he had used the M8 more than the M15. He said more to come on both. The M8 in particular.

I took mine in the back yard day before yesterday, on a very deep quarter it was banging it on 20 sensitivity AT-HC. I compared with my 800 also on 20 sensitivity Park1 and the Manticore seemed to hit the clad quarter somewhat better. I could get the coil a little bit higher off the ground with the Manticore. So I guess my update went fine.

Well not to brag, but I did both the detector and headphones in under 15 minutes on one computer. So there!

27 minutes ago, Chesroy said:

My buddy uses D2 that performs very well in the plough and has the edge over the nox in my opinion

I have heard the same thing, but I'm not sure I would believe it without actually seeing a Deus II and a Nox swinging over the same target in loose dirt and one doing better than the other. It would seem to me the more fluff there is the more air there is which should not make any difference. I just don't get how fluff can be tougher than compacted ground when air test are always deeper than in the ground test.

Amazing! Dream find for sure.

I got my Manticore Jan. 10th so I have been waiting on the smaller coil a long time. So long that I have just quit fretting about it.  I don't have ultra mild soil. I'd say 80% of the places I hunt the soil mineralization would be medium. I don't get these excessive fluctuating I.D.'s with my Manticore. I can't speak about the 900. I can call silver dimes from clad dimes more times than not. Even clad quarters from silver quarters. So what do you guys mean exactly by jumpy I.D.'s?

Basically I am very impressed with the Manticore. I have not been digging much lately due to very hard dry ground. Up until it got dry I was really doing great with the Manticore even in some hard hunted spots I thought were pretty much hunted out. I'm just surprised I have not seen a lot of post mirroring my experiences with the Manticore. I expected more praise based on what I have seen so far. 

22 hours ago, Steve Herschbach said:

Brand new model, brand new forum, 5100 posts and counting. That's some pretty active dead air!

Seemed like most of it was before it was actually in people's hands though. On the other forum I frequent it's been pretty much the same thing. Not a lot of post about finds or settings. Not like it was with the Equinox.

11 hours ago, Daniel Tn said:

It's too dry to hunt here.  I tried hunting my yard a couple days ago and actually bruised my foot trying to drive the shovel into the ground.  Red clay turns to basically brick when it dries out.  My hunting is pretty much done until the fall/winter.  I will say though, in playing with some of the Manticore audio theme settings...it makes a huge difference with all other settings the same.  It IMO, has more of an impact on making a signal pop out, vs all the others.  I can make stuff sound like crap that I'd probably not dig...to making it sound like the purest "dig me all day long" signal just by audio theme settings.  

Yes it's very dry here. We have mostly red clay. I have not turned my Manticore on in two weeks. It's going to take a real toad strangler to soften things up. I was on a real roll with the Manticore until the ground got hard.

1 hour ago, CoinShooter said:

Hello,

From my experience with the Manticore so far, I have seen on my display both the nice round dot on the center line (potential coin) and smudging towards the bottom of the screen. I found a Mercury dime lying next to a large nail a couple of weeks ago. Both of them were being seen my the machine at the same time.

To dig, or not to dig, that is the question. However, I usually dig 🙂

John

I have dug several silver coins slightly above or below the center line that were not the perfectly round dot. Also there have been even more that are on the the center line that were also a small blob or smudge. When centered over the target these silver coins never had a consistent red line under the I.D. as I circled and hovered over the target. If the red line ever popped up under the I.D. on these it was not consistently there at all.

I swear this has happened several times in places with older iron. The scenario goes something like this. You get a high tone blip during a swing and investigate. You get a good tone and number one way. You turn 90 degrees and it's gone. You the pivot back to the direction you initially heard the target, and now it is either gone completely or a very random blip of a high tone that is not remotely as consistent as it was when it first stopped you. These frustrate me as I feel I am wasting time. I have found the Manticore to have more of these disappearing ghost signals than the Equinox 800. It's AT-HC that produces these the most from what I have seen, but AT-HC to me is best at finding silver versus the other programs.     

20 hours ago, TampaBayBrad said:

Agree whole heartedly. I came from a "hear only"  CZ-21 and really appreciate the added info from the TID and 2D screen info. 

I first get stopped mid swing when my tuned ear hears a good target and then I verify it with the Manticore's screen info and then cross check it from different angles. Takes 5 seconds tops. 

I basically do the same. Every time I have dug a signal that is fairly solid one way, then turn 90 degrees and I start getting a red line under the numbers it has been iron. I was basically wondering if that had been everyone's experience.  

I did forget to mention the program I use 90% of the time is AT-HC. GB_Amateur when you get a chance and I will try to do the same. Try to GB and swing over your test garden coins. Then raise and lower your GB manually to see if you get any iron grunts or red underlined I.D.. I'm wondering how much the GB being not exact can cause the detector to misinterpret targets. The weird thing is I dug some super deep stuff last weekend in mild ground zero red line. The ground was really mild. Sandy farm land near the Mississippi river. It may take more mineralized ground to get the red underlined I.D. on deeper targets that could be coins. Like I mentioned the Manticore does a good job on deeper silver/coins, and when the target is actually a coin from what I can tell all signs of determining targets, I.D., Tone, and Non-Ferrous Line are pretty spot on.

I am not a dig it all guy. I'm 60 years old and in great health for my age, but I'm still particular about the targets I dig. The less I dig equates to longer overall hunts. Has anyone dug a good target with the Manticore where one way you had a great tone and I.D., but when you turned 90 you got a red line and not quite as solid an I.D.? What I have dug in that situation has turned out to be iron. My Ferrous Limits are 8 upper, and 3 lower. It seems all my silver coin finds are pretty solid. Many are really deep, but they are solid. No red lines at all. I hate to walk away from silver coins, but I don't like digging dry holes.

8 hours ago, Valens Legacy said:

Very nice job on the saves, and I hope that I will be able to find some of those coins when I get a chance to detect.

Good luck on your next hunt and stay safe out there.

Thanks, good luck!

5 hours ago, jim tn said:

Good going! A 2 silver hole is always kind of special, but one with a Walker half is even more so. HH Jim Tn

Thanks, it's been very rare for me to ever find two silver coins in the same hole, but twice this year so far. 

I mentioned in another post I was kinda surprised there were no real bugs with the Manticore software. Meaning they had it pretty well sorted out before release. I do hope there are updates that either add a feature or improve some things. I thought the F2 update on the Equinox was a very nice update. In my opinion there should be a team that would be working on Manticore improvements for a period of time after a release. Whether or not I'm being realistic about that or not I'm not sure. I'd hope they just don't call it good and move on without investigating improvements.   

Adding one more thing. If a known machine is good and selling is it better to update that machine to make it better if possible vs. releasing another detector? It would seem to me if you could update detectors with positive performance updates that would trump releasing another model. That way your not retooling and diluting models you might still be selling. I'm not in the business of designing and selling detectors. So what do know.

I'm waiting for the small coil myself, and also hoping they send out an update to improve it where possible. Surely there will be a few tweaks possible. I am amazed there have been no real software bugs found so far.

Congrats on the nice finds in what sounds like very tough dirt.

I'm up to 26 silver coins for the year. All dimes except for 3 quarters and one half dollar. All with the Manticore. I got mine Jan. 10th. I only really get to hunt weekends. I don't live in a part of the country with endless rows of houses that are of the age to produce silver. All of my silver is from previously hunted places or public spots I know have been hit pretty hard before due to there just being deep silver dimes left. The silver I do find at these places being either in pretty heavy trash or close to edge of detection deep. There is a less of a fine line between my digs and no digs compared to the equinox. I don't know yet if the Manticore is giving me more positive dig info than the Equinox did. As of right now I expect it is because it seems I have more confidence on the ones I do decide to dig. I do have to scrutinize more falsing iron with the Manticore. I have a lot more great sounding one way targets with the Manticore. Only to turn and it go either straight to an iron tone or jumping up into the ferrous line underlined in red. I still feel I have a lot to learn about this detector.      

Not long ago I found a 1965 Washington about 2 inches deep. It had about the same wear as the suspect quarter. It was not even corroded as badly. It looks to me like it's a somewhat fresh drop with little corrosion. Plus it has way more corrosion than what is normal for silver. Almost every silver I dig has no visible corrosion on it. When they do have corrosion it's almost always a little black staining. I'm not even sure the black staining would even be considered corrosion.

He says basically what I've been saying all along which makes me glad it's not just me thinking this. The Manticore is really a tough machine to use mentally. It's more work. It's more fatiguing. The 800 is more pleasurable to use in my opinion, but I have not used the 800 since I got the Manticore. The Manticore chirps on a lot of stuff, and one way falses quite a bit. On the right iron object it can 2-way false. That being said I really think it's doing some things other detectors maybe can't. The last 6 silvers I've found came from previously hunted spots. 4 today from a school yard playground I and a couple of more people have worn out many times with the 800, Etrac, and even the DII has been there some. It's mild sandy ground and the coins a deep. Some very deep.

If I had just found one silver today I might have said yeah we just missed that one, but not 4. The same thing a couple of weeks ago. A yard I and a buddy hit really hard a couple of times. We got several silvers a piece on the initial hunts. We decided to hit it again. It's an empty rental. We got mostly fresh drops but in the area we got most of the silver 2 years ago I pulled 2 more silver dimes from the side we really scrutinized. It wasn't that large an area either. We don't normally leave much because we go back over each others side of the yard. There is no way to say the Manticore hit them while others couldn't, but that hunt and again today was very surprising.

Anyway AT-HC Recovery 3-4 is my go to. I've lowered the ferrous limits to what Tom D. equated to F2-0 on the 800. I did this right off the bat so I'm used to it. I think it's 8 upper and 3 lower. If I was in shotgun iron I would be using AT-LC with the same ferrous limits settings.   

I my dirt which is mild to medium I am calling pennies from dimes with ease with the Manticore. I do not get wildly fluctuating I.D.'s. either. I think I can call all coins as good with the Manticore as can the 800. Including IHP's from Zincolns. I never minded the compressed I.D. of the 800 either. I was quite good with calling most coins, except maybe nickels. Just a guess, but it must be the dirt, and the compressed I.D. on the 800 makes it appear more stable than the 99 scale of the 900.