Doc Bach

Nice going there dsb love those surface picks!

1 hour ago, JCR said:

That is a great tool, well thought out.   I have carried a magnet in my digging pouch for years & recently epoxied one on the end cap of my pin pointer. Very handy.  Nice catch on the Quarters.

Dang JCR how come I never thought of that? I just took the magnet off of the handle of a nugget hunters pick that I no longer use and shoe gooed it to my carrot. Hopefully it will not affect the 9v battery thanks for sharing that.

Getting skunked is a big part of the hobby.That in part is why there are so many barely used detectors sitting in garages and being sold on eBay and so forth.It happens to all of us and more and more frequently it seems as time goes by.One thing that you can do is start up a collection of Ring pulls like one of our other more popular members has done.

I watched the video early this morning.I liked that they took the time to include the kids.

Added some new information and photos.

Good hunt! There is still plenty of good stuff to be had at that site.

Thanks PI-Man that makes two of us.

51 minutes ago, Ridge Runner said:

You can see for sure it had a wooden handle. Looking inside you can see the same type of a pin that you have in a shovel handle to keep it from pulling out .

 Being it’s hollow inside and not a solid point I don’t think it would take much of a beating . I guess that would depend on quality of the metal.

 Chuck 

Thank for commenting chuck.And yes as you stated it definitely had a wooden handle.The first two and a half inches with the pin are hollow but the remainng almost 4 inches is solid and quite heavy possibly filled with lead? One thing that i considered was that it was an end cap/stake for a flagpole but the hole is only I inch in diameter which is to small to support a large flag.I like to think that CPT_Ghostlight might be onto something with his Guidon stake opinion.I have been finding quite a lot of military relics and artifacts circa 1830's to mid 1860's in the area and all of the broken bottles, ceramics etc fit that time frame as well. Good to hear from you and I appreciate your wisdom.

30 minutes ago, rvpopeye said:

 Cool  Doc !  Maybe Pikes was a brand name ?   Pikes Pokin' Poles  😉

I still have a lot to learn about this old stuff and guess that's not necessarily referring to finds only........🙄

Pikes Pokin Poles? That sounds perverse Popeye!

3 hours ago, rvpopeye said:

Yup yup Doc ! 

Never heard those poles called pikes .

🤔I would have thought "pokes" more appropriate though !

I was just guessing the big rocks were from a river , guess an old glacier could have been the source too? Probably both wrong.🙄

 

You're correct Popeye poke pole is the correct nomenclature.

You cats are raking poor old uncle fester over the coals here lighten up a little!

I need more likes.

6 hours ago, JCR said:

I'm going with the New York Legion's Guidon staff point.

I like that too JCR! When I dug it out from under the Volkswagen sized boulder it had a special feel about it and still does. Pulled this old timer out of the same site today unfortunately it has nothing to say about itself.

5 hours ago, rvpopeye said:

Is the river big enough to have been used for logging ?

Poles with points like that were used to clear jams... might be one of those ?

Howdy Popeye and thanks for commenting.No River pond or navigatable waterway and no logging per say.Thats why I felt that if it's a pike pole for a longboat or johnboat or logging show it is out of place.

23 minutes ago, CPT_GhostLight said:

Possibly a guidon stake.

That would be nice I found the NYL ( New York Legion) button and other military buttons in the immediate area.Thanks CPT.

1 hour ago, JCR said:

That is a neat piece. No real telling but my first thought was a flag staff  or big tent pole spike.

Never thought about a tent stake JCR however flag pole butt cap was my third consideration.The only ones that I have personally seen or could find on the net are made of brass.

Recently while detecting around some sizable rocks I got a pretty good hit that sounded like big iron which always gets me worked up at an early site.So anyway I dug this piece out which was jammed pretty well up underneath a large boulder.My imagination runs wild sometimes with these sort of things and my first thoughts were that it was probably the tip of a pike pole or perhaps even an oxen prod since I have found ox shoes nearby.It's six inches long with the first two and a half being hollow with the pin and the rest  is solid  and it's quite heavy.Anybody out there with any thoughts please feel free to chime in.I'm aware that it's just a piece of iron but I like it and it's a little out of place and like I said the site is very early.

Like I said my imagination runs wild.

So I remembered reading an article in the September/October 2018 issue of  American Digger Magazine written by Charles Harris titled Deciphering Civil War Flagpole Brass that pictured an artifact very similar to the one that I dug.Granted the one that I lucked upon is made of iron but it could have been a replacement forged on site or elsewhere?

Y'all will have to forgive me but I am possessed by this object.

Good stuff 350>Looking forward to seeing what you will discover on your up and coming relic hunting adventure.

3 hours ago, Tom_in_CA said:

Good pictures.  Nice history.

Much obliged Tom.

26 minutes ago, schoolofhardNox said:

Nice buttons. They should clean up well. I use 50/50 water and CLR and a soft brush, and then baking soda/ water neutralizer. On the one with the iron back, I would just clean the face with that mix. That Waterbury Button factory must have made every button in the world 😆

Thanks HardNox and I will check that out.

Good stuff HardNox! I really like that triangle a lot any quartz points or artifacts are super rare everywhere.The one piece picture button is very nice also, and wow a lead shot! I thought that was a grinding or hammer stone thanks for posting.

First off good eye and you were smart to grab it and hang on to it.As a lifelong artifact hunter I would have done the very same thing. As to your question about is it an Artifact or Geofact (made by nature) that's a tough call and sometimes it's purely in the eye of the beholder.In my humble opinion without actually seeing it and more particularly handling it I would go out on a limb and say with a great deal of certainty that if it is indeed a Geofact and there were indigenous people in the area you are not the first human to pick it up and wonder the same thing.The hash or scribe marks are very intriguing and could have been added later by someone as an embellishment if it was indeed just a work of nature? Great save John and I hope that you can get some expert opinions about it.

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33 minutes ago, D&P-OR said:

As Archie Bunker said----"Dem were da days"!!!!! 🙂

You got that right D & P! And I have an 8 by 10 glossy of Edith sitting on top of my piano to prove it!

5 hours ago, okara gold said:

I grew up in NYS and back in the late 70's started metal detecting. So many places had never seen a metal detector and it was wide open hunting. Schools, parks, church grounds, etc. had your pockets bulging with old silver coins! It's not like that anymore. But these new detectors are opening up old hunted out areas again. The place I'm hunting is virgin ground.

Those were the days! Not only were our pockets full and bulging, but I remember having to make trips back to the car and empty them to prevent my pants from falling down.