tboykin
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That article seems like bait.
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On 9/4/2017 at 7:28 PM, Steve Herschbach said:
I know LOTS of them that don't. It's entirely possible given the number of people I know that MOST serious prospectors do not post on the internet. I don't think however whether people post or not has any correlation with what brand of detector they use.
I think you could argue that the more someone pays for a luxury good the more likely they are to go online for guidance in using the product. They are then less removed from posting success stories as affirmation of their purchase (and also as an affirmation to the people who helped them along the way).
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Some of the best prospectors in the world will never be known because they don't trust the Internet with all of their secrets...
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Hey guys, just added some SGT's for half price - https://www.whiteselectronics.com/product/sierra-gold-track-old-stock/
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V3i's are almost gone but VX3's are still a good bet.
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Sold out in 2 hours. But if you have a TDI or GMT we have some coils that are killer deals -
https://www.whiteselectronics.com/product/950-style-concentric-for-gmt-super-pulse/
https://www.whiteselectronics.com/product/14-white-gmt-coil/
https://www.whiteselectronics.com/product/14-gmt-super-pulse/
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On 8/30/2017 at 1:52 PM, MikePfeiffer said:
As Steve said " Where is the V3i stuffed in MX Sport case ". I have to agree. However, with some nice additions.
1 Wireless headphones
2 Lithium battery pack with house and auto battery charger also an optional AA battery pack.
3 Easy to read display. Possibly OLED
4 Keep the weight below 4 pounds. Better if 3 pounds.
5 Good coil selection. 6 x 9, 11, 15 inch DD and a Bigfoot coil for Steve.
6 Increase the search depth to 12 to 13 inches.
7 All of the above included for the price of $999.99
Remember not to rely on products of the past to keep a company alive. Innovate for the future. You have great resources just at this forum.
Mike
Good points and well-noted.
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I think Mark's coupon was due to his recent 'FINDS' submission. White's sometimes rewards customers who make great finds and do a proper write-up.
But if you submit a find with a Minelab or Garrett - NO SOUP FOR YOU!
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This is a huge part of my guiding principle in my new position - a company should design what the customers need. Everything else is a waste of time. Of course you can't figure out what people need just by asking... but it's a good start!
I don't think it is sufficient for manufacturers to slap an accessory on an existing product and sell it as new any more. Truly new technology is where it's at.
Looking forward to the discussion and hope some of the forum members here will chime in.
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Long time no post! Been busy with my new responsibilities at White's.
Just wanted to let you know that White's is donating 10% of all factory internet sales from 08-28-17 to 9-04-17 (through whiteselectronics.com) to the Red Cross to help them with the current crisis in Texas. I'm very surprised the flooding is so underreported in the news - few people realize how bad things are down in Houston right now. I guess politics is a bigger sales tool for some of the networks.
Anyways, even if you don't need anything detecting-related please donate blood or help the Red Cross in their efforts - https://www.redcross.org/donate/hurricane-harvey?campname=Harvey&campmedium=aspot
Steve if this is not kosher I apologize. I have some friends down there and just wanted to spread the word. They need all the help they can get right now.
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7 hours ago, Tortuga said:
Be a great spot for a GPZ, those are lethal on species.
And somebody get that guy with tennis shoes a pair of boots!
A lot of the gold at Briggs is larger, so something that is light and easy to swing on a 45 degree hillside (and easy to pack in) really helps. There was a guy with a GPX there but most of the crew was using TDI SLs.
Luckily the tennis shoes held up, but the gentleman did mention he'd bring boots next time!
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Last weekend I got to tag along with Josh and Tom Bohmker, and a few other knowledgable miners. The destination was the Briggs Pocket in Southern Oregon. This was not an easy hike for some of the crew, but we all made it out and back. We did have one guy fall down a steep slope, but Josh was able to catch him before he tumbled down to the bottom.
The video tells some of the history of this famous pocket mine as well as how Josh and his family have used modern P.I. detectors to recover the gold left on the hillside by previous generations of miners. Of all types of metal detecting for gold, I would count pocket hunting as the most difficult - due to the terrain, research, and extensive geology knowledge required. It's something not many people have the patience for (me included), so I have to say I admire the gumption of the Bohmker family - they discovered the Briggs Pocket just two weeks before another party and have pulled a lot of gold out of their claim.
The gold from the Briggs Pocket tends to be spongey and interwound with the host rock (quartz). I will post some journal excerpts at the bottom of this post in case you'd like to read some historical accounts as well. But here's the video:
Every time I see Josh and Tom I learn so much about the geology of gold. Anyone who has an interest in pocket hunting might want to look them up. They do go on regular expeditions with folks, which I believe they run through their website.
I thought you guys might like a virtual tour of the Briggs Pocket - since this forum is where I got started on my journey of searching for gold.
HISTORICAL ACCOUNTS
Briggs History: (As recorded by the Mining Review, Salt Lake City, Utah bi monthly publication)
June 30, 1904Discovery of a mammoth pocket near the head waters of sucker creek, forty miles south of Grants Pass. The discovery was made by the two sons of David Briggs, while out hunting, and was purely accidental as they stumbled across it while trailing a deer. They have already brought in $6,000 from the pocket, and believe they will bring as much more before the glory hill is emptied. Much of the gold was in great slabs as big as a man's hand, and all of it came from a shallow cut, but three feet wide, three feet deep, and but six feet in length.July 15th, 1904The Rush is still on to the new Eldorado up in the siskiyous, beyond Holland, and on the Oregon California line. I took the fever and joined the caravan, mainly for the purpose of satisfying a curiosity, but not an idle one, for it is to severe a strain on a scribblers physical make up to climb twenty miles almost straight up just to see what is going on over the divide. .........................We found about 100 men scattered about the head of Thompson and Indian creeks, a number of whom had taken up claims. A townsite has been surveyed, and the town will be know as "Goldenview City"The strike made by Briggs has already taken out $25,000 in gold. Contented in the truth that want will never more drive them out of unbefitting toil, they are satisfied with the life of the mountains. Here is the freedom no other land can give, the genuine freedom of the western outer world. It was these mountains that gave up bountifully from their long hidden treasures. And they who were so fortunately endowed with not forget the giver. _ Dennis H StovallRecords indicate that this was worked for two seasons, and there was a group that braved the winter and worked through. In the end, the strike led to a rush up there of over 2000 men, almost everything was claimed up, and many smaller strikes were made within the vicinity. I don't think the town of Goldenview ever came to pass. They (Briggs) sold the claim and staked a new claim not far away. A company from Chicago invested substantial money into developing the mine, but turned up nothing, or at least not enough to be profitable. By June of 2005, there was no more reports on the Briggs strike.-
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On 7/24/2017 at 8:27 PM, johnedoe said:
Not bad for stock settings I guess....
Would be interesting to see what setting was needed to improve the performance though.
I will have to give that a try with my MXT and V3i with the different coils I have and of course the settings possible with the V.
John,
You can easily improve the MX Sport's by enabling REJ VOL (iron audio) at about 30 and also taking one point of iron disc off, just below zero. These were tweaks I made in the field when Monte challenged me to take this test that helped the coin pop out a bit better. His Nokta's had some adjustments made specifically for this test, and I was kind of surprised at how the MX Sport performed without doing anything special.
The whole point of this video was to show the detector's performance with this standardized test - even for people who's only adjustment is the power button. An expert can setup almost any machine in a specific situation like this, but the reality is that most people just want a turn on and go machine.
Tom
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My personal preference after using the first gen TDI, TDI Pro, and SL is the SL. It's light, affordable, and works where VLFs will not. I also use it to hunt deep silver that other people can't reach. You can use a combination of the ground balance and conductivity switch to knock out iron and cherry pick other targets.
I know everyone likes Minelab here, which I get - it's a prospecting board first and foremost and they focus on gold machines. But you name me another ground-balancing pulse machine for under $1200 (and under 4lbs) that can do what the TDI SL can do and I will go without my coffee tomorrow!
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On 7/18/2017 at 4:13 AM, fishersari said:
Hi guys ,
Tq for the reply, now it getting clearer, and what the difference between coin jewelry + salttrack on mode and beach mode, using both at beaches
Pro tip that has helped me out in farm fields and hot ground - enabling salt track in any mode results in quieter operation and more stable signals. But requires a slightly slower sweep speed to allow the ground tracking to track the big changes in ground conditions.
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17 hours ago, sod said:
The 7" coil floats too.
GL&HH
Sod
Really? When I use that coil to hunt swimming areas it feels pretty neutral. It's epoxy-filled so it should sink. Feels a lot less resistant to water too.
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21 minutes ago, GB_Amateur said:
I can't weigh in on what you have, but in my experience, an ohm-meter isn't a good discriminator for metals. I looked up some electrical resistivities (mostly pure metals) and then did some measurements with my (admittedly cheapo) multimeter. To put things in perspecdtive, at room temp, gold is quite low in resistivity (not as much as copper or silver, but close). 'Brass' (don't know which alloy) is 3 times higher ( = worse conductor). 'Bronze' is a factor of 2 worse than brass. Lead is another factor of 3 times brass. Titanium is again a factor of more than 2 worse than lead. Yet I have pieces of all of these (exept gold
) and they all measure resistance (not resistivity, though) at 0 on the meter. The meter's precision is 0.1 ohms, so I conclude that these pieces all have the same resistance within about 0.05 ohms.
A clean sample of uniform composition should read pretty reliably on an fluorescence X-ray spectrometer ("XRF analysis"). The poor man's method (which includes me) is to use Archimedes Principle to find the density and then use that to rule things in or out. Gold has such a high density ('specific gravity') that unless alloyed <~50% it's distinguishable from most metals, and all the metals in its density ballpark (from what I know) are quite valuable except for tungsten.
I've read here that some coin shops have XRF spectrometers and the nice ones will analyze a sample for free. You strike me as a sweet talker -- I bet one of them will do it for you!
There is a company in California that advertises in the ICMJ that will do it for $25 per sample. (Read their fine print, though, if you decide to go that route.)
Awesome info, thank you. There's a coin shop here I can take it to. My plan is to slam the nuggies on the table and say "I'll sell ya this gold for $100!" At which point the shop owner will scoff and say "That's not gold!" Then I will say "PROVE IT BUDDY!" Free test achieved.
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10 hours ago, OregonGregg said:
tboykin, congrats on the nuggets. Hope they pan out to be the real deal. It also showed me that I guess I had better stick to finding old coins. The only gold I may ever find will be round and have a date stamped on it. When you stopped and showed them to me......I would have never guessed them as gold.
And yes it was fun seeing that girl find her 1st silver coin with the MX Sport. She was so excited , she was shaking. Also, there are a few post/pics over at Monte's site about that weekend.
Same here. Your coin collection was amazing to see. Something I will never match! Nice meeting you and when you stop by the factory next please don't be a stranger.
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19 minutes ago, IdahoPeg said:
Wow...some nice finds! Way to go if those bigger ones are gold.....I've been tricked when detecting in hard rock gravels/sulfides, ended up being weird copper mix byproducts in my case. Hope yours are the real deal! :-)
Thanks - I plan on having these checked by a local shop to make sure they are legit. These were down on a flat bench right above the confluence of two rivers. I won't know for sure they are gold until I have them professionally tested.
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What a weekend! I had the opportunity to head out to Idaho for an event put on by Spud Diggers/Ultimate Metal Detectors and meet some members of this forum who attended. Great group of guys on an old Chinese gold mine with an old townsite. Many layers of history going back from the 1870s to the 1930s, and lots of tin - yuck!
I followed the Oregon Trail out there, and planned to represent the White's factory at the event since we were sponsoring the event. My fingers were crossed for relics, but I knew that since it was an active mine years ago there was a chance at finding some other types metal. So I brought it all - TDI SL, GMT, V3i, TreasurePro, and of course my go-to the MX Sport. Pretty quickly after running the TDI and GMT I realized that I would need a good discriminator and a strong magnet to get through the tin.
The first thrill I got was seeing a newbie (Maddie) dig her first signal with an MX Sport - a 1940 Merc on the side of the road by camp. She was shaking when I caught up with her after hearing her holler out loud! Oregon Gregg was hitting IHP's and everyone was finding relics left and right with a few coins thrown in.
Even I was finding some buttons, bullets, and a nice little pewter teacup from a child's play set.
I found a flat area that looked like a prime spot where two creeks met. The area had been hydraulic mined, as well as dredged, with hard-rock mines in the area. I got a bunch of strange lower-conducting signals with the MX Sport and decided to dig one. They were about 6-7 inches down and rang up in the foil/nickel range on the MX Sport. My newly purchased HoeDag made quick work and the TRX helped me out since the targets were pretty small.
What came out looked like a crusty booger. Underneath the crust it had a dull yellow shine.
The mining report I read mentioned several different types of processes the miners used throughout the 80 years of active work, so I kept three pieces I dug from the same hole for examination later. There were other signals in that area to investigate but I had high hopes for a Chinese coin so I moved on. The rest of the hunt was awesome - lots of miles on my boots, awesome company, great food, and memories to last!
After I got home I was too curious to wait, so I broke out the peroxide and a brush and got to work. Somewhere I lost the small BB-sized piece in the field photo between my fingers. But the bigger pieces made it home. Here's the finished product:
I will admit I got a little shaky when I saw them start to shine in the peroxide.
I got to meet Gerry from Boise on my trip, great guy and I figured I owed him this shot with the 2.5 grammer.
Every time I find something new I get more and more hooked by this hobby. Thanks to forums like this, Ultimate Metal Detector, and of course WHITE'S ELECTRONICS, I can mark this off my bucket list. It took me over a year... but it was totally worth it! I was getting pretty frustrated at all of the skunks, and to find this much gold with the MX Sport, well, I feel pretty damn lucky!
I need to do a little more digging to see what the crud on the outside was, but there was a lot of sulphide-bearing quartz in the area. I would guess that these nuggets were a result of some kind of refinement and processing and they were just missed by the old-timers. But I know where I'm going the next time I'm in Idaho...
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Steve as always is spot-on. If you are somewhat new to detecting I would run a low (or NO) threshold. When you get used to that increase it and enable the REJ VOL to hear all the iron in the ground. It can let you know where to slow down and pick through a spot.
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We are just about sold out on these already. Should have more soon. Did not expect them to go so fast!
These are made by a real nice guy who contacted us on Facebook. They are laser cut and have a nice finish, plus you are supporting an individual when you buy these, not a giant corporation. His hand-written note to the factory when he sent us some samples to evaluate was a nice touch as well.
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I think it's good they are taking the time to tweak it.
Kinda feel bad for the dealers who took preorders so early, but at least they can offer an MX Sport to those who don't want the summer to slip away before getting a new detector.
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I agree. Whoever wrote it should work on their sense of humor!