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  1. Now, wouldn't it be nice to find something like this! https://www.thevintagenews.com/2021/02/17/medieval-3/
  2. I'm making an argument that in USA coin detecting, the Jefferson nickel is unusual compared to its peers. Let's look at a bit of history. When coin designs change, it typically takes somewhere in the roughly 25-30 year timeframe for the previous design to disappear (not literally, but be down to say a few out of every 100 coins of a particular denomination). Examples are the Buffalo-->Jefferson nickels (1938 design change), Wheat-->Memorial cents (1958-59 breakover). But there are anomalies and when silver was removed from coinage (1964-65) it took less than 10 years for those coins to disappear. The reason was because the bullion value exceded the face value of 90% silver coins. Coin collecting in general (i.e. simple) terms depends upon recognizing dates and mintmarks and knowing which are the scarce/rare/valuable ones. Consider the 1938-D Walking Liberty Half Dollar. There were 39 different date+mintmark WL Halves minted from 1934 through 1947 but only one carried extra value. You had to know that date and mintmark and then look carefully at both sides of each WL Half to see if you found one. And because of their low mintage, on average you had to seach through a lot of them to hit your goal. That was too much trouble for most people. When silver coins became valuable, all a person had to do was look at a dime, quarter, or half dollar coin's edge because the new (worth less than face) clad showed an orange or dark gray tone due to its copper core. (A keen eye could also recognize a difference the color of 90% silver vs. 25% nickel faces of a coin.) That's why they disappeared from circulation so quickly, and with them went most of the fun from (cost free) coin collecting, other than possibly pennies and nickels. Along with the low bullion value of clad coins they were also minted by the train car load. Except for certain rare error coins (e.g. double dies) you weren't going to find any value by searching dates and mintmarks of coins minted after 1964. Wheat penny attrition more/less followed the historical/traditional 30 year disappearance pattern, so by around 1990 there wasn't much to find by searching pennies, either. But the Jefferson nickel was a different story, because the design didn't change until 2004 (to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the Louisiana Purchase and Lewis-and-Clark Expedition). That's a run of 66 years without a design change. An exception was the 1942-45 "War Nickels", each containing about 78% as much silver as a silver dime. Their dark gray color gave them away and although they lasted longer than their 90% silver brethren they still were long gone by the the mid-80's. Fortunately metal detecting old sites doesn't suffer from the same problems just described for coin collecting as the 'loss' of coins from circulation is our gain! However, if you're searching locations such as parks and schools which didn't exist (as public properties) before the 1970's then you are stuck with clad dimes, quarters, and halves. However, Jefferson nickels that were dropped/lost in recent decades can still be among the key and semi-key date+mm specimens. Here are the top 9 scarcest Jefferson nickels (only date+mm's with mintages fewer than 10 million) and their mintages: Another advantage of detecting Jefferson nickels is that some detectorists don't want to be bothered digging nickels because (among other things) their digital Target ID's fall in the same range as a lot of common aluminum trash. For older areas this can mean finding Buffalo and Liberty nickels where silver coins have already been picked clean.
  3. I found a total $275 which is nothing compared to the serious clad hunters out there or those who hunt the countries that have the higher denomination coins.
  4. Does anybody know if those Detech or NEL coils made for a Tesoro Lobo ST will actually get better depth than the Tesoro coils before I go and buy one and can't return it? Any recommendations on the best coil of these 2 brands for deep silver hunting? I have all of the Tesoro coils made for my LST, but I could never get more than 8 inches on a silver quarter even after having the detector tuned to the 9 x 8 coil in Disc mode at the factory. My buddys with Minelabs can get several more inches or so they claim. The LST was my fave all time detector and the only one I ever paid for with finds,mostly gold jewelry.Heck,it will 'see ' a mens gold ring at a foot deep air test in All Metal,so I don't understand why I can only get silver coins at 8 inch max in Disc and a touch more in All Metal? Thanks, -Tom
  5. I found this Mexican 1925 10 centavos a little over a year ago. Dug it at an old SP stop that was very good to me. It sounded like an IHP. Solid 19 on the 800. As small as it is I am surprised that more have not shown up. Show some small silver.
  6. Found a rare undetected park this weekend (I'm assuming). It was started in the late 20's. The first day,Saturday was 36 degrees and windy. My buddy with the nox 800, found around $5.00 in clad and a 37 merc. and a 1940 WL 1/2 dollar. I hit nothing but clad about $4.00. Sunday was way colder, but a way better day for finds. My buddy again hit up on 3 merc's and a small silver ring. I redeemed myself by finding a 1918 merc a 1959 rosevelt and a 1964 Kennedy 1/2. I also found a lone buffie, (my first one in years), game galaxy token, $3.50 in clad and what I believe to be an Oldsmobile key ring ? Not sure of the era on this, but it has a serial # on the back. Seems to be made from brass. Very cool find I think. We stopped digging penny's within the first hour, this place was filthy with them. I'm looking forward to some more good finds here soon, because we only hunted an acre out of about 30.
  7. Warm rain on a Noreaster.... The wind chill was very bone chilling but... I poked 6 holes into the lawn in an hour,well with a few trips back inside to warm up ! The ground was totally thawed and the diggin was easy. Final tally , a pull tab , an 80s pepsi bottle screw on cap and a couple pieces of can slaw .... Yaaaaaa Hooooooo ! skuh kuh kuh kuh kuh kuh kuh Got another hour or so till sunset ,hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm do I hear Nox music ??????? jim in ma Got your message , but can't seem to reply there today . 10/4 , best kind of hunt is when you know something is there ! I almost hit the beach today but the wind was brutal and decided to wimp out and stay near the heater LOL
  8. Today I had the chance to get out for a couple of hours to do some hunting and decided on a place where over the past 200 years they have had to rebuild the church 3 times. During the time that the church has been at the same spot they have added on to it a few times to what it is today. This church sits on top of a hill next to the original cemetery when the church was built. I remember seeing some of the old photos that showed an old out house near the back of the church and started there. My first good signal was the typical trash that one would expect to find, and so was the next 20 signals. It seemed that I was going to strike out today when I had a very unusual signal or should I say signals on a small spot of ground. As I am digging I noticed what I thought was another piece of trash, and then I saw a round edge of something small. I pulled it out of the dirt and found a nice 3 cent piece. The signal was still on top of the hole I was digging and I pulled out 2 more coins, each of them were dimes. I rechecked the hole again and nothing else was there, so I decided to fill the hole and call it a day. I don't think it was to bad for just an hour and a half. Here are the photos I took in the car of the coins before I can get them cleaned.
  9. Wow I can't believe I got out yesterday to dig. It seems like work and the stress of things in 2020 took a toll on my detecting experiences for quite a while. I wanted a new coil for the MK and saw a post Kac made about the Nel Superfly, So I said what the heck I'll give it a try. This coil is 6 grams lighter than my 9 inch. I must say this coil is amazing!!! great depth and way better separation. So I went to give it a spin on a site I hunt that has some modern and 18th century history to it. (ball fields and farm fields). I swung for about 5 hours in the 35 degree weather, and found a bunch of coins,(1941 penny, 46 nickle) shot shells, suspender clip, fishing reel, and a fragmented old bell. I wish the bell was whole, because it was about 2'' in dia. The reel perplexes me because of the lack of water in the middle of a 20 acre field. Overall I had a really nice trip out, I was starting to forget how detecting can clear your mind. PS Joe D can you please send some of the Florida warmth up here to PA.
  10. Thanks to forum members for showing me how to clean and cash in my coins, didn't pay for my nox 800, but sure made the wife happy with Amazon credit. We now have some nice new cookware. 😃 ht
  11. Hi everybody, I wanted to thank you all for welcoming us to this forum last year. Thanks for the info, the advice and the support. It helped me create an amazing bond with my son. I am grateful to you all. Here’s a little video of some of our favorite moments of the crazy year. Best to you all!
  12. I am new to detecting but have about 400 hours of YouTube detecting experience 😁. I got my equinox 800 about 3 weeks ago and have dug at 3 places old school (war nickel and wheat penny), 60’s abandoned house (clad dime and memorial copper penny} and an old farm house/boarding house built in 1890’s ( GOLD ring, Mercury dime, 4 Buffalo nickels, 1 war nickel, 8 1945-48 nickels, 35 wheat pennies and 5 memorial pennies. I am very very happy with my less than 1 month of digging but somehow I feel I’m missing silver at the old farm house. With that many coins from to 30’s and 40’s and only one Mercury dime and 1 silver nickel I’m not sure but wanted opinions as to what I am missing or is it just coincidental that no silver is popping up. I’m running park 1, all defaults with noise cancel and ground balanced out except yesterday I slowed recovery to 4 and decreased FE to 4. Thanks for the add and looking forward to suggestions. Tony
  13. I tried finding my previous (2019) summary report and New Year's resolutions but failed. Well, I have the data (from my logs) and I roughly remember my goals -- find some new detecting spots. I left my old heavily searched (by me) schools and parks alone this year and returned to a couple I had barely detected plus one I had never detected. 90% of my year's detecting was spent on this last (previously undetected by me) site. All three yielded silver coins. Not surprisingly I spent most of my year in the one that seemed to be the best producer. I finally retired for good in February (I'd been 50% for the previous 1 1/2 years) and it did lead to more hours in the field, but not large multiples (311 hrs vs. my previous best of 263 hrs). My most noticeable increase in raw numbers was almost doubling my "other old coins" finds, those being pennies before Lincolns, denominations no longer minted (e.g. 2 cent), 5 cent pieces before Jeffersons plus the silver Warnicks, and all higher denominations prior to 1965 -- i.e. the silver years. I keep a separate category for Wheat pennies. My other old coin count (still modest compared to many here, some of you reporting 100 or more for the year) was 43 (previous record 22). I found 103 Wheaties along the way (previous record 90). Most of the increase in the 'others' was from nickels across the board (especially Buffies and Warnicks). Here's a photo of my last 6 month's 'other old coins': No rare or even semi-key date+mintmarks there. Both Indian Head Pennies are from the early 20th century (very common). I can't read the dates on the very badly worn V-nickel and two of the three Buffies (other is 1920 plain). The Jeffie (lower right) doesn't count as "other old coins" but is included because it's a fairly low mintage 1950 plain (not to be confused with the lowest mintage of the series which also came out that year, with Denver mintmark). The silver charm(?), at least I think it's silver, is not marked but I think it's some kind of artisan silver piece -- rather crudely made as you can see. Surprisingly I got very little silver jewelry this year since I dig everything about 20 on the Equinox (i.e. above Zinc pennies). I didn't buy a single detector this during 2020, only a couple coils (both for the Fisher F75). I feel like I learned a lot about using the Equinox but nowhere near everything I'd like to know and apply. Oh, one of the IHP's was found with the Tesoro Vaquero. (Only 9 hrs or about 3% of the year was spent hunting with anything except the Eqx and almost all of it with the 11" coil.) I used to buy a new (or used) detector every 8 or 9 months. The risk (and I paid for it) is not ever really learning one properly before I shelved it for the greener grass on the other side of the hill. I'm not making that mistake with the Equinox. For 2021, my goals/resolutions are the same, but to a higher magnitude. I'm going to find some local old, forgotten sites thru research and at least make an attempt to get permissions (if they are private, which is likely). The pandemic did hinder me a bit in 2020 with no detecting trips out of my local area. I have three promising permissions on hold (a 19th Century picnic/swimming hole, a 19th Century church site, and an 18th Century New England homestead -- none of these has ever been detected according to their owners). I missed getting out west for natural gold searching and ghosttowning. I should at least get to Colorado late spring or early summer for both and maybe Nevada (fingers crossed) again this year. While the weather is uncooperative for detecting I'll do more backyard testing and (finally) learn how to clean my now 294 Wheaties, many with dates currently hiding under the infamous green scale. (Maybe some semi-keys among them -- I hope, I hope.) If I can figure out how to pan in my (heated) workshop without making a mess I'll do some of that on uncooperative winter days as well. I do have some unpanned promising material and don't mind practicing with pseudo-gold (lead flakes), either. I hope all of you're pleased with your 2020 efforts and especially hope you harbor high aspirations for 2021. Happy New Year!
  14. I can't remember this being discussed but maybe I've missed it or forgotten it. Given how deep the Zed has been known to find small nuggets it seems to me it could do well on coins. Any experience (or reliable hearsay 😁) on this? As a distantly related sidelight, a couple weeks back on Curse of Oak Island (TV show) Gary Drayton is seen with a GPZ-7000 and it had the ML 19" coil mounted. It's impossible from watching alone to know how long he swung it but in terms of air time it was minimal and I don't recall any footage of them digging a target he found with it. Later he was back to his trusty ML CTX3030, so maybe just a publicity/advertising stunt. (It's also risky to interpret scenes on these shows as reliably chronological, so maybe we'll see more of the 7000 in later episodes.)
  15. I have found 0 but one buddy found 1 and a other found 2.The one that found 2 also found a $1 gold coin made into a love token.
  16. One thing I suspect has annoyed coin hunters in the USA for a long time is how close (sometimes equal) the VDI of aluminum trash is to that of the 25% Ni, 75% Cu 5 cent 'nickel' coin. I tend towards the "if in doubt, dig it out" camp but it has been mentioned (Jeff McClendon comes to mind) that minimizing digging can be a big plus in some parks where the employees and users notice and are bothered by any sign that digging has occurred. That's not much of an issue where I live, partly because our parks don't seem to get much attention when it comes to the quality/plushness of the grass/sod. But even I prefer to avoid digging aluminum as it wastes time and I've been hunting this year in an old park that is absolutely loaded with pulltabs. My Minelab Equinox coin hunting search mode has always been and continues to be Park 1. I notch out nothing and custom my 5 tone breaks at tone-1 ends at TID 5 or 6 (put the lowest non-ferrous in with ferrous), next tone ends at 11 (keep the foil, etc. below nickels), 12-13 only (nickel sweetspot), 14-19 (most pulltabs), and finally 20 and up (most coins along with some associated trash, most common being aluminum screwcaps which tend to be 21-23 but can fall outside both ends depending upon size and whether or not they've been flattened). One more point -- these settings are for locations where I don't expect anything earlier than Barber coins. If 3-cent pieces (both kinds), silver 5-cent (" half dimes"), or any gold coins are possible I would listen for and dig most everything above TID ~5 to not miss those. A couple months back I started using the User Profile option. At first I was playing around with Iron Bias (both FE and F2) settings, but decided for my sites and style it wasn't worth the possible loss of deep, iffy targets to warrant sufficient advantage of discerning crown caps or scraps of sheet metal (what some people call 'tin'). I don't know if they help with nails or not, but most nails that have been in the ground for a long time seem to grunt ferrous and I just live with (i.e. dig) those few that trick me. So after deciding to leave IB at F2=0 I then had an open 'slot' as to how to configure the User Profile. I decided (seemed to make sense...) that going with something quite a bit different than my search mode of Park 1 would be contrasting and might help identify good/bad targets. I went with Field 2, 50 tones, wide open (no notching). For the recovery speed setting I used Park 1's setting +2, so if I run Park 1 at RC=4 I set the User Profile Field 2 to RC=6. If Park 1 RC=5 I set Field 2 RC=7. (Those are the only recovery speeds I ever use in Park 1.) I typically come from two different angles of attack, especially in Field 2 which seems more sensitive to the shape/orientation of the target. (Important note: I always pinpoint and then check VDI's after that as I've noticed being off-center often doesn't give the most reliable VDI reading, and that seems especially the case in Field 2 when using this technique.) (Finally!) here's something I discerned after ~50 hours of park detecting: when I get a signal in Park 1 with TID in the {12,13} window (no 11's or 14's) then investigating further with Field 2 gave a 'tell' as to whether I was seeing aluminum or a USA nickel. If a nickel, the Field 2 TID would also be in {12,13} (although not necessarily identical to Park 1, in fact averaging a bit lower than Park 1). If Field 2 showed any 11's or lower then the target was aluminum. I never saw a case where Field 2 hitting 14 that was a nickel, either. (I did notice some crown caps which looked like nickels in Park 1 would hit 14 in Field 2.) In Park 1 most of my nickels are either solid 13 or (much more likely) a combination of 12 and 13. I have found a few that were solid 12. It's those solid 12's I'm most concerned about leading to false negatives, but since I've been experimenting with this technique I've found only one nickel that just nicked 11 in Field 2, and possibly I was off-center when I got the 11. I mean it was just a momentary tick, not repeatable. So false negatives (targets that this method says are not nickels but turn out to be) seem to be very rare. But what about false positives -- both Park 1 and Field 2 say it's a nickel (both are in {12,13} exclusively) but it ends up being something else? Those definitely happen. The most common in my sites are broken off (i.e. missing the ring) beavertails which have been folded/rolled over so that they mimic a coin in shape/extent as opposed to when they are elongated. Also this technique gets fooled by the smallest of the still intact ring-and-beavertails, particularly the ones without rivets. (See my avatar for an example. 😁) Warnings: 1) Most of the targets I've investigated with this technique were't very deep -- say 4 inches or less. If the signal indicates a deeper target, either from the volume of the Park 1 signal or the number of bars on the strength meter, I tend to dig if more than half the Park 1 VDI's are in {12,13} and nothing lower than 11 or higher than 14. Those occur infrequently enough that I just dig 'em. 2) This technique might be ground dependent. My soil is moderate so definitely not typical beach sand / Florida soil conditions but also not the difficult heavily magnetic type soils of some beaches and some Western USA locations, etc. 3) I don't know what happens if a coin is on edge. I need to test this in my back yard teststand which I'll put on my to-do list this week. That could throw a monkey wrench into things. 4) Here's a danger in this type of method. I thought I found another 'tell' with this technique -- largish iron pieces (not nails but things like pieces of can, pieces of cast iron pipe, say the size somewhere USA quarter to silver dollar size, but deep) could be distinguished. I found such a target which read VDI in the high 30's in Park 1 but dropped to the teens in Field 2. If I could eliminate those, that would save digging a large, deep holes (and the time involved). Then yesterday I got a similar signal (this time varying mid-20's to mid-30's in Park 1 and teens in Field 2) and decided to confirm my 'discovery', expecting a moderate piece of iron. It was an early Wheat cent (TID low 20's out of the hole)!! So how many good targets like that have I missed since "figuring out" that Park 1 high and Field 2 teens meant deep iron so don't dig?? My oversight is that I should have investigated this particular (uncommon) situation much more before reaching the conclusion that it was a good discrimination technique. Oh, we learn from our mistakes but I'd still rather not make them....
  17. Hey Everyone... Several months ago, I started honing in on nickel signals (Nox600 - 11,12,13,14) in addition to my high conductors and glad I did. I am digging more good finds at the mid tones. Check this out...Here are 307 nickels that I dug over past several months. I read somewhere that the averages are approx 200-250 nickels dug for each buff. Didn't mention V's or gold...only buffs.I guess I beat the averages... 307 nickels = 3 buffs, 3 v's, 1 war nickel, 1 18k gold ring and 1 gold buddha pendant... not bad huh? I didn't dig as much silver this year, cuz I only spent half the amount of time in the field from last year. Overall, adding nickel signals to my goals really kicked it up a notch. Merry Christmas everyone !!!
  18. Have you found one either detecting or in your change? We have a circulating clad coin worth taking a good look at and worth much more than a regular Mercury dime. Only 2 million released mixed with P and D quarters rolls per design. I see some going for $36 on E bay. Happy hunting.
  19. Hello all, I went back to the lake where i found a 1935 Walking Liberty Half, at the beginning of the year! I believe that coin was a fluke find, as none of my other coins found there even come close to that date range! Today, i went to another shallow water area where jet ski's tend to hang out, while people rest, or work on them! I had no expections of this spot, other than it has been on my "to detect" mental list for awhile! I was there about 3 hours, and only worked about a 5x20 foot area against the shore, but the targets were layered and plentiful! I unfortunately did not get any old coins or gold, but the amount of targets in this small area kept me plenty busy! I used Park 1, with sensitivity at 23, in a depth from few inches to about 2 feet! I was digging most every signal, and got very good at telling what denomination the coin targets where! And for many, i used my pinpointer for the final recovery, as most where under four inches in depth! I was really hoping for some lost jewelry, but no luck this time out! It seems that no one has bothered to detect this spot, due to the amount of targets i found in such a small area! While these are not very worthwhile targets, they are typical of my area, and provide some good practice with the Nox! I'm sure i can get a few more good hauls from this spot, as there is still quite a bit that is still unsearched! Maybe a little gold the next time out!🤞 👍👍 ** I wanted to add my thoughts on the bullet below! I'm a hunter, but by no means a bullet expert! So you ballistic's guy's, please chime in!! I believe that this bullet was fired in the air, and landed in the lake intact! I'm almost certain that there are rifiling marks around the base that show it was fired! (two are visible in pic)! Not sure of the caliber, but it's on top of a quarter for scale! Let me know your thoughts!👍👍
  20. Local water supply is super low from the drought we have here and was able to finally walk out to an island that is normally not that accessable. Not a whole lot on the island or at least what was in range of my Gold Racer's coil due to the erosion over the years but at least I got much of the curiosity out of the way. Out of it found a couple musket balls, shield nickel 18??, IH penny 18?4, old button with bit of guilding on the edges still on it, some odd double loop thing that looked like some junk jewelry. Lots of sinkers, various rounds and of course a Pencil Erasor!
  21. In September I was participating in 5th season of archeological dig for remains of huge silver treasure discovered in 2015. Treasure consist mostly of parted coins from Samanid Empire 8 to 9 century, Slavic jewelry and coins from Germany , Hungary and Denmark. In this season of digging ( 4 meetings) we discovered totally 150 fragments of treasure. Field were it was discovered is an iron carpet, were many detector fail to separate good targets from iron junk. I attend 2 digs and I was lucky to discover 35 silver items.
  22. With all the damage the many good explorer hunters did in my area to the silver turf population it shows me that the Nox is at or near the top of the class for silver coins.This is all from hard hit spots with about 15 from the water.My friend who just switched from the explorer to the nox(this year) is at 48 and he has won the title for most silver in a year many times.He has the best 2 silver coins with a barber half and a seated quarter .I did manage 3 walker halves and a 1894-o barber dime.I agree with people when they say if they could only use 1 machine that they would pick the nox. I am at a 102 so maybe I can focus on some turf gold since I only have 1 for the year and the only reason I dug it was because it was a nickle hit next to a wheat penny I just dug.
  23. I'm having a bout of lack of confidence in my MK. My second 11'' coil today started to act just like my old one. (CRAP)... Short story - Went over an area and hit a high 90's number and broken signal. My buddy with the 800 went over it and dug two silver quarters a 1929 and a 1942. So here's my question to all, Do I get a Nox 800???? I mostly coin and relic hunt, with a beach maybe twice a year. So I want the good the bad and the ugly. honest and true answers on performance, warranty and coil choices. I'm not a big fan of the tones, but I might be able to forgive that for a more stable running machine. Not looking for overly complicated either. I keep hearing that there is a BIG learning curve? Can you run in factory settings and still be happy? or do you have to be a mathematician to learn it? I do not want to carry 50 index cards with setting numbers!!! SO all that own and run one please let me know your thoughts good or bad. Just looking for help before pissing away another $1200+ God help me, I'm running out of excuses for my wife, so you members better give me some good answers.
  24. Last night I went to a beach that yielded a lot of targets. On my 6 hour hunt from 8 PM to 2 AM I got 51 quarters, 40 dimes and nickels, 54 pennies (one wheat), 2 silver rings and one 10k gold ring. There should have been more rings! The trash was another 50 pieces or so. When you figure it is 4-5 scoops per target (1000 total) then it adds up to a stiff back in the morning. I found the gold ring 2/3rds of the way through the session about the time the fog started rolling in which made for an enjoyable sight as it covered up the normal lights but there was still a mostly full moon above. I was using the 15 inch coil and when I started I was down a couple of notches from full power. I thought there would not be much on the beach but I was wrong and kept pushing along finding some high cuts. Near the end of the session the detector was nearly out of power and I could hear a lessening in my headphones. Something I've wanted to say about the 3.0 update is that it really makes the quarters crackle. I don't think I remember them like that before and I wish they would be a little more 'solid' but perhaps it is because of the sandwich metals.
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