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  1. Sometimes targets are deep. That is the 15" coil and I had 6-7 more inches from the top of the sand to the half can target. And then there are targets not so deep. That is the silver ring there with a green heart stone. It was down 8-9 inches. A nice sunrise ... and all of the finds.
  2. I just posted a topic about finally finding some gold after several times to the beach. I found more than that this time. Just after I found the only ring of the session I looked up and saw an awful sight. The beach area I was now in is an 'all night' area and someone had been there through the night. They had also been there with some Stella Green Bottles which was not unusual on an alcohol free beach. What was shocking about it was that they had played target practice with their bottles and sharp, broken glass was all over the beach. I wish I had taken a picture when I saw it but you'll have to use your imagination. Glass bottoms, tops and hundreds of pieces were laying everywhere and people had already walked through it in the dark. I could see the footprints. There were at least 4 broken bottles with the sharp bottom pieces sticking up. The necks were strewn over a 50+ft area and fine glass that could stick you was in several different piles. The beach groomers were just showing up and I wanted to call them over but what could they do? I had to do it before someone got hurt. It was time to give back to the beach that has given me so much over the years. I laid down my detector and scooped up the first pile with my scoop and put it in the empty box. That was just a small dent. It seemed to be everywhere. I was hoping for help but no one stopped out of about 10 people. This had to be cleaned up before the kids and families showed up. I worked like a coin spill. haha I went over it again and again in different directions as the sun was coming up enough to see the little and big shards. Some of it was still glued to the label and other pieces had landed a fair distance away after the impact. When I was nearly done I decided to take a few pictures. The glass started near my detector and went all the way up to my feet near the scoop. It had happened after high tide and was not spread by the small waves. The box was empty when I started and I wanted to keep detecting but I knew it was up to me to make the beach safer. That really is more important sometimes than a few trinkets. The bottoms were the most dangerous as they stuck up with sharp points. Joggers had missed them in the early dawn. It is not a regular occurrence and that can make it worse because it is unexpected. Anyway, I got it done and only found a couple of quarters after the pickup. By the time I left there were 4 more guys detecting. I hope they would have done the same as me if they saw the glass first.
  3. G'day, just new to this forum. Wondering everyones opinions on a 2200D for beach detecting on dry or eroded sand banks? I have a few spots in mind which a pulse induction machine would be handy on spots my mates CTX can't reach. Of course I'd have to waterproof the machine but as a general machine for depth would it handle alright on these areas? Anyone here use the machine for beaches regularly? It'll be my first pulse machine, I'm a long-time user of the Equinox 600 and 800. Cost isn't an issue, I'm just getting bored and limited in parks. I found one at a decent price with a few DD coils. Would I just be wasting my time and money? The spot I have in mind is a long strip of beach where I've found a bit of silver and military relics in the past, and I know of someone who's found a half sov and someone else who's found a cartwheel penny there . I've looked in to a Whites TDI machine but seems like no one here sells them 😞 Cheers!
  4. Hello All!!! Just wanted to wish all the East Coast hunters, and visiting hunters out there, to Be Smart and Safe, pre and post storm!! No amount of potential detecting finds is worth risking your life!! As a Retired Public Safety Employee, i am extremely familiar with the many hazards during storms such as this one! Good Luck Detecting!!🍀🍀 I hope that you all suffer No loss, or damage!! And i look forward to the many great finds that this storm is likely to produce!! Maybe I'll see a few of you out there, if i get the chance!!👍👍
  5. Got out Saturday morning early to try and beat the heat but by 11 am it was pushing 90. Used my GPX with the 14" Coiltek DD coil and ran in Salt mode most of the time, used normal a while too but Salt was much quieter. Had to walk half a mile down the beach to get to where I wanted to hunt and found either my headphones or battery had an issue. The volume was real weak even at full volume, I dealt with it but had the wind been blowing I would have had to walk back. Later found out it was a battery issue, amp must be bad. I think it's time to get Docs gold screamer setup. I'm tired of spending $450 for batteries Minelab claims can't be repaired. This is the second battery in a year that has gone bad. I hunted the wet sand down to the waters edge. Based on all the swim cap buckles, I was in the right place but just couldn't pull up any gold. The Chinese cache coin was kind of cool and all the coins were older. 2 corroded wheat pennies, silver Roosevelt dime, Jefferson nickel, buffalo and what looks like a V-nickel or possible token. Everything I found is pictured with the exception of a long piece of copper wire and two iron blobs that I left in the garbage can. All of the targets were shovel head deep or deeper
  6. I've told myself for months it was time to go out with the 5000 and the Coiltek Platypus mono coil and try for some deep targets. Last night was the night. I think I learned more about my beach then I did about the detecting setup. This is the coil: https://www.seriousdetecting.com/product/coiltek-12-x-8-platypus-mono-300x220mm-for-minelab-sd-gp-gpx-series-detectors/ I don't have any pictures of finds because it was all junk except for 2 pennies. I went out to a low tide wet area where I never find much with the Equinox 800 and I didn't find much with this either. I was going after deep targets and I got a few aluminum can bottoms at 15 inches plus. I had my giant scoop for the task so I didn't have to give up on the targets like I would with an arm scoop. What I learned is that with these conditions there just wasn't a patch of targets in the 'staging area' waiting to be washed up on the shore. Maybe they are farther out. I mostly used the 5000 in Salt/Gold and I was really able to go as high as I wanted with the gain. (For about 20 minutes I used fine gold but it had a hum when I swung.) I stayed around 16 for the 2 hours I hunted. I used my harness that I got with the detector in 2010 and a hipstick but it is a heavy load for me right now. It started to hurt my back between the heavy scoop and the detector. I cancelled my long walk style that I do with the 800. I was trying to go places where I would go with an AQ. I may have learned enough to not want one of those now. I was impressed that the battery worked fine and has not been charged much since I got a Z for the desert. I'll use this setup again on a better conditioned beach that has more targets but it is just not that much better at depth for it to be my regular detector. Mitchel
  7. Hello to all been back to work so my leisure time is shorter working evenings and heading back straight to the coast on my day off is the plan. Anyway ,Sunday i was invited by a fellow detectorist i met in 2001 while looking to test the Explorer XS,this guy (Fred is his name) has been detecting forever almost everyday destroying and killing machine at a crazy rate. The spot we went on Sunday has been productive for him last week with 5 gold items found ,including a ring a seal and 3 14ct ink pen point.He told me to bring a small coil.....the small Nox coil is in London.So i wanted to grab the silver sabre but i just a mounted a polo coil,so i grab the always ready F75 DST with the tiny coil,on my favourite on the Thames and the only machine so far who has paid for itself twice.......the beach has been bulldozer to create sea defence.The sun was bright and the control box is do dirty i could really see so didn't change my River Thames setting and it work well despite been on a salty beach,depth seems same as Thames a lot of deepish targets too.Some eyes only pick up too. Enjoy RR
  8. There are few things a water hunter needs to be happy when doing his work... A good bottom condition and a well prepared machine to do the job. Many times I found good stuff but really struggling with a coil larger than 10". Vlf or pulse, will depend for the most by the environment type, but talking about coils, there's no comparison for a diver with an 8".Not only saltwater is a reduced problem with it, but between rocks, between waves,between any other thing, I still prefer to use a smaller coil. I'm in love with the AQ performance, for what I can see in multiple videos Joe OBN is publishing, but I only think about a smaller coil to be released soon. I hope Alexandre+FT are already working on this thing, cause otherwise I'll be forced to wait until that moment will be reality. 8" coil is a rule for me.
  9. It is summer and to stay till late with friends and childs drinking and roasting meat in the evening is a pleasure without doubts... After few hours however it is also time to go in the beach, in a hurry, early, before people start to fill the water and the search area... So even this morning, after a long stop due to some bad waves, I was trying to do my best and luckily I hitted a promising spot... I'm that kind of hunter that never trust all can be picked up, so even if I pulled last pieces from here when most of competition was already done for this area, I tried again, another time.. Keeping in mind that 99% of stuff was already vanished months ago, I pushed my patience only cause I've seen multiple rocks, hoping for a bit of movement on the bottom...Almost leaving the place, this is what happened today... (sorry for bad camera position over my mask)... All the best guys!
  10. I've been thinking and posting a lot about the Impulse AQ lately as I patiently wait my turn to purchase one. Perhaps my TDI Beachhunter realized this and decided that it needed to put out a little more than it has during my last few trips to the beach with it. Same thing that happened to forum member, Seeker, happened to me yesterday. The news media had mentioned a particular beach being open on July 5th (that starts after midnight right?) but when I got down there there were signs all over saying that the beach was closed the 4th AND the 5th. Fortunately, I had a backup plan and, as has happened so many times before, the backup plan was probably better than my original one. Eventually, I found some wet sand to hunt in where the top of the slope showed indications of recent sand movement. It didn't take long to find pockets of targets but there was a fair amount of trash along with a few coins here and there. I typically hunt in "all metal" (ground balance off) with the Beachhunter because, after years of using the Dual Field, I'm more comfortable in that mode and like the extra depth when needed. I followed the tide out and the number of targets dropped off considerably. During the next couple of hours I searched all over for low-on-the-slope pockets occasionally digging that discouraging 1 foot deep pull tab or piece of can slaw. I only had about another hour left where I was parked when I started to get some promising targets in an area about lower-mid slope. First I hit a couple of coins, then a cheap ring followed by a heavy fresh drop silver ring, a neck chain and not long after that a lightweight fresh drop silver ring. I was "in the zone" when you can almost sense that the gold is near and time was running out on me. Suddenly, a nice loud tone rang out in my headphones and with one scoop the target was out of the hole. With my hand I grabbed the unseen target out of the mound of wet sand and immediately felt the unmistakable shape of a nice sized ring band! In the improving daylight I could see that it was stamped but I've been fooled so many times that I tried not to get too excited even though with the weight and feel I was pretty confident that I had a good one and my last target of the hunt. The chain is stamped .925 but appears to be plated. The ring in the top left of center is stamped "750 Swiss" and weighs 13.3 grams. https://www.furrer-jacot.com/us/wedding/gents-only/white-gold/71-28290-0-0 GL&HH!
  11. I was really looking forward to hitting the beaches hard this weekend with the holiday crowds, great tides and new swell coming in but a couple of days ago the news reported that my local beaches were going to be re-closed just for the 4th of July weekend. I thought I would sneak in a hunt before the closure went into effect so I took the TDI BeachHunter and headed down to one of my favorite locations to detect a couple hours after high tide. There was a decent slope going down to the water and in the light of the nearly full moon I could see several patches of black sand- both pretty good indicators that there were going to be some targets. Even though the tide was still fairly high I was able to work in the wet sand and shallow surf and I started to find an encouraging number of clad coins with a surprising amount of quarters in the mix. This was shaping up to be an excellent hunt. That's when the local police SUV came by and told me that the beach was closed and that I needed to start making my way off the beach. Now, I have hunted this beach dozens of times at all hours of the night and day and the local lifeguards have always let me be when they saw me. The only other time I was asked to leave was also by local law enforcement. I was disappointed since I had just found a productive patch of sand but I said "Yes Sir" and went back to my car to change batteries and put on some different clothes. I thought the officer was actually giving me a little wiggle room when he said, "start making your way off the beach'" instead of "leave the beach" so I went back to hunting and never saw another patrol over the next 6 hours. But I did see many more people including 3 or 4 other hunters. I detected some other nearby spots before heading back at low tide to hunt the site I started at. To my surprise and indignation there was a claimjumper detecting on my claim! I decided to give him plenty of space and started to work the fringes of the "paydirt" where I was still digging targets. However, to my surprise, the other hunter left shortly after I arrived and I think I know why. I couldn't make out what detector he was using but judging from the number of good targets that I continued to find, some even in his scooped out holes, he was either a beginner or had a detector that couldn't handle the modest amount of black sand- maybe both. This area was not that big- perhaps 20' wide by 100' long but I found enough targets to keep me busy for the next couple of hours. I found a couple of rings and a couple of bracelets and I was certain that one of those bracelets was silver. I really like the TDI BeachHunter. It is the most recent addition to my "arsenal" and one that I have the fewest amount of hours on due to overall beach conditions this past year and the pandemic impact. It's been compared to the Fisher Impulse AQ Limited but from what I've seen I believe that the AQ is deeper. The BeachHunter is deep and is really sensitive to both small and gold targets but its pulse delay is 10us compared to 7.5us on the AQ so I'd like to compare "all metal" performance of both detectors when I am able to land an AQ. I drove all the way home wishing I had found gold but happy to have found a big silver bracelet. Unfortunately, when I took a closer look at it I saw what you can see on the the bottom right of the photo- the silver plating wearing through. Arghhhh! Well, at least, I found enough clad to pay for gas this time! GL&HH!
  12. A couple of night ago I did a beach session hoping to take advantage of a bit of surf and wind waves I had seen in the afternoon. In that afternoon session I couldn't find any surf/wet targets but I did find one silver band in dry sand using Park 1. I thought there would be some low tide waves so I went back out from 1-3 AM. I walked about a mile before I found my first penny and then I got to my spot where the wave energy had been concentrated. I picked up a few coins and junk and headed back to where I started. I stopped to look at my settings and noticed that I had tracking off and I turned it on in Beach 1/23/50/6/0F2. I went about 20 feet and I got a 20 target number. That is a number I skip sometimes when I am 'saving' myself from making too many holes. To my surprise there was a ring in my scoop and in my light it looked pretty good! It looked like a ruby and diamonds but it was a 20! What gives with that? Here are the other items I found on the hunt. This was the same beach I couldn't find much just a couple of days before and when I gridded it I had been skipping some of the 20 signals because those are all pennies, right? Now I had just found this ring and it felt good but I didn't have my glasses. How many rings did I skip by not digging all of my 20s? When I got home I checked the ring. Cheap and not gold. Nice looking and I was disappointed but then I realized that the decision to skip many of the 20s (pennies) was a good choice so I could dig a quarter. One quarter equals 25 penny holes. The cheap ring made me feel 'good' if you get what I'm saying. This afternoon I went to a different beach and it is also normally a producer but not now. Near the end I finally got a 'round sound' at 10. This makes me anticipate. It was a ring but a black, stainless steel ring. Not valuable either. Wave intervals are over 15 so I don't expect much up and I'll have to spend more time wading and get lucky for the old stuff as few swimmers are around for new drops. It is always a learning experience to get out. Mitchel
  13. Hello i am going back to work next week so it is time to move back to London,so i did 2 sessions yesterday and today trying a new setting on the nox.and even went into the mudflap😱😱😱 This setting is much quieter and easy on my ears and brain. So here we are the 50cal is probably from an US Bomber made in Saint Louis (Missouri)maybe just maybe RR
  14. I've managed to get out for a few sessions with these extremely low tides but there is not much to show for it. There have not been many waves to get things moving up. When I try the swimming areas it is long and far between targets. It would have been great today to have a deep punching PI to see if I was missing anything with my 800/11. I did dig a couple of targets in wet and damp sand that were 15 inches! I don't like to say it but this represents about 8 hours of detecting with a few of the finds from dry sand on the way in and out of my beaches. This was today's session. Once again the sea groups things together with it being a key day. This was all I could find on some normally very productive beaches. Come again another day. This session from a couple of days ago covered some of the same beaches I covered today. I found one cheap ring. This session was at a beach I've done good at in the past but haven't been able to park near it recently because of the closed beaches. I got this 20-21 signal as soon as I walked down to the wet sand. It was the ring. Unfortunately it is one of the tungsten/carbide rings but it did fool me. As you can see this two mile walk didn't produce much. This last picture is just another session. The picture is documentation. It's sessions like this that bring the averages way down ... haha Better days ahead! Mitchel
  15. Sometimes there is something better than a detector.... Another one (won’t embed)... https://youtu.be/zbXNcUqLAM8
  16. I squeezed in few minutes a 4 hours session of today... Enjoy with me the two rings I found...
  17. Hello all, I was able to get out for a few hours hunt today! I charged up the 800 last night , and needed to test it! After the Er 41 error i had, and posted about, a few days ago at the beach! Steve's Lake Tahoe Hunt yesterday with the AQ inspired me to search my childhood memories for a place where i could fresh water hunt near home! Not an easy task here in South Florida, beleve it or not!! There are tons of freshwater canals! But very few lake's that weren't for some modern housing development drainage basin in the last 20-30 years! And they weren't ever ment to be used for recreation! Let alone anything with a beach that had any history of use! And yes, there are still quite a few alligators 🐊 around to be mindful of!! So "head on a swivel" is a must! Among other hazards! So i drove by some of the spots i could remember from years ago! Two of the three that came to mind were closed off!! It wasn't looking good! The last one was just right, with few people nearby! So i gave it a shot! I didn't come to the realization that i had never detected fresh water before, until i was swinging the detector in it!🤯 So i spent the next two and half hours enjoying the experience! What a nice change it was, not getting pummeled by the surf of the beaches! I've got to find more places now, I'm hooked! I would have liked to end my adventure with a nice piece of gold or silver jewelry! But that wasn't the case this time out!! I found many bottle caps of various stages of decomposition! And a respectable amount of clad and zincons! But wait!! The story ain't over yet!! Generally, I'm not in the habit of looking at my finds very good when I'm hunting, i just seperate the trash from the treasure, and clean and sort later! Especially when i am alone, and there are eyes on me!👁👁 I had vaguely noticed that one of my "treasures" was odd sized! Bigger than a quarter, and smaller than the 69' Kennedy that i found at the beginning of the year! It was "coin" sized and solidly encrusted, so in with the coins it went! Along with a few other encrusted smaller coins! I can generally tell, with salt water encrusted coins, what they are! But i was in new territory with these few! My time was up, so i headed home! I did my usual dumping and sorting of the pouch contents, on my tailgate for a gross decon! Then off for a soak, cleaning, and examination! The "odd" coin was giving me a hard time, so i had to soak longer than the rest! I just figured it was some odd alloy, or some kind of blank that was probably trash! But i was still careful! The persistance paid off, and although it was badly corroded, and very thin! Enough details surfaced to identify it! It was a "bucket lister" for me, even though it's pretty much worthless monetarily!!👍👍 And now the unveiling: 1935 Walking Liberty Half Dollar!! 😵 In Sad condition!! 😩
  18. Found minutes ago... I'm happy he's involved in the beta phase🔝
  19. Hey folks, I noticed today, while doing a 7 hour river hunt (Fresh Water), in Northern California (Wine Country), that almost all my targets would give an iron grunt as the coil passed off the target. I thought perhaps there was small iron nearby the target, so I replaced the target (100 yen coin) in a clean spot and swept back and forth, receiving a small grunt here and there. I had been hunting in Beach 1 All Metal Mode for the day. I did this so that I could check to see if I had a bear cap, or pull tab by swinging over then pulling off the target to reveal the Iron (Something I read in "The Equinox Serious, by Andy Sabisch) I did notice that discriminating -9 - 0 It obviously did away with the grunts, but my question is, what would cause that? My sensitivity ranged for 10-20. The Iron Bias was set to 0, and also 4 (with similar results) I noise canceled frequently, and did a ground balance every now and then as well. My recovery delay was 4, or 5. In case any of these settings would cause it. I'm very much a novice, with less then a year experience, and have never hunted extensively in water. I know alot of you guys know your stuff, so I figured I'd see what kind of answers I could get here. Hopefully I gave all the pertinent information. I appreciate your answers, and happy hunting! ~ Luke
  20. I know we are coming out of our lock downs and this is may not be quite as valuable as it was a month or so ago but ... what a find! I've seen some of the videos where each sheet was carefully used to pay for services and goods. I didn't stage this but I also didn't put it in my finds bag. haha
  21. Im looking to get my first metal detector and will be using mostly at the beaches here in South Florida. I'll occasionally use use it more inland so would like it to be versatile. Also, wouldnt mind if it waterproof in case it gets wet at the beach. My budget is up to $1000. Can anyone recommend something that will work for me?
  22. Our beaches in southern California have been shut down for a number of weeks. I did manage to sneak in a couple of nighttime hunts but they were nothing to write home about as they say. Even without the metal detecting pressure the conditions just weren't right. Some of that changed this week and the beaches were also opened on Wednesday. I couldn't go that day but I did go on Thursday in the daylight! haha I had some 'moderate' success at one of my favorite beaches. There was a bit of a slope to it but no real cut. The tide was not very low but I could detect the top of the hill, avoiding a few people. I managed one junk ring, a cheap bracelet, a lock and key and some salvage scraps missed when a sailboat was yanked off the beach a few months back. There was also the Australian coin! It was a good enough hunt to encourage me to go back today. And the wind waves had changed the shore for the better. It was a bit steeper. I did the best I could with the incoming tide and the extra number of people trying to social distance. It took away some of my grid areas so I had to modify my hunt. Within the first 15 minutes I got a nice silver ring. It wasn't high and it wasn't low on the hill. I made a note of it of course but kept to my pattern for this beach which produces with a grid. You can find rings mixed in with coins. You keep a tight pattern and you will get directly over your target if it is there. Funny thing was that was not how I got this ring. I heard it 'off coil' in my fringe at the bottom of my turn and had to seek it out to then see the 28 which made me think it was a quarter but it is much better. It is a little small for me but it is 10g/.925. Most of the coins were found up and out of the now rising tide but I didn't have much time so I wanted to go back to that heavy ring line and see if there was more. This brought me down to where the people walking area was against the water. I left the perpendicular grid for a parallel sweep. It wasn't long before I had a couple more rings! Both of them are stainless steel and of no value but I found them the same way. They caught my attention 'off coil' and then I dug down the 5-7 inches to get them. Once I got over them they had numbers like 10 or 16 with my settings at 23/6/50/no iron bias. I reversed myself on the beach to keep my pattern and skipped a few pennies (20) to not waste time as my zone was about to be under water and I could lose things in the surf. Near the end of the session I got my last ring. It is a 10k/2g but I'll take it. There was one additional silver chain section and some junk jewelry pieces. I hope there is more when I go back! You never know with a beach but I had to go. It was fun. Mitchel
  23. I recently returned from a MD’ing trip to Cancun and the 3 of us used Minelab Equinox detectors. Finds included 100’s of coins, probably 10+ pairs of sun glasses, with 1 of them being Ray-Bans, 2 cell phones, numerous ear rings with 1 of them being 14K gold and another was a diamond stud. Chains, bracelets and metals, some broken and others hole. Over 30+ rings with many sterling, a few of the modern Tungsten and Stainless wedding bands and even gold rings (both white and yellow gold). 2 rings really popped out that were both 14K gold. One was the blue sapphire with diamonds and the other a wedding ring with a nice 1+ karats of diamonds. Even the 1st time lady digger scored a nice 14K white gold wedding band with a couple cool sterling rings. I managed 21 of the 30 rings so I won't complain but the amount of gold was certainly off my standards. Pic of rings on my hand were the ones I found minus a sterling that broke when being tumbled. We all enjoyed the warm weather, water and experience. The Equinox detectors performed as hoped. Used Beach Mode #1, GB on, open screen by pushing the Horseshoe, SENS around 17 to 19 and Threshold so I can hear it. All other settings were FP. What amazes me is the gold to modern metal ratio. The resorts I hunt used to produce more gold than modern metals and now it has flipped. in years past, I'd come back with 15 or 20 gold rings on a weeks hunt and never a modern Stainless or Tungsten. Now it seems I'll get more of them than I actually do the gold ones? Well the wife still likes going down there so I might as well get used to it and realize 5, 6 and 7 Gold ring days are long gone at those places. Guess I'll jump into a lake and follow BeechNut around as his gold ring counts are still good.
  24. It was a rather strange day today ......broad spectrum of finds and dates of coins. BUT .........I got a tiny 9ct gold stud earring in black sand mix. A nice old penny, the other penny is just too far gone to see a date. Another coin for the scrap. Hubby ran off with the stainless steel hose clip thingys......guess some junk is useful eh?
  25. As many of you know, I live at the beach, Santa Monica to be exact. I detect the beach often. I oftentimes hear faint signals and dig deep holes for coins, trash and jewelry. I can dig much deeper for targets on a beach than I do in the desert. I can read a beach, slow down and grid it and find stuff others miss with an 800, 3030 or even my 5000. I've trained with several detectorists over the years in order to improve my efficiency in the nugget game but I'd have to say I don't have the confidence after all of these years that I'm doing it right. The recent JP thread once again emphasizes coil control and settings as a way to hear the little nuggets and deep ones. It is still a technique I'm unable to master. Are the signals just that much more subtle in the nugget game? I've found hundreds of nuggets over the last 10 years and a couple of big ones but I'm far from efficient. Let me put it this way, if you were to take me and a group of other detectorists out to a nugget patch and make teams (I would be picked near last) or let everyone take a shot at a location and then you would follow, I would be picked nearly first (expecting I would miss more than others)! Each time I'm in the desert I enjoy it even when I don't get nuggets but I have to do a better job of putting myself where the gold and the coil meet. No doubt a better understanding of geology would help but I can't make myself look at topography or geology maps. Is that it? Mitchel
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