PSPR

5 minutes ago, UT Dave said:

Just make the Manticore manual available.  Announce that.  Announce "something".  

- Dave

I was told Wednesday by Customer Service that the manual may not be released until the detector is released.

(Trade Secrets in the Manual?)

13 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said:

Stylized Zs, 1+1+2+2+2=8

Could be skins for the Manticore like they have for the Go Find.  I really don't care for the "skins" unless it would make it invisible to others around you.  Stealth Detecting.

There is a new Manticore discussion video on facebook that is impressive.  This guy got to use it at a competition and explains a little about the helpfulness of the Target Trace feature.   It's on this page.  Just scroll down a little to see it.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1439960826505437

Darn it!!  I guess I'll jump through their hoop one more time.

What if they are going to release two machines on the same day?  A GPZ and the Manticore.  "Good Things Come In Twos."

1 hour ago, phrunt said:

The Nox is that good I can justify paying double the price (which the Manticore is here) for an improved more reliable version of it.  The big jump was always going to be the Nox, and the Manticore just being further refined.  I really like Target Trace on my CTX so a bonus having a similar thing on the new Nox.

They have shown a lot of confidence in Multi-IQ making a new model using it already when the FBS2 CTX is far older and the one you would think would be due for replacement especially being the top of the line.

While I don't expect miracles out of the Manticore I'll be satisfied with just a better quality Nox with a few extra bells and whistles and perhaps if I'm lucky a bit of a performance boost.  My initial disappointment is the lack of the little 6" coil though so I doubt I can retire my Nox.

This morning Minelab sent me a spam email with the same good things come in twos obscure marketing.

Where it says "its better the second time around" that really makes me think of the Nox ver2.

Somebody said they see Z's throughout the video.  The 2's, the sideways logo, etc.  I'll give them that.  If it isn't the Manticore release on 12/1 it will be coming soon regardless but I'm not going to jump through any more hoops for the Minelab psych marketing team.  Unless I just did.  

I'm so glad he found the owner and returned it.  That had to make EVERYONE'S day.

3 minutes ago, schoolofhardNox said:

I stopped watching other forums and stay here because of the people here. Way less drama. 😄 Even though we overly greatly focus on a new arrival, the threads do have some good value. Not much gets by the people here when it comes to new information. For that I am grateful. But the reality of how machines are released (or not released - as in the AQ debacle), I'm coming to grow weary of over sensitizing myself to the hype. I don't need anymore stress than I already have. 😆 As soon as I get mine I will post a little about it. As for what I can gather from the machine, I will probably be selling my Nox and CTX. The E Trac stays unless the Manticore scores deep silver better. Gotta love this forum for the knowledge that is available here.

I've got to agree with you about this forum.  There are a lot of mature, knowledgeable people here.  I appreciate the knowledge and insight they provide.  Alas, I am probably the least mature of the lot here.  Quite a feat for an old man.   

6 minutes ago, schoolofhardNox said:

Agreed. Hence why I decided to not post much about new products from Minelab, since everything is speculation. We know nothing about the Manticore even after watching some of the worst videos about it 😄 I rather just buy it and find out for myself. But that's just me. Kind of tired too with the hype, lack of information, and drawn out releases -  from all companies.

I'm sure they read the posts on the 4 or 5 MD forums that still exist and it must make them laugh profusely to watch all of us chase our tails as they string us along.

Minelab's announcement of an announcement has certainly accomplished their goal - Make it vague and confusing enough to get everyone talking about Minelab products.

I'm not fond of Minelab's marketing tactics.  It feels like a big game to them and I really don't want to play anymore.

Right basstrackerman.

The date is made from the skin of a Manticore.
Better the Second Time Around refers to the improved Multi-IQ.
Good things come in twos refers to the Equinox at $800 and the Manticore at $1600.

It can be none other than the Manticore release.

I just bought a Fisher F-probe for the range.  It will react to a quarter about 5 inches away and you can detune it or lower the range for a regular target search in the hole.  You can't find the whites probes anymore.

Regarding the announcement, do you really think Minelab would make an announcement about an announcement for something less anticipated than the Manticore?  I doubt it.

In the brief video on their facebook page they say "Good Things Come In Twos".  Are they going to give us 2 Manticores for the price of one?  Or is this going to be an announcement of the ML-105 headphones (they have two earmuffs)?

If they give me 2 Manticores for $1600 I'll be happy to wait another month for delivery.

Also, in that video, they turn the Minelab logo on it's right side.  I can only guess that it makes it sort of look like a detector.  I don't know why else they would do that.

Maybe they will give us an Equinox 800 or 600 with each Manticore we buy?  (Not likely)

Reading the threads around the time the Equinox was released, if I recall, on December 2nd they made an announcement that the Nox would be released around the end of December.  Then they did the same in early January announcing an end of month release.  I hope they don't say something like that next week.

8 minutes ago, Jeff McClendon said:

Zed

Zero Emission Detector?  LOL

21 minutes ago, phrunt said:

The font text they used looks like what I'd think a Manticore skin would look like 

🙂

 

The color tones are similar, also, to the previous Manticore tease on their facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/MinelabMetalDetectors/photos/a.795474293826123/8527882333918575/?__cft__[0]=AZUWBI2Z2xD5EWPMXhEm5rg2YYGtUEv1rbiYj9-s8QK9khc3SU6ewpeuC6MlA22FirBjY0BRL6CwjOMzyArxjkYTr9o5yDGFNMnzWqrkMVkcWRZAF4FcGyDc-_IEWE_YT1L_i4Mo-gb54jYrz8b94zxy2ZaewojVmrpR63PRSDku1rspFXC2xehvm_A8bIU00Ao&__tn__=EH-R"

But the Equinox had serious flaws with the breaking coil tab and leaks yet no updated model of the Nox was ever released unless you call the Manticore it.

I can really only conclude this will be the release announcement of the Manticore next week.

12 minutes ago, phrunt said:

..... and it's not just the date of the release announcement.......

I don't know if I would laugh or cry if today's announcement was the announcement of the announcement next week to announce the date of the release announcement.  LOL

My dealer said the first wave of Manticores will be going out soon.  Not sure if he has some more info from Minelab or just speculating.

Of course, we've heard this word "soon" since last August.

Here is what Minelab Customer Service just told me.

"The MANTICORE manual is expected to be published online soon and prior to customers receiving units."

"Thank you for your enquiry regarding the cryptic announcement posted today; it is a mystery to me also."

41 minutes ago, Geordiedan said:

One of the UK dealers has been quoted saying that's not the Manticore release, but a separate announcement from Minelab 😮 

That would be the biggest bonehead move by Minelab in their history.  To announce an announcement and it not be the Manticore release might make me pull my Manticore order for real.  I don't believe Crawfords knows.

UPDATE:  I contacted Minelab and told them to clarify their announcement because if it isn't the Manticore release, and people are being told that it isn't,  customers are going to be POed.  I also asked them to get the Manticore manual posted.  Surely they have the final version.

There is still no manual posted on the Manticore page.  I'm wondering if this has anything to do with calling the screen plot "Target Trace."  Since it isn't an actual trace of the target, as has been pointed out by several on this forum, could they not want to put out such information until it is released? The reason being that they don't want the manual immediately disputing what they have been saying about Target Trace before it is released.

2 minutes ago, Luis said:

Could it be that there are two manticore models just like the Equinox 600 and 800?

I doubt it for two reasons.

1.  There was only one model revealed at the trade shows.  and

2. Saying, "....it’s better the second time around." implies they are referring to something already out in the market.

For Americans, that date is December 1, 2022, not January 12.  Along with this non-descript video they stated,

"On 1.12.22 you’ll find out why it’s better the second time around."

No mention of the Manticore and unsure what they are referring to as the second time around unless they are comparing it to the Nox.

Anyway, we can probably take this as a December 1st release of the Manticore.

Yeeeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!

21 minutes ago, UtahRich said:

Uh Oh !  Best not to let this leak out just before Christmas PSPR - Pretty sure you've just relegated yourself to the Minelab NAUGHTY LIST and will therefore get BUMPED to the back of the Manticore waiting line.  Minelab expects patience and LOYALTY from their dedicated customers.

Unrelated  - growing up, did you ever catch Santa Claus in the act?  😉

UtahRich - 

Minelab will need to do a lot of sleuthing to figure out who I am from my unrelated moniker.   Texas is a big place to search.

19 minutes ago, phrunt said:

....... the Manticore announcement was there to stop Deus 2 and Legend sales.  I like the way the Deus 2 was released, took us all by surprise.

But all this from Minelab got me to buy a Legend as a backup because I didn't want to buy a Nox and have the little brother to the Manticore.  I've mostly been home learning it because the weather here has been wet and cold the last two weeks.  I may get to a lake beach with it this week though.

Let's take a deep dive on Minelab shipments to the U.S.  Free data on this site shows two larger than average shipments in early November to the U.S.  However, they are from Singapore, not Malaysia.

https://www.importgenius.com/suppliers/minelab-electronics-pty-ltd

This page shows those November shipments were metal detectors sent through the Tacoma WA port

https://importkey.com/i/minelab-electronics-pty-ltd

Of course, no where are these detectors labeled Manticores and they could be anything from Minelab.

Thanks, Jeff and phrunt, for your insights.