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  1. Well done Andrew...you've had quite a year! Couldn't agree more...that fast program can really expose those well masked targets in ways most other machine's can't match. I was surprised how effective it was at moderate depth running Fast. Zincoln
  2. Good morning, Hunting a Victorian era park and pulled this mid conductor. My best guess is a pocket watch winder or cover for the winder? Maybe an old cover for a inkwell pen? Has a bit of gilt left on it. I've dug a tens of thousands of targets, but this is the first that looks like this. For reference, it's about 3/4 of an inch long, 1/4 inch in diameter. Zincoln
  3. Chose to post this to illustrate what we all know, the masking effect is real. Went to a park that is pretty well picked through. It has been hit hard by every detector club and enthusiast in our area. Last year I was able to pull a $5 gold coin that was masked by iron out in the brush, and yesterday I was able to pull 4 coins, one being a nice semi-key barber quarter in areas that I've detected no less than 20 times with my host of detectors, and I'm sure has seen thousands of swings over it. It was only 4-5 inches down, but was surrounded by nails. After getting a new to me 10"DD replacement coil for my V3i, which seems a little hotter than my previous coil, I headed out to see if I would be able to find something I've missed. There are no 'dig me' signals to be found, just a rare bouncy or very iffy directional signal to dig. Working in an old nail bed with small river rock down about 4-5 inches where trails were once graveled, I was near big old iron and a lot of nail signals. First signal was messy, something I've never considered digging before, but it had a few inconsistent high beeps mixed in with plenty of iron in my Mixed audio program (iron in one ear, good tones in the other). Opened the plug and had several responses from the pin pointer. Picked one, loosened the soil a bit deeper expecting a nail, and removed a small scoop. Out pops a VF 1899 S Barber Quarter on edge. A bit surprised, but thrilled. Then I recovered 3 nails in the hole making a nice little circle around it, none further than 3 inches away. In the next few minutes I'd repeat the same dig on a signal I'd generally pass on, and out popped a 1907 IHC and a 1912S wheat all at about 5 inches in the rock/dirt matrix. and with iron nearby. Could have covered these with a garbage can lid. I'd dug 3 or 4 wheats before in the near vicinity, so I knew something might be here, but how on earth have they remained hidden this long with so many detectors passing over them, me included. Thank you iron! The hobby has gotten tough, but there are still good targets in those 'hunted out parks'. While i like my Deus quite well in many applications, the V3i with it's sophisticated programmability (such as selecting how many signal responses in a particular range result in an audible and visible VDI response, and it's mixed mode audio ) allows me to eke out a few well masked targets and keep the hobby fun!
  4. Let me know if you have one you want to part with! If you aren't aware, there will be a V (Or V followed by a number) pressed into the outside of the plastic ear on the coil. Thx, Brian
  5. Back in the 80's, my hometown used to seed the beach with those small school sized milk cartons with .$50 pieces inside of them during the annual festival. They'd bury them in a corded off section of beach, and kids would be turned loose to dig for them. I'm sure not everything was dug up. Over time, the paper would break down and leave the coin behind. Likely they did something similar, or had a 'sawdust pile' type dig in the sand where these were buried for retrieval of the kids. In later years our festival coordinators got smart and started putting denominations on the bottoms of the cartons to be redeemed, rather than burying money in the cartons.
  6. I also came across the refences provided by Steve and others which is a wealth of information...and illustrates the actual rarity of finding meteorites. I'll have it run through a spectrometer at some point in the future and see if the elemental comp is aligned w/ those provided in the links. I did try a refrigerator magnet and it is attracted (I wouldn't call it strong, but it sticks to my specimen). Not getting my hopes up....but its an odd duck. Thx again, Zincoln
  7. I understand GS. Hard to get a really high res photo w/ my equipment. Wish I had lapidary equip to be able to see the fine grain of the specimen. You can easily pick the item up w/ my magnet - it's not going to fall off with an effort to shake it off, but it doesn't slam onto it like a flat bar of steel. Suppose that could be the irregular shape and lack of a nice flat surface to flat surface interface. Or maybe, the reason why it rings up as non-ferrous. This is the first and only time i 'think' i might have a space rock:-) The two things that have me scratching my head: 1. It simply is appears to irregular to be man made. Even if it was the result of an explosion, it still has surfaces that don't add up. Not a single surface is milled, cast or otherwise smooth. 2. It doesn't ring up as ferrous on my detectors (White's and Deus). Rings up just into the non-ferrous range (nickel....gold). For those that detect these things, do you find that they ring up in the positive range vs. a pure iron signal if you have a composite meteorite (nickel-iron)? Next time I get to my precious metals contact I'll have him run it through his spectral analysis machine. Best to all and HH, Zincoln
  8. Skip - see if this does you any good. It is hard. I hit it w/ the bench grinder, then a Dremel w/ a fine grinding bit, and finally tried to polish it a bit.... Appreciate any insight
  9. Those of you that go after meteorites will likely have a much better idea than i. While out metal detecting old west Nevada in the mountain southwest of Caliente, I hit on this target. It's shape is irregular, and it dose appear to have heat smoothing on the surface, particularly on leading edges. It is magnetic (when tested on my rare earth magnet), but not as strong as say a steel bar. Still clings right to the magnet. When I took a file to the surface, i get a nice silver hue (iron nickel?). Hits in the foil/nickel range on my detectors. 43g and the penny is for comparison - quite heavy for its size. Has no appearance of slag or worked metal to me. I find plenty of that along the old railroad sidings. Picture 5 may be the clearest. I do see that there are some meteor strikes North of LV, and not too far from where i was. Any other sure fire tests?
  10. I think a lot of the time its the parents....but different cultures tend to be more or less likely to wear precious metals to school. I know i have several schools in particular that kick out more gold than most.
  11. GB - I dig everything non ferrous in order to ensure I pull gold. I did find quite a few nickels, but not many in the 40's and 50's. Nothing like a 39d or 50d. Pulled close to $15 in clad. I agree on wheat pennies as i generally run 7:1 wheat to silver so this was a very good silver ratio. Looking back, I only pulled a 13d and a 20 in terms of older wheats. Seems that even though there was an active boarding school, the ranks were small until they built up the bigger dorms in the late 20s. Then, they rebuilt in the 50s/60's, and pushed all the dirt around where the original dorms and admin buildings were. I'm quite certain some goodies are a foot deep, and some under asphalt or existing buildings. I hit the old ballfield which was nearby in years past and managed around 10 silvers also, with most being 40's and 50s. I believe this is when the local store was at its peak. Our Oregon dirt really puts a stop to you after about 8-9 inches in terms of any valid VDIs, and beyond that items like dimes typically come in as iron. Don't care what detector or coil you use (though i know the eTrac crowd has had some luck on slightly deeper targets in the parks). Likely we are still registering them....but you'd dig countless nails to pull the occasional small silver. I've always loved it when I've gone somewhere with sweet soil and you suddenly find items at 12 inches - whole different world. I keep hoping for a Barber or IHC, but think after this many hours on the site my odds aren't real good. Best, Zincoln
  12. I found the skeleton key to be kinda funny. It has Washington DC emblazed on it. It's a modern momento. I do find a few from the correct era, but not this one. Class ring is WIP. The school not too far away that i expected it to belong to doesn't have anyone graduating that year that corresponds to the initials. Meaning, it may be from somewhere else in the country. Zincoln
  13. VL - the old school was 5 or 6 hunts....quite a few hours for the silver. Again, better than most any park up here and about as good as most yards I might access. The jewelry was all from one single day hunt at various schools. ZIncoln
  14. April was a fair month for me. I was able to get access to a private boarding school which operated from 1906 until 1988 and sat on 50 acres. While it wouldn't have seen lots of commerce, and while jewelry wasn't part of the environment, I still had high hopes. I know the student body was quite small until the 20s. In the end, I managed 5 silver dimes, 4 war nickels, a buff, and 20+ wheat pennies. Also found quite a lot of clad (and very few zincolns - yeah!). Lots of keys from the old dorms. It was better than most locations I hunt, and I'm sure still has a few more out there. It became clear that when new facilities were built in the 50s and 60s, lots of dirt was moved around an much of the original turf has been buried under a foot or more of fill. You could easily tell original ground from the fill when cutting plugs. At the start of May, I spent one entire day working tot lots in schools I'd ignored since the start of the pandemic. Found several nice gold items, one of which I have hopes of returning. Also found a small mountain of bling and clad. I used a mix of my Deus with the 9" X35 coil and a derivation of the hot program, and my V3i with the 10" DD coil and my custom deep program at the old school. The class ring was found with my MX Sport and 7"DD. It was a very wet April (and now May) out West. Hoping to get some warmth soon! Zincoln
  15. You know GM, with all the shooting they did on their mine site...you should be able to find plenty of spent cartridges and bullets. Seems Sarge and team sprayed some lead and there are likely some concentrated areas. Wasn't he shooting a 30-06 BAR? Other fella had a Thompson if i recall. Good chance they may have old military cartridge markings with year of mfg on the base. If you get the book published, imagine sending along a spent bullet or cartridge case along with every book in say the first 100 or 500...or during signings. I'm sure there have been a lot more rounds spent up there over the years, and no way to know with absolute certainty if what you found tied to the group...but it would be a rather fun way to promote the book and tie real history to it. Metal detectors would easily pick these out if you have a group up there, and they'd be rather shallow in general with the limited growth of plants up there. Food for thought..... Zincoln
  16. A sad day indeed. Somehow I'd had a hunch Whiskey Jack's beverage intake was going to make him the unfortunate miner. What a way to go out. Maybe that dropped cup was full of Whiskey. One can only hope he went out with a sip of his favorite beverage on his lips! Boy, you can't make this story up!!
  17. Been a while since I've commented on the thread GM. What I find so fascinating is that this story occurred in 1936, and not 1880. I have always thought of our country being pretty civilized by the 1900s. Heck, I was born only 34 years after this story. Surprising amount of gunplay going on. Just goes to show that when you have something of value, and wide open spaces with little law enforcement, you have a recipe for conflict. The fact that the Great Depression had just ended likely also added some fuel to the fire. Thx again for your generous sharing and daily updates! This is no small time commitment you've provided us all with! Brian
  18. Glad it went well for you Ghostminer. You are a trooper typing out an entry today with an eye patch!! Brian
  19. Phrunt - my first TRX was rock solid and i used it for years (in the mud, under water, etc). I put some electrical tape over the speaker to quiet it down and to mitigate any water intrusion or mud buildup and that was helpful. Finally got a leak around the power button and fried something such that it was never functionally the same. Just like you, i bought one before they were gone, and it's a little more fickle. I run mine at Power level 3 and it also gets stuck after hitting the target, on occasion. I have just learned to do a quick rebalance and move on. My biggest original problem was that it would not stay on reliably. I switched out the AA battery holder from my old machine, and the problem is basically solved. Seemed the contacts where not planar on the battery module and would not always make/stay in contact. Foam pad was new, so that wasn't the issue. Still get a little odd behavior now and then due to proper contact at startup. Probably could add a little customer foam piece and solve it...but have just learned to deal w/ the occasional hiccup. Still a great pinpointer....just wish it was as rock solid as my original. Brian
  20. I wondered the same thing. Again, I have no real knowledge in this area, but I didn't think it was common to be able to extract gram sized 'silver nuggets' from ore. This looks like some of the traditional gold veins running through quartz that we all know, but instead its silver. I've seen ore from Alaska with a fair amount of visible silver running in veins, but I also thought you typically had to pull it from ore that also often was a compound with large volumes of lead, gold, or other minerals. The two pieces I extracted that we tested had <1% of lead mixed w/ the sample. Sadly, it doesn't present as very eye catching....just a rather dull rock with oxidized silver. I suppose I could attempt to eliminate the rock strata and leave behind a silver web.
  21. GotAU - It was free, but I brought in scrap gold to get an appt. He was pretty busy. The only other place I found w/ the equipment charged $15 unless it was accompanied by a transaction. Didn't find a coin shop or pawn shop with equipment...even a rather large chain which was surprising.
  22. Well, I said I'd provide an update! Turns out it looked silver....because it is silver ore. The samples we ran through the XRT were 99% pure silver. So, very high grade silver ore. Funny thing is that there weren't any silver mines I know of anywhere near by. Guessing an old gold miner had that w/ them in the old village for some reason, and eventually tossed it out. Would be fun to have them run a trace and find out where it came from....but not worth the effort. Anyway, now I know what I have....and am better educated the next time I run across anything similar!
  23. Thank you Lanny. Should be able to get this done on Monday, and i'll let the readers know what i learned. Everything feels right, but the color isn't what one is used to. Crossing my fingers. Had a nice ore crusher made at the local iron works shop for just this occasion, so would be nice to pay it off! Pulled about 4g of material from a piece about 1/15th of the full sample. Panned out the fines after picking the 'nuggets'. Will feel silly if this ends up being something all together different.....but you gotta have hope! Did find a few little pyrite crystals that powered up when crushed in with pliers....the the bulk of this material is soft and malleable (not lead soft) and looks nothing like pyrite.
  24. I do believe many people think it comes out if the ground like that....rather alloys of Cu for Rose, and Silver for green. Always liked the accents.
  25. Thank you Gerry. I think you have at least given me high confidence I have something good here. Your darker examples are almost dead ringers for mine before i put them through the acid bath. This wasn't an ore dump...though i can't say it wasn't brought here from nearby hard rock mining, or wasn't part of some fill brought in from other nearby mines. You and I haven't met, but we share some common acquaintances, and I'm quite certain we've both put boots on some of the same ground. Could easily be that your samples and mine come from the same area. Think I'll head over to our local coin dealer this next week and have them give me a spectrum analysis. I have some other items to have them look at, so gives me an excuse to ask for a test. I'd take you up on your offer, but we've got about 300+ miles between us right now! Your response is much appreciated!
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