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What is the best device and method to find ancient objects in high depths? (above 2 meters) in Persia? Can you guide me please?

I visit several Facebook (Meta) group specific VLF detector sites along with making it a point to regularly come to this awesome forum while also checking in over at Friendly. I am saddened by what I see being reported as depth issues after performing online available software updates for detectors like Deus 2, Equinox 600/800 and of course, everyones whipping post, the Legend. I have not been to a Manticore Facebook site yet. Maybe there are depth issues being reported there too. I am sure there will be similar issues with the Equinox 700/900 if there ever is an update. I am saddened because being able to do an online software update is one of the real advantages of these detectors that are offered by their engineering teams. Plus, these really are state of the art, excellent detectors. It also saddens me because after reading these reports, I wonder if there is something wrong with my software updated detectors, the software itself, the downloaded update tool or are there different board level components or different main PC boards being implemented by some of these manufacturers post production due to supply chain issues that simply work better than the original parts/boards or just the opposite. My last reasonable wondering is: are the variables in computers and their capabilities, operating systems, firewalls, virus prevention software along with the differing quality of various internet data services just too big of a hurdle for these company's software engineers to plan for properly? Then there is the remote possibility which is just nuts.........are these companies trying to sabotage each others detectors online by infecting each others software and update tools or is there a third party source for this malign behavior. Please tell me that is not going on. There certainly are a few unfortunate people like D. Smith on this forum and his Legend issues which are real. There seem to be others that simply are setting up their detectors to fail judging from their postings and supporting videos which usually show improper settings for the task they are trying to do. Then there is the piling on/placebo effect. Just to put my mind at ease, I took both of my Legends, Manticore, Equinox 800 and Deus 2 with their biggest 11" coils out to my test area to detect some 8"+ deep in the ground small high conductor US coin targets. Even in their most basic/conservative settings BUT with lowered iron filter/iron bias settings and with the iron target IDs/audio accepted, they easily and fairly equally hit all of those targets. Whooooh, that feels better.

I recently had a conversation with a well-known Electronic Prospector about companies, technology, etc. He stated that D/D coils go deeper than Concentric. If that's the case, why have all the PI Gold Hunters resorted to Mono coils? Bruce Candy and not Eric Foster invented Pulse Induction. The story I heard was Eric Foster first approached Whites with the PI Technology and was turned down. He then went to Minelab and the rest is History. Minelab sold Garrett the Technology to make the Axiom. I'd like to give Garrett a little more credit than that! Does anybody want to chime in?

Greetings! I have a thought that I believe, would produce the biggest-selling Gold Detector the market has seen since the introduction of the Gold Bug 2. A 71 kHz Gold Bug. It would be the lightest VLF Gold Detector out there. Minelab Gold Monster 1000 = 3+ lbs., with Battery Garrett Goldmaster 24K = 3.4 lbs. Nokta Gold Finder 2000 = 3.7 lbs. Nokta Gold Kruzer = 3 lbs. Gold Bug = 2.5 lbs. They could keep the Gold Bug @ 19 kHz and reintroduce the Pro model @ 71 kHz OR keep those two the same and make a Pro Model called the Gold Bug 71. I'd buy one as soon as they were available and as a dealer would push them like crazy.

Hello everyone. The following is an air test using the Legend with the 11” coil, all metal, max sensitivity, default recovery speed, on a silver dime and a large diameter 10k gold ring. I tested in my backyard that has what I would call “medium” EMI (3 medium power lines, and 1 low power line). I would consider being near those large power towers as “high” EMI, and out in the country with no power lines near, as “low” EMI. I’ll follow up tonight or tomorrow with the results of the same test in a low EMI area. Even though I tested using the Legend, I’m thinking the results would be similar with other similar detectors and the same testing methodology. M1 is mid weighted, M2 is high weighted, and M3 is low weighted. Silver dime / Gold ring M1 - 13” / 17” M2 - 13” / 19” M3 - 13” / 17” 4 khz - 12” / 14” 20 khz - 13” / 19” 40 khz - 13” / 17” I’m giving my margin of error as ½” either way, but realistically, there was no “oh wow” air depth difference on the silver dime using any SMF or SF mode. However, there could very well be a depth difference based on the ground mineralization. But, I’m testing EMI in relation to depth, so the air test will suffice for this type of test.

We’ve all seen numerous separation tests posted on YouTube and the vast majority that I’ve seen are simply air tests. I've conducted numerous separation tests over the years and one thing is most apparent....at least to me....air testing separation capabilities borders on a waste of time...for the most part. Most recent example; I successfully separated good targets from bad using the Deus II in Beach Sensitive during an air test i.e. targets were exposed on the ground’s surface with approximately 1 inch separation. When I buried those same targets at the same distance, one from the other, at a depth of 3 and 6 inches, NO separation….and this is not unusual. I pretty much ignore air tests of any kind. Why? That's obviously NOT the way we hunt. We detect targets that are buried in sand or soil don't we? I always abide by the Army approach from my day...."Train as you fight." Can you get something out of air testing? Doubtful, maybe, sometimes, but don't take those results to the bank...if you do you'll be sorely disappointed when you apply those same parameters/results to buried targets. Bottom line...for me: Tests that are conducted under the same realistic conditions that we find in the field will be much more reliable than those conducted under artificial conditions such as air tests...no matter how elaborate. I've seen far too many spurious results from tests conducted under artificial conditions. Just the experience from my old foxhole....you may have a different experience.

I always thought that GB settings were independent of the Recovery Speed. Is that true for the MF detectors, like the Equinox: i.e. if the recovery speed is adjusted, does the GB stay the same, or also needs to be changed as a result, everything else being equal?

First off I have watched several youtube explanations of threshold. I think as a noob, I am missing something. I just don’t really see the usefulness of more tones to listen to and process. Am I right in understanding a break in threshold is the same as an iron grunt? Can someone who uses threshold explain the benefit?

I have a detecting trip coming up in a couple of weeks here in OZ and will be detecting around the new moon phase . I was wondering if anyone has noticed any influence with the moon full or empty when they have been detecting? I Personally like the full moon due to how much brighter and easier it is to navigate around when night I'm detecting. I have noticed that the ground is a little bit nosier as apposed to no moon, but still not 100% sure. We all know the moon influences the tides and animal behavior. Does it affect EMI ?, ground noise ? hot rocks etc. Cheers Ozgold

Over the last three to four years we have eagerly awaited new machines that will give us an edge to find the ever so deep or trash hidden targets. We have seen multiple manufactures come out with detectors will all kinds of bells and whistles that are supposed to make our hobby more exciting. I've seen lighter, deeper, MORE power, user friendly, more expensive, Multi frequency and the list goes on and on. As each and every day passes, more and more housing developments and parks are being constructed. With that comes a tremendous amount of new power lines (buried or overhead) and WIFI. There are places that I hunt that EMI was never a factor, But now I'm dealing with it on a regular basis. I'm fairly sure that most of the issues are WIFI related (maybe I'm wrong). For instance I can detect directly under a huge power line with very little interference, While I hunt a particular park with a housing/townhouse development that borders it and my machines will go mental. This one park in particular at 7:00am on a Saturday will be quite peaceful, and be unbearable by 9:30am. I'm guessing that as people wake up they are hitting up their social media accounts and other various computer related stuff which causes all of my suffering. I can not be the only one that is dealing with this problem. So the first question is would you like to see a machine that can deal with/overcome EMI and WIFI??? Second question, Can Manufactures deal with this issue or is it some KHZ related issue that we have to live with thanks to the FCC??? Third question, Is it even on their radar??? This is an issue that most of us bitch about but nothing seems to change or get addressed. SO let me know what your thoughts are, This has been bugging me for quite some time. I hope the Engineers from Minelab, Nokta, Garrett and others are listening, This is something that I would be really interested in!!!!

A friend of mine from France bought it and saw the gold bracelet with a big coil at 1 meter 35 cm. The seller and producer is a young person, looks like a very entrepreneurial person, I did a lot of research. And his father has all his detectors tested in the volcanic region, almost at the foot of Mount Ararat. Most detectors can't pass through volcanic stones and stones that show metallic reaction. Should I buy Extreme Deepest with you? There are descriptions of the product on the Extreme Detectors official website, but when I asked them, they said that they would shoot field videos of the product, if there is another field from this device, I want to buy it. It is really not easy to get a gold bracelet with a big coil, so if it is a collective treasure or treasure , he will find it more deeply . What do you think, what is your opinion?

I gave my original 1991 Whites Eagle spectrum to my second oldest grandson 25 years old a week ago. Memory is some thing that needs prompting at my old age, required to get by or great/dreadful/survival memories that are easily remembered. He has gone out and brought the accessories coin shovel, pin-pointer and detector harness as soon as he could with no input from me, but his choice was not too bad. As I was given the detector by the wife of my boss who I showed my methods of chasing gold in the 1980 to 1999 (he was the Charge Engineer at a 1500 Megawatt Power station where I worked) when he died 20 years ago. At that time gold in West Aust. was more important that learning his detector. So far my grandson has been air-rating his dad lawn 🤣 that is completely full of junk that it is hard to find a square foot of area of no junk. So far he has got a few coins (including a USA 1 cent and I got a Canada 5¢ coin) and a lot of their broken small cars and othertoys. How ever he played with the setting before he went to a beach and found he could get only a inch or two on coins. When I tried to adjust the setting I manage to pick up the Canada coin at 6" which was a great improvement on his setting. He has seen most of my coin and gold finds he thinks this OLD granddad is an expert and knows how to set it up better than him. This resulted in me doing some research on vintage detectors to find what I was dealing with. Anyhow I found this article that might interest/revoke memory of you guys. Are Old Metal Detectors as Good as the New Ones? .......Souce LINK.......

Its 32 degrees F with north winds blowing 15 to 20 mph so I gave up on detecting today. Anyone thinking of buying a current or newer model Simplex, ORX, Deus 1 or X-Terra Pro who has tough soil or saltwater/black sand beach conditions might want to pay attention to these results assuming that the selectable single frequency tech in the Equinox, Legend and Deus 2 is similar to their single/selectable single frequency only model counterparts. I did decide to do some outdoor test garden target ID comparisons between the simultaneous multi frequency technology and the selectable single frequency technology of the Equinox 800, Equinox 900, Legend and Deus 2. I have moderate to high iron mineralization in my test garden so these results will be on the extreme side. Check the Multi results for each detector to see what the target IDs should be relatively speaking. A US nickel 6" deep, US clad dime 6" deep and a US clad quarter 6" deep were the targets. They have been in the ground, undisturbed for 3 years at least. The 6" clad dime is a really tough target in these soil conditions. All four detectors even in their Multi setting up averaged the clad dime quite a bit. These are just my test results on a cold windy day. They may not be the same for you. So, just some information....nothing more.

Friends good morning or good afternoon or good night to all detectorist friends. NOKTA has already arrived in Brazil, the prices of its products started to be cheaper than in the past, when all were imported and taxes here in Brazil are very high. I found this device Nokta Pulse Dive 2 in 1 - Pulse Induction, Operating Frequency: 3 kHz, Frequency Shift: Yes, Waterproof up to 60m. Plus it makes it possible to look for gold because it's a PI or it's just for diving. Because I have a gold monster VLF, it is better than gold monster penetrates deeper into mineralized ground. If you've heard about this Nokta Pulse Dive 2 in 1 device, please leave a comment, here in Brazil we don't have much information about IP technology. Another question about this pulse induction device (PI) does it have an Operation Frequency, VLF type. Example: Fisher GOLD BUG-2 71KHZ, GOLDMASTER 24K 48KHZ Now the PI: GPX 5000, GPX 6000, SDC 2300, what frequency do they work? I'm using Google translator, if it's not correct I apologize.

It would be informative for an out of the box zero adjustment head to head comparison on the Legend, E900 , Deus II and Manticore and any other machine you choose. Run each detector in the closest stock program with just a ground balance. We'll see how good the stone stock factory setup is for a beginner. None of this "If I do this it equals that stuff". Real targets in the ground, no air testing, same targets for each obviously. No headphones. A stock car drag race!

Hello Dears, I am planning to buy the Titan GER 1000 device for gold research and I need your opinion before proceeding. I opted for this machine because of its 45M depth. Thank you in advance for your understanding and support

My Air Metal Detector. Very nice construction. I will load the old ap and give it a play this weekend.

I am also hoping for better small gold discrimination on a PI detector, but as Steve has described in the below article this is a hard thing to accomplish. Even the GPX-6000, GPZ, SDC have all dropped discrimination from it's features probably due to the smaller disseminated gold capabilities it's after and the fact that these latest Minelab detectors are more of a true gold detector vs. a multipurpose gold and relic/coin detector such as the GPX-5000. Even though the Axiom has small gold capabilities and offers partial discrimination, it is also very limited at separating out two foot deep 3" nails. Please read the following note from the Garret Axiom owner's manual below: Note: Iron Check is a conservative function. To help ensure Axiom does not misidentify a good target as iron, the iron tone (buzz) will only activate on strong signals. Therefore, small/weak iron targets may not identify as iron. In addition, due to their large, flat surface area and relatively high conductivity, steel bottle caps will typically not identify as iron. Examples of iron targets that will produce the iron tone (buzz) are: a 3-inch nail to a depth of about 5 inches; and a ¾-inch boot nail to a depth of about 2 inches. In highly mineralized areas, Iron Check accuracy may be affected. And in the comparison chart from the GP-3000 located below nothing has really changed in this regard over a 20 plus years timeframe. Miracles can happen, so maybe in the future we will see some new breakthroughs in PI's discrimination capabilities, but so far just some more dig it all.

One day we're going to have a really smart chip in a detector. Until then we can read about some of the progress of the chips in phones and other applications. This article is about a chip in a Google Pixel phone. It doesn't need an internet connection to do its machine learning tricks. It adapts/learns on its own they say. It can take a blurry picture and make it clear. Isn't that what we want to happen to our detector sounds? I think some of us can live with fuzzy better than others. How Google Tensor Helps Google Pixel Phones Do More Look at magic eraser. It removes unwanted images in your photos. This makes me think of noise cancelling headphones or maybe a signal processing device which has nothing to do with the way the detector 'works.' Magic Eraser & Photo Unblur fix your photos on Pixel - Google Store Depleted detecting sites ... watch out!

Hello. In my area, I don't have salt, magnetite, or any other type of mineralized ground. But, I still like to learn about all aspects of metal defecting and ground conditions. So, here is my question with some preamble: Those that I know that have highly mineralized ground, aren't anywhere near maxing out the recovery speed. Yet, a You Tuber that I occasionally watch, claims that because of the mineralization in his ground, he has to run maximum recovery speed, or he loses depth. This is seemingly despite the fact that maximum recovery speed suffers a great deal of depth loss. Does he have some sort of unique mineralization in which that can be true?

I was wondering how comparable the Recovery speed adjustment is to an ISAT(Intelligent Self Adjusting Threshold) setting. As an example the Legend, Equinox 800/900, Deus/D2 have a Recovery/Reactivity adjustment. I understand it's purpose & application. The Anfibio Multi & I assume Multi Kruzer have an ISAT(IMASK on Anfibio 19) Are they basically the same? The Users Manual hints there is some difference.

Hello everyone, I would like to know your experiences regarding PI devices because I noticed that there are many people here on the forum who use this technology. We know that VLF detectors pick up shallower and have more discrimination to indicate ferrous or not. Uitlizam 2 coils one to send another to receive. Now regarding the PI (Pulse Induction) they use a coil winding, have less interference in mineralized soil and go deeper. They have an excellent depth range, but they have a problem: they don't have the ability to discriminate different types of metals? Share your experience in finding gold, how these PI devices behave in mineralized soil in hot stones and iron from the earth. I have the Gold monster 1000 it discriminates everything, but in mineralized soil the device is over a lot.

I wasn't sure what forum to post this in. Anyway, I found out that synthetic fertilizers contain not only salt, but metals. Can fertilizer contain enough salt and metals to affect ground balancing and/or performance?

I met Carter for the first time when he met me in Virginia too do this test with the then new Blisstool. It passed and I still have the Tool to be my Pulses Wing Man when I go up the road.