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Split from this thread Have you read some of Mark Gillespie's posts about using the TDI/SL in a school yard loaded with coal waste? Here's one.

Hello all, I was able to get out for a few hours hunt today! I charged up the 800 last night , and needed to test it! After the Er 41 error i had, and posted about, a few days ago at the beach! Steve's Lake Tahoe Hunt yesterday with the AQ inspired me to search my childhood memories for a place where i could fresh water hunt near home! Not an easy task here in South Florida, beleve it or not!! There are tons of freshwater canals! But very few lake's that weren't for some modern housing development drainage basin in the last 20-30 years! And they weren't ever ment to be used for recreation! Let alone anything with a beach that had any history of use! And yes, there are still quite a few alligators 🐊 around to be mindful of!! So "head on a swivel" is a must! Among other hazards! So i drove by some of the spots i could remember from years ago! Two of the three that came to mind were closed off!! It wasn't looking good! The last one was just right, with few people nearby! So i gave it a shot! I didn't come to the realization that i had never detected fresh water before, until i was swinging the detector in it!🤯 So i spent the next two and half hours enjoying the experience! What a nice change it was, not getting pummeled by the surf of the beaches! I've got to find more places now, I'm hooked! I would have liked to end my adventure with a nice piece of gold or silver jewelry! But that wasn't the case this time out!! I found many bottle caps of various stages of decomposition! And a respectable amount of clad and zincons! But wait!! The story ain't over yet!! Generally, I'm not in the habit of looking at my finds very good when I'm hunting, i just seperate the trash from the treasure, and clean and sort later! Especially when i am alone, and there are eyes on me!👁👁 I had vaguely noticed that one of my "treasures" was odd sized! Bigger than a quarter, and smaller than the 69' Kennedy that i found at the beginning of the year! It was "coin" sized and solidly encrusted, so in with the coins it went! Along with a few other encrusted smaller coins! I can generally tell, with salt water encrusted coins, what they are! But i was in new territory with these few! My time was up, so i headed home! I did my usual dumping and sorting of the pouch contents, on my tailgate for a gross decon! Then off for a soak, cleaning, and examination! The "odd" coin was giving me a hard time, so i had to soak longer than the rest! I just figured it was some odd alloy, or some kind of blank that was probably trash! But i was still careful! The persistance paid off, and although it was badly corroded, and very thin! Enough details surfaced to identify it! It was a "bucket lister" for me, even though it's pretty much worthless monetarily!!👍👍 And now the unveiling: 1935 Walking Liberty Half Dollar!! 😵 In Sad condition!! 😩

When the coronavirus reached Queensland, Magnetic Island decided to go cashless. Cards only! This has led to a sharp drop in the amount of coins recovered, a severe enough situation to take a serious hit on my weekly beer money.. I’m not the only one complaining, other beach hunters on the island are in similar strife.. The virus outbreak has been a double whammy for us; not only are there no more coins to be found, there’s also no more tourists who could otherwise be counted on to lose their jewellery in the sea.. Are we the only ones suffering from this dreadful dilemma? Or are the rest of you in as much grief as we are? Having said this, there has been a bit of a silver lining.. I’ve been forced to get creative and am now hitting the island’s historical sites.. So far I’ve found a few more old pennies and shillings at the old school (a wooden structure with a palm thatched roof first established in the late 1800s).. I’ve also been back in the hills with Foxy Noxy and its new 6’’ coil to go over the old gold diggings.. No luck yet but I’m ever hopeful, getting a better feel for the island’s geology and how it all fits in with where the gold diggings are situated.. I’m casting my net a lot wider to include obvious creek catchments and the surrounding hills..

I Finally got back to the park where i found the Kennedy Half in February! Went with the AT Pro again, but i had the 5x8 stock coil on this time! I haven't used it nearly enough! The 8.5x11 is waiting for a new coil cover, so it was a no go! It was still very steamy out, but i managed to find enough good targets to keep me on task! Now when i say "good" targets, they are not of the caliber that most of you post! But that's the hand I'm delt, living where i do! The beaches have been very lean as of late, and i needed to get my legs, ears, and brain, back to hunt mode! I thought i found a nice chunky silver religious pendant within the first five minutes!🥳 But after cleaning a little, it was just plated pot metal!😞 Oh well, at least that got my heart pumping! I detected a little over two hours, and the legs and sunlight started to faulter! It was a decent hunt! And i have alot more ground to cover there! Even if only to retune my body and senses, until the beaches liven up a little! Next hunt there will be with the Knox!👍👍

Have you ever had a dig and you look down and you say 'Oh MY?' I got this hit as I was leaving the beach not too far from where I 'found' the toilet paper. It turns out that the toilet paper is worth more than this coin! haha Why? When I got the number on the 800 it was 18. I was just about to finish my 3 hour session with a penny I thought. When I saw the edge of a large silver coin in the sand I said this is odd. It doesn't match. When I got it in the scoop it was not heavy enough to be real. I could see a couple of spots on the edge without my glasses and knew it had to be fake. When I got home I saw the sandwich line. You can see other fake things about it too but it is probably not counterfeit because it doesn't say United States of America on it. There were a lot of targets and any one of the washers could have been a ring. I dug a lot of holes.

Back out to the football field this morning for 1 1/2 hours. It had rained yesterday, so the ground was great for depth today. There was a spot that had about 5 pennies that were down at about 9 inches. Each of them was caked with sandy dirt, so I didn't want to rub them to pieces. I thought they might be wheats, but was not sure (I think only one is a wheat). In the same 9 ft. square area I got a 36-37 ID on the Equinox using 50 tones. It also was as deep as the pennies. This find is my first ever silver half dollar! It is not really pretty, but it is silver! It cleaned up fairly well using baking soda and aluminum followed by aluminum polish that I had around for headlight restoration.

Out again today in my current favorite (century old) park. Three Jefferson nickels in the first hour -- very first find was a consistent 12 (no 13) TID on the Minelab Equinox -- something I've been skipping over given the thousands of pulltabs in this park. I figured it was going to be a nickel kind of day but with 30 minutes left of the 3 hour hunt I had only added a couple corroded Zincolns. Then in a picnic area I got a nice shallow 13 TID, which could still be a pulltab but it was my 4th nickel. Shortly after I was about 1 foot from a utility pole and got a low-mid 20's signal which sounded very good in one direction but flutey at 90 degree angle of attack. I was also hearing some iron grunt, but when I shortened the swing amplitude over the target down to just a couple inches there was no iron sound. Strength indicator (what is popularly called "depth indicator") showed 4 bars = moderate. So far, so good, but as most of you know when near a utility pole, lots of decent sounding targets can show up -- copper and aluminum wire, copper lugs, steel bolts. And in a picnic area (which I was), the dreaded aluminum screw cap, especially when flattened, can sound good with TID low-mid 20's. It was even possible I was hearing an Indian Head penny or early Wheat penny. Digging down in the 4-5 inch range I popped out a disc which looked about the size of a nickel, but it was green (copper signature) and the TID was too high for a nickel. My next thought was 'token' but it was smaller than the tokens I'd been finding in this park, although could still be a different variety. A spray of water showed part of a shield. Hmmm. Shield nickel (no), 2 Cent Piece (unlikely) so I'm still thinking it's a token. But using a magnifier I clearly saw '1864'! What is a 150+ year old coin which hardly circulated even 125 years ago due to its unpopularity doing in this 100 year old park? Just in the last 9 months I can find three posts of USA 2 Cent Piece finds: post 1, post 2, post 3. Those are in better shape than mine, but it's the first ever 2 Cent Piece I've found so I'm going to count it. Mine is also an 1864, which I guess isn't too surprising given that 44% of all 2 Cent pieces ever minted in the USA had the 1864 date. (Throw in the next year, 1865, and almost 3/4 are accounted for.) Nice article in Wikipedia points out that they were first minted late in the Civil War in an attempt to alleviate the shortage of coins (caused by hording) but after the war ended and coins were in sufficient supply their popularity dropped considerably. 1873 was the last year of mintage and those 1100 were proofs for collectors. In 1872 only 65,000 were minted for circulation. Many (but unknown number) were returned to the mint and melted. We've discussed the small motto vs. large motto version of the 1864. Currently mine is so badly encrusted that it's difficult to tell. I can only see the 'W' in 'WE' and the 'R' in 'TRUST'. I'll get a friend with high quality camera to take better photos and maybe we can figure this out. (I'm still on hold cleaning with more than soft brush in water and olive oil until I can do more research on cleaning coins without damaging.) Odds are certainly in favor of it being the more common large motto, but I can still hold out hope, can't I? (fingers crossed)

Here is a link to a site dedicated to pull tabs. https://pulltabarchaeology.com/archaeology/

Well, I have about fifteen hours in with the Equinox 800. This is the entirety of my metal detecting experience. All my detecting so far has been in the yard, alley, and parking strip of an 1890 Queen Anne style house in an older neighborhood near the downtown core of Helena, MT. I’m having a blast learning to detect, while trying to unravel the idiosyncrasies of the Nox. I’ve found some cool stuff, the pinnacle of which, so far, is a 1917 D Merc dime, in reasonable condition. (Pics are included) Needless to say I am hopelessly hooked. But… I have questions. Lord do I have questions. 🤣 So I’ve been perusing the forums to try to learn as much as I can from previous questions here, and I also picked up Andy Sabisch’s book, which has helped clarify several points. Following much of the advice given here and elsewhere, I’ve been sticking to the stock settings in PARK 1, and FIELD 1, though I have also played with one of the programs for coin shooting in Andy’s book. (That’s the settings I found the Merc with) So my first two questions: 1. What is the detector telling me when the target signal is erratic? ie. The signal bounces from 21 to 29 to 18 to 39 etc. with the depth indicator also jumping. So far when I’ve dug targets exhibiting this behavior, they’ve usually turned out to be some heavily rusted piece of metal - nail, chunk of iron, etc. What am I missing? 2. What is the detector telling me when I get a strong, high VDI number when swinging one direction, but nothing coming back the other direction, or when swinging 90 degrees to the original swing, the target disappears, but reappears when swinging the original direction. Thanks for any insight you can provide. I know the Nox is pretty sophisticated, and I am inexperienced. I understand I need way more time on it to begin to not only figure out the machine, but also the mechanics of detecting in general! Here’s some of the stuff I’ve found so far:

As mentioned previously, after rereading Dick Stout's Coin Hunting... In Depth book over the holidays I took his advice and stepped away from my standard sites to find new ones. It seems to be working (thanks, Dick). Statistics on that later in this post. Last week I went to one of those 'new sites', a century old park, and in the first 2 hours I found 83 cents in modern coins searching along a road and around a crushed stone parking lot that had previously produced only one old coin -- a beat up Wartime nickel ('Warnick'). I decided to move to a picnic area for the last hour, and as you can see in the picture, I was rewarded. (Sorry for the overexposure on the Warnick.) One of the Buffies showed up first, about 5-6 inches. Next was the Merc at 4-5 inches. The other two nickels followed (neither more than about 4 inches deep) and the big surprise was the Indian Head, also only about 4 inches deep. My previous Personal Record ('PR') was only two old coins in one day's hunting. Note that I don't count Wheat pennies in this category. My single day PR there is 27. Needless to say I was quite pleased. Oh, the 22 cartridge was found next to the above mentioned parking lot on a previous hunt. Given that it's in a muni park (and we don't have gang problems..., etc.) I assume this was dropped long ago. It's possible it was dropped after the park opened by a hunter who was getting his gear together after getting out of the car, before exiting the park on foot into the nearby woods. The lead bullet appears to have 3 rings, one smooth and two serrated (if that's the correct word). Can anyone put an age on this? It was oriented vertically about 6 inches deep and sounded as sweet as any silver dime I've ever found, with the TID centered around 27. Except for the 'P' on the back of the Warnick, there is no mintmark on any of the other coins. The IH is 1903 and the Buffie dates are only partially visible. I think one is 1916 and the other 1924. None of these is scarce, but they still get counted in my 'other old coin' category. A little about the park. As I mentioned it was established over a century ago. I knew of its existence but figured so did every coin hunter within 100 miles. Surely there was nothing left for me.... But another thing I've learned is that there is no such thing as "hunted out". I've put 52 1/2 hours into hunting this park so far (all in 2020) and there's still more uncovered area awaiting. Here are some numbers to mull over: my 'other old coin' finds per hour is 0.27 for this site compared to 0.08 for all other hunted sites since beginning of 2017. 8 of the 14 finds are nickels. Meanwhile Wheat pennies recovered per hour is 0.21, compared to 0.26/hr for all other sites starting in 2017. And here is a sampling of my trash finds: These are from 12 1/2 hours of hunting this park. All but a couple of the ring-and-beavertail pulltabs had Equinox TID's in the modern USA coin regions: 12-14 (nickels) and 19 and above. If the nickel and pseudo-nickel target ID touches 15 I don't dig. My custom high tone is 20 and up to make sure I notice Indian Head pennies. (Note from the photo: I count Zincolns as trash and that's what the pictured discs are.) The 14-18 region is typically thought of as pulltabs, but those in the photo (exception of a couple r&b's) all sounded and TID'ed like nickels. The aluminum screwcaps TID 21-23. Crown caps can be in both nickel zone and Zincoln zone (elsewhere, too), depending upon composition. I did dig more trash than this, mostly can slaw but also some aluminum foil and the usual few bent nails, square nails, copper wire, etc. This park is absolutely loaded with the old pulltabs, and the broken off beavertails are the worst. It got to where I was requiring the TID to at least flash a 13 for me to dig 'nickels', and still you see what I pull out. Unfortunately I later dug a pure 12 and it was a nickel. 😪 I wonder how many of those I left in the ground. If you're still here I hope you don't mind one more statistic: for common coins of denomination 25 cents and less (so not counting Wheaties or other old coins, but including Zincolns), the fraction of nickels among common coins since beginning of 2017 (but not counting this site) is 15%. At this site (again, not counting the eight old nickels) is 26%. In summary, I'm finding a lot of old coins compared to my other sites, but not more Wheaties. I'm finding a lot more nickels (relative to other coins) than my other sites. I'm finding tons of pulltabs in the nickel zone. How does all this tie together? Simple: the site has been hunted by detectorists cherry picking the high conductors and ignoring the nickels because they don't want to dig pulltabs. Of course they missed some Indian Heads (probably didn't want to be bothered with Zincolns either) and a few silver dimes. Hopefully I'll find a higher denomination silver coin, but even if I don't I'm happy with the oldies that have been showing up.

Did a quick stint at the park this morning and found a Battle of Verdun coin/medallion dated 1916. As you can see from the pics I nicked it with the digging tool. 🤮 I'd like some advice on how to avoid this in the future. I know part of it is just experience, but there must be some techniques or mechanics that will help to mitigate this. I've included an image of a better conditioned coin too. Found a bunch of clad coins along with this. The Vanquish is a sweet little detector. Won't replace my Nox 800, but it is really fun to use! I think I will get the bigger coil for it...

I went to a local rec center today for 1 1/2 hours. The soccer fields were closed due to chemical sprays, so I decide to hunt around the other areas I haven't hit before. On the big field I generally find very little, so I assume it really gets pounded. I still had the 11" coil on the Equinox from beach detecting, so it felt like an Exacto knife rather than the sword-like 15". Right off the bat I started hitting quarters. It seemed like I couldn't take 10 steps without hitting another. My initial goal was to search for signals in the 5-13 range. I couldn't do that due to the overwhelming amount of change in the ground. Not complaining, just amazed at how much was in the ground there. Although 42 quarters came out of the ground, I left a good amount behind so I can take my friend who is just getting into detecting. He will have a blast if his knees can handle it. I bet I covered about 10% of the ground so far. I left close to 20 dimes in the ground just because my legs were feeling it, I was being selective, and Florida's state bird was starting to suck my blood. I was using Park 1, ground balanced, 13 sensitivity (lots of interference initially), all metal, and 7 recovery.

After a bit of a drought of finding cool coins with the Equinox, I found another V nickel detecting in the neighbors parking strip in between thunderstorms. It was pretty worn and pitted, and not of any numismatic value, so I cleaned it up a bit.

I tend not to get too excited, especially before I go out for a hunt. This morning I was reviewing some of my recent sites with https://www.historicaerials.com when I stumbled upon some magic words on an older USGS topo -- "Drive-in Theater". If that doesn't get your detecting mouth salivating then you're not a coin hunter. Stay tuned. Update: Officer Murphy (the one the law was named after) pulled me over as I was getting ready to head down the driveway. The garage door cable came off the pully and in the process of fixing that I've messed up even more.... Detecting adventure is going to have to wait. Hopefully I get time tomorrow because they're predicting iffy weather for the next three days after that. Update 2: Garage door fixed, but too late to get in much detecting as I had evening plans. But I did have time to scout out the spot. Good news is that it's public property and thus accessible. However, I think I'm going to need to be discrete as some might object to me hunting this spot, even though I can freely walk into and out of it (not having to climb fences). I don't know exactly when the Drive-In closed. I think it opened in 1955 and was closed before turn-of-21st Century, so ballpark 40 years in operation. Unfortunately where the cars parked has been reworked (with fill) but the projector building location and hopefully concession stand and kiddie playground wasn't, at least it looks overgrown unlike the rest of the area. Now, have others detected there? Maybe back in the 90's but I suspect that in the last 20 years it's either been forgotten about or completely unknown to modern detectorists. Even if it's been hunted, my experience is they usually leave a few crumbs for me! I haven't decided when I'll go there, as I think it's going to be best for me to pick my spots when I won't be noticed, or at least if noticed, not hassled -- early mornings and late evenings during the long daylight months (I guess that includes now). I will report what I find, especially if that includes pre-1965 coins. There appears to have been about 10-15 year window when silver was in circulation there. I'm optimistic.

Hello everyone; I read the subject and I'm confused 🙂 https://www.detectorprospector.com/magazine/steves-guides/steve-guide-gold-nugget-detectors/ Since my financial situation worsened, I sold my gpx 5000 brand device and instead bought the xp deus x35 28 rc, vs5 device. The land I work on is high mineral, arhaic places. Findings I am looking for 0.50g - 2.5g electrum coin. Is this detector enough for me? What settings would you recommend to me? Thanks to everyone who contributed to the forum.

Thought I’d give a quick update and some photos of the (good) stuff I’ve found so far. I have a little over 40 hours of metal detecting on the Equinox 800. This is the entirety of my metal detecting experience! Thanks to everyone on the forum who has helped guide me. I haven’t included the junk in these photos, but trust me, there is a fair amount! There seems to be less junk dug the more hours I put in though. So far I have found: Currency Two clad quarters Five silver dimes (A Barber, three Mercs, and a Roosevelt) Seven clad dimes Seven Nickels (A V!, two Buffalos, and four Jeffersons) Fifteen Wheat Pennies (Ranging from 1919 to 1957) An old Chinese Coin Jewelry Two enameled pieces (Either broaches or buttons) A Catholic medallion depicting Our Lady of Mount Carmel, and The Sacred Heart of Jesus Tokens A token from an old pool hall Relics A creepy cool stamped metal doll head! Just found this morning at a local park not three blocks from the house! Found the face first, and the back of the head a little deeper. Most of this was found in parking strips in a Helena, MT neighborhood, Except for the doll head… Still looking for that $5 gold piece!

Got out today for about 2 1/2 hours to a local rec. center/pool that has been closed down due to covid-19. I have not detected there before, despite being close to home. At first I hit the side of the gravel parking lot because the gates had all been padlocked to any fields. I found quarters, the large coin/token and the .925 pendant from Thailand. The signal for the coin/token was a STRONG 35. https://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins.pl?coin=14173 I thought it was another buried can, but the sound went away as I lifted the coil, unlike all the cans I was digging. It was on the edge of the parking lot close to a flower patch of the neighbor next door. I moved to a new spot and in the front of the building was the .925 ring on the first dig up front. After that I saw that the field was open and went onto the kickball/small baseball field. There were a lot of quarters and dimes. This spot is close to virgin because the quarters would be gone otherwise. There is more jewelry waiting! The 15" coil impressed me again.🙂

Short stint with the Equinox this morning yielded another first for me. She's a little rough, but I like her anyway! 😍

Well, perseverance, study, asking questions, and dogged desire, are slowly paying off! I was going to go to an old park this morning, but the weather was crap, so I didn’t make it. Things settled down in the early afternoon, so I went and hit the parking strip here and the next door neighbor’s house. I wanted to apply some of the things I’ve learned from some questions I asked here on the forums, and from reading Andy and Clive’s books. It was a good afternoon! I found my second Merc - a 1943D, my first nickel - a 1963 Jefferson, AND my first Buffalo nickel - 1928. I’m feeling much more confident, and starting to correlate what I’m seeing and hearing from the Equinox to what’s coming out of the ground. Looking forward to getting out to that park!

Mercury dimes are my favorite coin to find, probably because I have found more of them than any other silver coins and they are a beautiful coin. I always look for these features. Can't find the naked lady under the bridge?..............................................

Got out about two weeks ago before the shutdown, local friend and I met to test our MDT units on bricks. Then, detect since the weather was very nice. We didn’t hunt the area recently giving up three seated 1/2 dollars, instead we focused on another nearby area giving up a seated 1/2 dime, bust quarter and a 1846 $5 dollar gold coin on previous hunts. We know from experience, eventually this particular area will give an old coin or two if we continue hitting it. Luck was on my side on this particular hunt, dug an 1848 1/2 dime with the MDT. Funny thing with my recent silver coin finds, these four recent pieces of silver are all seated 1/2 half’s. Two seated half dollars, two seated 1/2 dimes. The MDT bagged the recent 1848 1/2 dime, EQUINOX and Blisstool V6 scored the remaining three pieces. The bricks we tested are from an 1853 hotel, nothing remains from the hotel, it burned down in 1908 and is from the same property across the river now an orchard. Unfortunately, the bricks are only 2-3 bar with 3 at the highest end. MDT and most other top end models can see through one brick with ease. Two bricks are tougher, but barely detectable when testing. These bricks are not mineralized enough, to conduct detector comparisons. Have a new job position, been tough visiting the forums due to homework and new job positions work schedule. Going forward will be even tougher, thought I’d post this today’s may not be too many free moments ahead. Also, I’ll add that the property owner of this particular area allows us to detect here. Most of our finds from this particular area are in our local county’s museum, the bulk of remaining finds including an 1846 $5 gold coin are with the property owner. These recent seated finds, will probably go to the owner or be placed into our county’s museum displayed along side with the other finds. Great hobby we have, Really enjoy the history part especially the research portion. If one digs into the reading material portion, sky’s the limit you’ll always have places to hunt and always keep property owners updated. Thanks for Looking, Paul

Today I decided to break our states stay at home rule today. Now they mandated us wearing masks ever time we go outside, I call BS. I'm in the middle of a 20 acre field with no one near me for 1/4 of a mile. I just got my new 11'' coil (AF-28) for the Multi Kruzer, which is the factory coil on the anfibio. I couldn't wait to give it a run. I started out with a couple of air tests to see if my numbers were comparable to the 11x7 and the 9 inch. The 11's numbers are a little different on gold in the 50's VS 30's on the other coils. As for other coins, silver and such, they are just a few ticks higher on the scale. I've hunted this spot a lot and thought it was pretty much devoid of finds. So today I decided to take some advise that Againstmywill posted recently, and I cut my gain way back and decided to hunt the top couple of inches of ground. Boy did it pay off, Don't get me wrong I dug a lot of trash, but this was to work out my numbers and sounds with this coil. I think this might be the best coil for the Multi Kruzer. The only downside is EMI . I thought I had a pretty good day on the coins and got a bonus silver ring, I can't complain about that. I want to give a shout out to Tom Slick another forum member who recommended the 11'' coil. You were spot on Total Count 8 Quarters - 7 Dimes - 1 Nickle - 19 Penny's - old iron ring, glass fuse, at least 100 pull tabs, brass buckle, And a nice little silver ring. Sometimes it's worth breaking the law!! ( no one was hurt in making this post and Dogodog is a purely fictional character. ) Stay safe my friends!!!

Time to share some finds i have been making with my Nox 800. From the Sierras to the streets of Reno i have been swinging as much as possible over the last couple weeks. I'm running in Park 1, sens. 19-23, manuel ground balance, 5 tone, and 5 recovery, but i also play with the settings some to learn the machine. Here are some coins and relics i just found over recent weeks. I'm new to coin hunting, only been hunting since the end of January, but i am falling for this hobby too much fun!😃

Went to a new park today to dirt fish while my son went fish fishing. He was happy catching 3 fish in 3 hours, and I was happy finding a park that has not been hit too hard. I can't remember the last time I found over $12 in change in 3 hours of detecting, except for after when a carnival packed up and left. There were 36 quarters, 23 dimes, 11 nickels, and about 25 pennies. The 15" coil on the Equinox is no slouch at finding coins. Next time I will have to slow down and dig lots of trash to start pulling the gold rings out. If there are that many coins, it stands to reason there will be rings. Park 1, 7 recovery speed, 0 iron bias, 18 sensitivity, ground balanced, and all metal.