TJ Jeepguy

I have used the 11” coil since I got my machine from ore-order however long ago that was. I got pretty used to the sounds and VDI variability of large or flat iron.   I just got the 9” and have been trying it on my heavy iron sites, but noticed  a notable increase in iron falses. Not just in sound but also in solid VDI’s with every setting and mode possible.  To confirm it wasn’t just that day’s ground conditions, I put the 11” back on and went over the same spots.  The 11” also sounded off on the iron,  but didn’t give as pure a VDI or tone as the 9”.  
 

I have no conclusions, just wanted to give my observations.  🤷‍♂️. I’m also willing to accept the brand of crazy person for this. 😀

18 minutes ago, Chase Goldman said:

Thanks.  (and Thanks 67GTA).  When I suspect falsing in Deep HC or General (my two main search programs), I just switch on over to Relic with IAR on 5 to see if it resolves to a ferrous tone.  That plus turning on the target pretty much solves falsing.  As far as iron VDI and non-ferrous tone, fine, I'll take my chances on that one.  Again, the shifting over to relic resolves it one way or the other.  If it sill rings non-ferrous regardless of vdi, then I will dig it.

I’ve been spending some time with Relic and have been very impressed with its abilities in situations as you described.  Definitely an underutilized program by me. General is on my list for experimentation.  

And I also hope it’s not 0.72!  But if it is at least our custom programs should migrate over during the update😀

I frequently experience vdi’s of 7 or 9 (never 8 ) with good non-ferrous tone.  Some have been small iron with a small or thin non-ferrous, and some have just been very small iron with some symmetry In their shape. And that is regardless of tone choice other than full tones.  Full tones just doesn’t know how to act or react yet. It’s like a hyperactive teen at his first job.   

However in Deep HC, small or large iron will false in both VDI and tone running stock discrim , but lowering the descrim will make that same target false in tone but read a 7 or 9 VDI. I haven’t noticed that in any other program, but I haven’t dwelled too much on it. 
 

It’s possibly a livery button.  The bird may not be an eagle, as many livery buttons or crests feature anything from ostriches to sparrows. Very cool find and I hope you let us know when you ID it. 

PWM definitely plays better with my damaged ears. Tone variations are much more pronounced to me with PWM whereas square variations blend together if I can even discern a variation at all.  

5 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

Thanks TJ. Chase calls that area the "gold belt", there might well be some in the Hazel River that flows through the farm. I have no idea how you would get in there, but you also might get some CW relics as well. Hope you get a chance!

I'm used to hunting my area where there is no gold, and "them thar hills" are maybe 200' max. 🤣 All my terrain is flat for the most part.

That area is definitely in the eastern gold belt. I’m in western PA where there may be a spec or 2 if you’re lucky, but I still enjoy the thrill of the find.  Mostly I enjoy showing the few specs I get to my friends and family just to prove I’m not crazy. 
 

I plan to head down to the Rappahannock  river for a weekend this spring to do a little recreational panning and hopefully detecting if I can. The campground owner says I’m welcome to do both, but I’m pretty sure I’ll have better luck finding gold and old bullets at a local pawn shop 😀.  Should be a nice weekend away with my wife at least. 

Good to know it did well in that dirt. I hope to get down that way sometime to detect and maybe pan for a little flour gold. 

The brass piece is most likely a part of a clock. I find lots of those in mid-late 1800’s sites.  I’m not real sure about the iron piece. 

22 hours ago, F350Platinum said:

I do that with the Carrot, but not with the MI-6. The MI-6 in my opinion is far superior to all the pinpointers I've used, and it's a bonus to me to hear it in the headphones. I use pitch audio instead of pulse, and there is no hiss. You only hear it when you turn it on.

It might be a bit flaky, but it hits stuff very deep and I can use it to keep holes at a minimum if I have to. I run it at full sensitivity all the time. 🙂

I’m a fan of the sensitivity allowance of the MI6 on the D2.  I also run it full and do find that it rings in some of my local soils, but remember that if you turn it on in a clean pile of the same soil it balances itself. 

I never really broke it down before, but I guess I spend a couple hours per acre on initial searches to get an idea of what’s there.  If I find anything of interest, I stay till my wife calls and says it’s time to go home. 

I’ve been using the 11 since I got the machine way back when and just got a 9” today. Wow what a difference in the swing!  Now I can’t decide if I should sell the 11 to get the 11x13 or not. I like a notable size difference in my coil choices on hand. 

Thanks

So the small Apple Watch screen is the same size or does it fit close enough

1 hour ago, Lodge Scent said:

I agree 100% TJ. There are instances where filters will better alert you to targets than using no filters. Actually in a very real sense, EVERY single setting in a detector is a filter of some sort. If you hunt in 4kHz, you will filter out a lot of small low conducting buttons. If you run Reactivity at 5, you will filter out that Large Cent at 11 inches. I ran my D1 wide open most of the time, but seeing how Park with its high iron filters sniffed out some deep iron-masked goodies, that caught my attention. Sure other programs with less or no filtering could sometimes hit those masked targets AFTER I knew there was something there and I could work the coil around the target. But with a normal coil swing and not knowing there was something there, those other programs just didn't respond in a way to make me stop and investigate further. The brain is indeed the best filter, but it can be enhanced with thoughful applications of the detector's filters. 

Well said. Park is an intriguing program to say the least. The wide open approach seams to produce pretty good sounding false signals in bent or large iron in my dirt. Deep HC run the same way also falses quite a bit, but larger iron at least is more audibly apparent. 
 

Park is an interesting creature.  Maybe it’s the frequency range, maybe it’s the  program processes?  Either way, it’s  clearly worth spending a bit more time on.  

I’d still like to see a computer interface that would allow importing, exporting, and customizing programs.  Sure it’s easy enough to do on the control unit, but it would be great to have the ability to come back from the field and either revert back to a custom program or store a new variant.   Even more, it would be great if program settings could be migrated through a utility from an older machine version to the latest one. 

I think some well managed filter parameters could have benefit in some instances, even for an experienced person on the machine. But I still remain a fan of running no user controllable filters.  

I’m guilty of setting filter settings of programs to their zero point with the thought that the filters may hide a target, but I may need to start letting the machine do a little more work now and then😀

Thanks guys this is interesting. Park is a program that seems to take a back seat to the sensitives and deep HC for general hunting and discussions.  

Has anyone found the current park program ,or it as a base for a custom program, to be at all better in a detecting location? I’ve experimented with it constantly in various scenarios and have not really come to a conclusion on it yet.  I’d like to hear your opinions.  

I run a couple custom programs (fast and deep HC) with full tones as my primary search modes.  However I also have similar programs next to them set to Pitch for the purpose of verifying an iffy full tone signal.
 

  I love the tone variation/modulation both tone choices provide on odd shaped objects or large iron, but have found that a higher reactivity (3+) in full tones will make an iron false much crisper and sound more like a good nonferrous target.  I try to keep my ft programs at 2.5 or less.  Pitch seems to still give a decent tone modulation with higher reactivities.  Just my experience and thoughts 

I’m guessing he we’ll see an XP video demonstrating/explaining  the new update a while before it’s released to us.  I was one of those guys that pre-ordered the D2, so I’m pretty used to being patient with this machine.   Can’t complain much at all about the current version!   But there are a few legitimate things that have been hashed out here and elsewhere that should be addressed, and I’m quite sure they will be   Until then, I’ll keep swinging the current version with a great deal of confidence   

Incredible achievement!  Congratulations 

My wife is certain that the best detector is the first one I spent too much money on. 

I’m not retired yet and have to be at work at 5 am tomorrow 😀.  I have some thoughts and questions I’ll post tomorrow on the current D2 full tones vs pitch.  Looking forward to the thoughts and experiences from others