Jayhop

Mine came off twice yesterday while hunting among briars and vines in the woods. The first time was only about 2 feet away from a 10 foot drop into the river. I would have been sick because the water was really moving and it was muddy. I definitely need to use a lanyard.

We are getting off topic but no, I don’t think it's an issue with the machine. On 5 tone programs the lower tones bleed over into the higher tones creating a terrible sound.

I tested mine last night, everything was the same as before the update. No loss of death. I still can't create a usable 5 tone program that sounds as good as the equinox on my deep coins.

Thanks for the response. I do have bottle caps off, Silencer 0, all the tricks. It's just that the equinox gives better tones on all three 11in coins than the Deus II. I'm taking about a 5 tone program. It does ok on the dime and quarter in some program but the nickel sounds terrible. If a program like Park reports a good audio on the nickel then the dime reports a good tone but surrounded by a terrible iron buzz. For now I will use Deep HC in pitch or 5 tones. It doesn't do good on the nickel in five tones but it is very accurate on the HC IDs. I really want to be able to hunt by tones.

In Deep HC (modified) it is very deep on coins, especially in the silver range. As deep or deeper than the equinox. It's just that I haven't been able to come up with a 5 tone program that sounds as good on all my deep coins as the equinox 800 does.

I did a 5 tone Park program this evening that gave an acceptable tone on the deep nickel. But, the ID was way off. It was giving a 92 on it. And on top of that it gave a nice high tone on the deep dime. But that high tone was surrounded by a very annoying iron buzz. Which would make you think it is iron. For now I will hunt in Deep HC 5 tone which doesn't give a great audio on the nickel or in Deep HC pitch which gives the best audio and ID on all my deep coins but doesn't allow you to hunt by audio response without constantly checking the numbers. Please XP, make some changes. At least equal Minelab.

The thing is that the equinox sounds really good on this nickel with an accurate ID. But I can't create a five tone program on the Deus II that will, And still be useful for hunting by tones that is. The Deus II actually gives a better ID and audio response from different angles on my deep dime than the equinox. Especially when I Deep HC. If it wasn't for the Deep HC program I wouldn't be happy at all with the Deus.

They would have to be better that the backphones I would think, and they are waterproof to 1m. I have already pre-order.

That is my point. It's not that the machine won't hit nickels, it's just that when using a 3, 4 or 5 tone program the deeper nickels at 11 inches or so sound terrible. Like it's trying to call it iron and a nonferrous low conductor at the same time. But the equinox IDs it and sounds good.

Well to me it's hard to believe. As far as the ID, the best I remember no it wasn't very accurate. While testing in mono sometime there was no ID, this is on deep coins. For accurate ID, The Deep HC program is the best I have ever seen on deeper coins on any detector.

Thanks for the suggestion, I tried it in my test garden and the audio report was a little soft on my coins, even with the audio response turned up. I tried Deus mono tonight in my garden. It is fairly stable and gave a good response on all my coins in a 5 tone program. Was switching between 17 to 25 khz. The only problem is that it gave a very high ID on the nickel. I hate to even post this but it was giving a good audio response 5 to 6 inches above an 11" quarter.

To me they will be useful when wading using the wire to RC. When wading I rarely get the control pod fully below water. But occasionally I do have to go underwater to retrieve the target. Plus when beach hunting they will block noise and won't be damaged if dropped in the serf. The manual say IP68 1m.

I'm definitely not interested in modern nickels. But modern nickels,older nickels, some gold rings and some buttons all produce the same ID, around 59 to 62.

I just saw the Quest headphones in-stock. The price has gone up $30 from the dealer where I bought mine. The WSAII-XL headphones are $200 and they are waterproof to 3 feet I believe.

I agree, overall is a better machine. I just hope some update improves the situation I have described.

I understand what you mean but I relic hunt and yes I would like to find the older nickels and low conductors such as some buttons.

Some people may wonder what the big deal is..... The deal is that for $1600 I expect the Deus II to perform at least as well as the equinox. I know it was never claimed that it would but you would think so. Overall I think it will be proven to be a better machine, especially as far as build quality and reliability. But for me as of now the tones aren't as good as the equinox (On deeper coins). Especially if your second tone break is using low Hz.

The tone on my 11" nickel with the equinox is really good. And the ID is 11 to 12 which is very accurate. The ID on the same coin using the Deus II in Deep HC is also very close although it does bounce around more.

The park program is my second choice afterDeepHC. But again, on the deeper nickel at 11" in 5 tones the ID drops down into the second tone break around 35. Which will produce a low tone. Deep HC gives the most stable and accurate ID IMO and testing.

I agree with all you are saying. My third tone break is about 65. What im trying to achieve is a program on the Deus II that sounds as good on all three coins as the equinox does using 5 tones. Again this is on deeper coins that even on the Equinox only sound good at one direction, not 360 degrees.

Correct, if Deep HC did a little better on the Deep low conductors I would just go with that in the 5 tone program.

My soil is mild and using Deep HC the tones are clean on the dime and quarter. The reason for the clean tones in Deep HC 5 tones is that the IDs are very accurate. But Deep HC doesn't report very well on the Deep low conductors, tones are broken. I'm just trying to find a program that will work as well on all coins as the equinox does in my Park 1 program on the deeper coins.

I'm have but will try it again, but really need a five tone like the equinox.

I understand what you are saying. I really want to get away from Minelab products. Been using them for 14 years but I'm done.

In short, I'm talking about the Deus II tones on deeper coins. I mainly hunt farm fields where coins can go deep, so at times the depth of a detector is very important to me. I test all my detectors on three coins I have in my test garden. The nickel, dime and quarter are at 10 1/2 to 11 inches deep and have been buried for 3 years and 4 months. The stock programs on the Equinox 800 and the Deus II don't do well on these coins. With very few adjustments to the Equinox 800 each of these coins sounds very sweet. The ID is very close on the nickel, it's a little low on the quarter and jumps up on the dime. The Deep High Conductor program on the Deus II does very well on the dime and quarter as it should and does ok on the nickel but not great. This is using a 5 tone program. Using pitch they all sound better but the nickel is still a little broken. Using pitch isn't what I want to do all the time. The low conductors close to the surface cost me a lot of time because they sound really good. So I want a five tone program so I can hunt by tone and not have to check the numbers continuously. I discriminate to 6.8 and set the second tone break at 45 with a 100 HZ tone. The problem is that in all programs except Deep HC the dime and quarter IDs bounce back and forth between the 30s and 90s. This gives a very unpleasant tone. I don't see a solution. Any ideas?