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Steve, Thank you for your response. I dont know why I'm fretting over this as I don't have a mid range vlf that discriminates and could extend my hunting to trashy areas, parks, and such. The Fors would do just fine for this I'm sure. Too many choices ! Featheredfishhead, Man, that is a great find! I've been following his posts regarding the Fors and he seems to be really happy with the machine. Thanks guys! Dean

Thanks Steve, I know it's all speculative as we know nothing about the Gold Racer. Just driving myself nuts trying to decide if I should wait or not. The weather here is perfect for the next few months so I'm anxious to give the Fors a try but would hate to jump the gun when the unreleased machine would have fit the bill better for just a short wait. Still a prospector more than anything and this would help in the trashy areas if it can handle the ground. Seems to be lots of conflicting reports regarding the Fors and how it handles the ground even from the same areas. Many variables I know ( the operator for one). In your opinion how would the Fors handle central Arizona gold field soil (don't know if this soil is considered really hot in comparison to other areas you have hunted with the Fors)? I found Rye Patch to be fairly tame by comparison. The GB2 is useless in some of the areas around here but has its place as you mentioned. Thanks. Dean

Hi All, I was about to squeeze the trigger on the Fors Gold as a multi purpose machine ( I only have prospecting machines and would like to do a little coin shooting/trashy areas detecting). Now the Gold Racer is coming and was wondering from those of you who have the Fors Gold...is it worth waiting for the Gold Racer? Does the Fors Gold Do O.K. in Arizona's hot ground? Better than a Gold Bug 2? I know that we don't know much about the Gold Racer in terms of frequency and all but is the Racer ergonomically (and such) better than the Fors Gold? Just having the usual dilemma...to buy or not to buy now or wait? Thanks! Dean

Thanks for the replies! I will take your suggestions under consideration. Dean

Thank you for the link, Steve. Makes sense. Hopefully, somebody will design a better coil for it and for less than the cost of the current offering from Garrett. Thanks! Dean

Hi Steve, You type faster than I do! Thank you for the welcome! I stand corrected. It is the coil then. I was hoping for an easier fix than that... like wrapping the cable. I appreciate your advise. Thanks! BTW, can't wait to see your Frankin-ATX finished!! Dean

Hi Qld Sandy, I'm assuming the falsing is from the loose cable based on Steve's comments on the ATX and his experience with the small mono as well. It makes sense to me as the coils are epoxy filled and you would think as such they wouldn't be prone to falsing but the cable is free to bump around in the shaft. It does get very annoying in rocky terrain. Perhaps the only cure is the purchase of an SDC? Thanks. Dean

Hi All, I'm new to this great forum but not new to detecting. I live in Prescott Valley, Az in the heart of gold country and when not working I'm hunting or prospecting. Steve's Frankin-ATX project got me to thinking about the ATX and it's issue with falsing. I really like the ATX except for the usual complaints of excess weight and the falsing. The weight I can tolerate but the falsing drives me crazy. I believe the falsing is due to the cable being unsecured/loose inside the shaft. My question is for anybody who has modified the ATX and wrapped and tied the cable to a different shaft...does this stop the falsing? And, it may be too early in the modification of this detector to ask this, but does anybody do a Steve-like mod to this detector for a fee? I dont mind the control box as is but a shaft/coil mod where the stock coil is center mounted and the cable is tied down would be awesome. I'm not comfortable doing these mods myself. Thanks! Dean