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Definition of Dowsing Rods and Long Range Detectors.

The problem is stock, even now there has not once been a time I've seen their website say they have any stock. Sales are just happening to those on a waiting list. Until they can catch up and have excess stock I can't see them rushing to even worry about other markets. I don't know how many they can pump out, but clearly, it's not enough to meet demand. The good part about it is, it's proven itself to be a success, a good priced reasonably well performing PI machine was obviously something the market needed. This will give them inspiration to keep going and release future models and that's good news for everyone, the more competitors in the marketplace the better, we've seen it with VLF's, now the PI's are getting a turn with three players now doing well in the market. Steve put the call out to manufacturers years ago advocating for it, no established players took it up, and now a new comer to the market is reaping the rewards, they even indicated they were wanting to meet his PI challenge. The USA is a massive market, and a lot of opportunity for them once they can get it across to the US.

I wish every detector had an EMI preview screen like that, the Algoforce has a pretty cool EMI shift screen, but the Rutus tops it by giving frequency information like that. Pretty cool idea you had.

Most businesses pull apart and analyse competitor products, it's what they do with what they learn that counts, some things are protected, some things are not, those that are not are copied, it's how it's always been and why many of our detectors look and function alike 🙂 Happens with coils too, shortly after one brand releases something new, others are sure to follow, no patents so it's a free for all. The concept comes out by the original inventors then there is a scramble to make another version of the same product, in most cases doing it legally by avoiding protected methods, although patents don't apply in every country, some don't follow the same rules. In China is wasn't possible for many decades to patent pharmaceuticals, they were forced to change that to be able to sell their products internationally. The idea of no patents on them was so that they were widely available for everyone at cheaper pricing. Fortunately, the WTO allows the World's poorest countries to copy pharmaceuticals and ignore patents on them. I don't know enough about it, but China does follow patent laws, which allows them to do a lot of international trade, they often file the most patents in a year out of all countries as they're a big manufacturing country and do have a lot of their own innovation, they just seem to lack the policing required to prevent a lot of these black-market goods. I guess when you've got a country of 1.4+ billion people, everything is harder. China does often seem the target, but the fact is countries like India are worse and a far bigger problem ranking right near the bottom. This wasn't "China" that cloned the Legend, it was an individual business based in China. Here are the Best and Worst Countries for Intellectual Property Protection (chiefexecutive.net) What may come as a surprise is China ranks higher than Turkey on the international IP protection rankings. China Turkey The best thing we can do as customers, is support the genuine companies, and not buy the fakes. I'd rather give my money to Nokta for a real Legend than buy a fake one even if it was working the exact same for a discounted price. They deserve the money for putting in the effort to make it in the first place.

Just click the red arrows on my screen shots.

Wow, awesome products there, boats, snow mobiles! i like the little Podium text chatbot on there.

I've been using Gigapixel AI for years, mostly to enlarge images, it does a great job up to about 4x. That's a clean tidy nice fast site, probably the only thing I'd do differently is a "contact us about this product" on each product, seeing there is no way to buy it a contact about it would be a nice little shortcut on each product. The fun I could have on some of those Jansen products! Wow. Very cool.

I think @Steve Herschbach did, from memory it wouldn't handle the ground conditions of gold fields very well.

That's the 15" Concentric coil on the GPZ for you, it goes deep 🙂

Maybe FT is feeling guilty about ripping people off with the Gold Bug Pro, charging more for it for it's name, even though it's far less of a detector than the F19. They have this on their website now. They forget to mention the other benefits of the F19 over the GBP. FeTone™, Adjustable Iron Audio Notch Window with Adjustable Notch Width Backlit Display (Backlight) And the one they neglect to point out on their website, even though it's something a transistor radio had in the in the 50's, VOLUME CONTROL!!!!! They should come to their senses, and make the Gold Bug Pro an F19 with Gold Bug Pro decals and discontinue what we now know as the Gold Bug Pro.

Gold with quartz attached has remained elusive to me too, JW has found a few bits, even recently he found one. I just can't seem to do it, although they appear very rare around here. I mostly just find water warn smooth bits.

Yea, NZ maybe skinny, but it's long. We are in a gold area down the bottom here, but there is gold all along the West coast and the top of the South Island, and the North Island has probably the biggest of the gold mines where JW used to live. Maybe one day when the golds run out, they'll let it fill up with water and those houses on the edge of the mine will suddenly be worth multi millions as lakefront properties 🙂

Nokta were excellent and replaced my coil so now I've got a working pulse dive again sorry, I threw the broken coil out and now need the pinpointer/handle part.

You can pick up an F-Purse for $100 at the Fisher Ebay Firesale, just offer 90 and they'll come back at 100 🙂 Being a PI it's good for the baech more so than the VLF's The XP-Mi4 is good but a bit lacking in depth, strange you had bad luck with the Carrot AT, it's a great pinpointer. The Pro-Find 35 needs discontinued now the 40 is out, I hope they're just selling off the stock of it already made but I'm guessing they just want to milk it by having another model in the line-up that will gather up the sales being a new model, the 40 fixes the 35's problems to a large degree although not perfectly. A customer focused business would have just made the 40 the 35 and any warranty returns of old 35's would be given the new 35's with the problems resolved.

I love the 24k, but I personally wouldn't put money into development of a waterproof wireless version, single frequency VLF's are not the future, they'd be better off doing the AT Pro replacement SMF as it will be the waterproof prospecting machine anyway. If it's a waterproof 24k, the early marketing and excitement will fall pretty flat upon release.

The big question is how much did they pay. Depending on cost, it may have been worth it just to get the 24k onboard.

Minelab put up their pictures of their UK dealer conference, a handful of dealers showed up, I'm sure a few of them came together too from the one dealer. I guess soon they'll be selling direct off their website like they've configured for some of Asia, as they've spoken about in their investor reports to streamline sales. A sign of the times for dealers I guess, gradually disappearing. I was quite surprised with the UK being such a populous country to have so few dealers show up. I like their little shovel spoons, I bet a few of them were knocked off 😛 Maybe I'm just used to the Microsoft, Intel, Nivia etc dealer conferences where hundreds of people were there and they had to hire out big venues to host them. They put up their African one a few months ago, it was a little bit busier and they gave them all free hats and t-shirts. This is an interesting photo, the two GPZ's are well used, the two 6000's are brand new, I wonder if they were samples for them to try them out. Lots of happy faces!

The problem with sharp is they recommend DD coils for it. Sharp (GPX 4500, 4800, 5000) Sharp is similar to Normal but creates a more powerful detection field. It is capable of an improvement in depth, but is more susceptible to interference and will increase the severity of false signals in difficult grounds. This timing is best used in quiet conditions and can work well in combination with Deep Search Mode with a reduced Rx Gain setting. Sharp is an excellent tool for pinpointing faint signals due to the very "sharp" signal response. Sharp will work best with DD coils in most gold field locations. If you look at this chart it has Sharp as blank for monos, blank meaning the timing will work, but other timings will work better.

I'm guessing the shot that gave the 2-4 reading wasn't lead? if you've still got it, can you check with a magnet. Steel shot tends to give a bit higher reading, although my pick magnet normally deals with that.

Looks like their security was a bit more lax than the other detectors that are encrypted, bugger for Nokta, the market is going to be flooded with these things in no time.

I believe @mn90403 has a fair bit of experience with this.

Nope, they didn't bunch up the wire in any spots on the 10", it's completely flat, the 10" is a round coil. The 12x6" is a semi spiral, but the 10" is more sensitive than it to smaller targets and of course deeper being a round coil, the sensitivity to tiny targets is most pronounced at the very centre of the coil.

@Tyler I don't know, I doubt there can be a definitive answer to that, so many more Noxes out there, and who knows if people follow the depth guidelines, sure some fail when they shouldn't, impossible to know how many. Thus far it looks like the Legend maybe more reliable in water, but then again, how do you quantify how many are used in the water compared to the Equinox. With the Equinox being around for half a decade now it's bound to show more failures regardless.

Mines the same except my UVC is 23990, mine was a very early release one, so maybe that numbers creeping up as they sell. I was worried mine would say hardware version 20 being an early one, fortunately they've not changed hardware version so far.

Makes no difference, they either live or die 🙂 I'd rather it had been submerged, as it means it survived so that's a good sign.