water spider

thank you Chase for the great info. i have been timid to use IB F2 but now i am eager to explore it more

a short 10 and a wide 5, iron bias f2 maxed out at 9. separation and recovery speed overall?

quality boxing and packaging would make sense for a quality coil. potential problems, damage, defects and delays could happen without it.  However it is what it is...  Poor packaging maybe.

Thank you for sharing and the humor, like detecting it is a skill i am still trying to learn

I really enjoy the orx and all it's attributes. for me it is a no nonsense detector with excellent recovery speed and separation, a very clean and clear audio, selectable frequency and wireless everything. add to cart an update that would provide 4 tones and iron volume. oh yes it has great ergonomics too. thank you XP.

maybe they had a bad batch and some difficulties with the 5x10? no it is probably something else and it just takes the time it takes to manufacture a coil.

1 hour ago, Chase Goldman said:

 

Thanks for the info. 

Can you be more explicit about what you mean by mediocre depth? Is that compared to the 11" coil or the 6" coil?  

Source of information?  Thanks

i cannot and i see your point it makes sense. i have one on the way so i was worried concerned about buying one so soon. thank you

thank you

ok thank you. now i know

i am new to all this. i am a slow learner. i learn by doing and making a lot of mistakes and i do make a lot of errors 

i am just the messenger, so i have been told the new 10x5 coil has mediocre depth and jumpy id. i have one on order. is the coiltek 10x5 made in batches? any user information would be greatly appreciated. please respond politely i am just asking

we will see. thank you

dilek will shoot you straight and direct. no sugar coating or vague reply

4 hours ago, Tom Slick said:

Wow "Not fully released quite yet" although the dealers have been receiving, selling, and shipping them to customers.

 

just curious which dealers, cause i want a 5x10

4 hours ago, Chase Goldman said:

Um, ok.  Then that is a REALLY bad look by Coiltek if true and a bad business model and execution plan. It costs them money in returns and in having to tweak their production line and it can cost them business through irate customers.  These are not like detectors that you can upgrade after the fact.  Really having trouble believing this.  It's either ready or not ready, there really are no in between states when it comes to coils.

nokta makro had some problems with simplex coil early on and so did minelab with coil ears breaking and coils falsing on the nox. remember? so buy the coiltek. i am going to get one. btw how are you so sure about your statement "there really are no in between states when it comes to coils" that is just false.

they are not fully released quit yet. adjustments are made even during and after productions. thats a good thing, to make improvements along the way. ask them directly like i did, knowing some employees and communicating

i can respect and appreciate that. it will be interesting thank you

coiltek is still tweaking the new coils. i would wait and see...

speculative so far, however coiltek has a good rep. there will be disappointment in the 5x10 coil but should improve in performance after some adjustments by coiltek

so on a scale from 1-10 the apex is a 6? however it's also about perspective so for some the apex is a 9 sitting at the top of the ace series. sort of reminds me of the the whites tdi-sl, with the proper perspective and using it in the right environment in my mind it was a very good detector

so on a scale from 1-10 the apex is a 5 and somedays a 6? but its all about perspective. so for some people it could be a 9 and at top of the ace series. sort of reminds me of the whites tdi-sl, with the right perspective and using it in it's proper environment it was in my mind a very good detector

metal detectors are time machines in so many ways and on so many levels. when you understand that you become a seeker of treasure and knowledge. and knowledge is a treasure

the new coiltek 10x5 is actually 9.4 x 5.3?  so it would be interesting to compare it to the 6" and the 6" is more than $100. less or $40. less?

very cool

1 minute ago, Steve Herschbach said:

In general all metal detector manufacturers address stuff like this quietly. As in not as all in any public way. They just slip the fixes in and move on. Making a fuss about "we fixed that" is aiming a gun at their own head in some ways. There was never an explicit rod fix announcement, it just quietly happened. Coil ears, waterproofing, of course they are looking. It's costing them warranty claims, and warranty claims are a feedback loop into accounting and back to engineering. It's either worth the cost, or not. We do not know the numbers, so what we think needs to be done based on internet posts and what they see based on warranty claims costs may be two different things. Business owners get it.

thank you Steve, i am learning a lot. i appreciate and value your knowledge and patients