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  1. Morning everyone, Had a search of the forum and although there are a few mentions of the 14" DD in various thread content I couldn't find a specific thread for discussion around it. Did a video a few days ago getting a few small pieces of gold and small rubbish at a location I've found lots of small gold in a small area. I know that I like watching videos and many of us often encourage others to do a video of this or that. I figure that rather than asking everyone else to do it I should probably do some of the hard yards myself! This is certainly not an advertisement of a Youtube channel and I have no illusions that my production quality or information provided is any better than fairly average 🤣 Something for you Northern Hemisphere folk to watch during the cold months. Happy for anyone to add to the discussion, link a video, show some DD finds or provide some tips on the thread. The thing I found interesting about this was that the target shown at 3.55 mins was quite bright in Normal ground mode. It ended up being no target at all and just a small pocket of really wet clay. The fact that it brightened up with the DD surprises me. The fact that it then brightened up quite a bit more in Normal maybe should have alerted me to the fact that it was ground noise and not a genuine target as the difference in signal on small pieces of gold swapping between Difficult and Normal has been quite small. Cheers, N.E.
  2. So, my beach season hunting has officially started. I was going to shoot for two days hunting but a wash out on Thursday made me change some plans. I had reserved Thursday for the GPX 6000 and the 14” DD coil, but had to settle for trying the 6000, 5000 and Equinox on Friday. I changed beach locations too and ended up at the less EMI beach for the day. Started out using the GPX 5000 for clearing out some of the recently deposited junk in an area that has produced silver before. I thought the storms that ripped through the previous day would remove some sand, but it was just the opposite…. sand deposited along 3/4 of the beach (top to bottom). Also, high tide reach to the highest point of the beach, so I could only hunt where the waves did not constantly reach up top. The 5000 did well considering the beach was really sanded in and gave me my first silver of the season – a 1955 Washington quarter. The rest was clad, but for 2 copper pennies. Some junk jewelry, and maybe some iron shot or just a ball bearing, - it measured .75 caliber. The big spoon was found at 20” and I thought I was going to get a beer can or some big iron, so that was a nice surprise. Hunted with the 5000 for 6 hours and decided I cleared enough to try the 6000 in that spot. The EMI was a bit more than usual but not really bad. I’m still not sold on that 14” coil. I tried both ground settings, as well as both Salt mode and EMI mode. I tried auto, auto +, manual (full) and manual (setting 1) and some in between. I just could not get the 6000 to not false on the sand. It was partially damp, as high tide receded a while ago, but with a sensitivity of 1, I would have expected a smooth clean machine. IDK maybe the coil is not good. I did not bring the 11” mono as I really wanted to see if the salt mode would work on the 14” DD. Being a bit disappointed, and after trying all combinations of settings, I called it after around 10 minutes. So, the tide was getting as low as it was going to be, so I hunted for 3 hours with the Equinox and traded my spade for my scoop. I didn’t use the Nox much last season as the 5000 was killing the silver, so the Nox sat idle. But I wanted to see if the heavy waves dropped anything on the beach along with all that sand. There weren’t many targets, so I dug everything to get a feel for all the numbers. The hairpins and tiny wire all read a steady -2, -3. The Nox did well for the short time I used it and if I wasn’t beat from the hunt, I would have stayed in the area that was producing some coins. It was the best machine for the day to give me a chance at some gold. It felt really, really good to get out and just walk the beach. Next week all 3 machines will be at the crazy EMI beach. I will have the mono coin and the DD to see if this beach (dry sand) will be ok for the 14” coil. Can’t wait!!!
  3. Seeing how this topic has numerous mentions across the internet, what are the range of faults exhibited? My nearest dealer is over an hour from me so I don't want to travel back and forth after picking mine up if I get a faulty one. So I know what to look for after collection and field test.
  4. Hello All, The new Minelab 17" Elliptical Searchcoils for the Minelab GPX 6000 have been flying off the shelves, definitely high demand. Due to the high demand, I haven't had much time to use one, everyone ends of taking mine ... LOL I haven't seen much larger gold being found at depth yet, but I'm sure it is. Curious how people and past customers are doing with this new 17" Searchcoil beyond covering more ground quicker? We still have a few left in stock from the last large shipment and more on the way if anyone is still searching for a new "Christmas present.!" Hahaha Would love to see some pictures or at least hear about any success with the new searchcoil. Wishing you all much success on the goldfield. 17" Searchcoil available here - https://www.robsdetectors.com/minelab-gpx-6000-17-searchcoil/ Rob
  5. Do you think that the GPX6000 should have been classified as a GPX? Steve mentions in his review that it was "like" the SDC he always wanted. So maybe this should have been called the SD6000 (gotta keep the price in the name 🤣) Or maybe this should be the GS6000 for Geo Sense, a new line of detectors. I do not know the the history of the SD vs GP vs GPX in technology but I think Minelab might have gotten a better response if they named it different and showed it off as a "different new" detector vs an upgrade in the GPX lineup. Unless of course it really does belong in the GPX line up. I have never used a GPX so I am just guessing here, I started detecting when the SDC came out, my first detector. Would love to hear some philosophical technical input here.
  6. Well my staff/I just finished the season and wrap up of field training for 2021 and our customers...and boy did it go out with a bang and big belly's thanks to Chef Rusty Bucket. Smoked ribs, Bourbon shrimp in garlic sauce, berry pie and ice cream, smoked Brisket, bacon wrapped stuffed jalapenos and more. Wish I would have taken more pics of the food. As I have said before, the food/drinks/people are part of why I enjoy these trips, as I know the gold will eventually come. As many know, Gerry’s Detectors has been training out there at the burn barrel with a few different staff members since the 90’s. We have been using just about every model of gold detector from the top manufactures as well as coils to see what the best results are. The comparisons of customers detectors continue to see the improvements of technologies and capabilities which is what we want. Yes there are times a more expensive detector may not produce the best signal response on that particular targets, but it’s what it is and part of learning. Some of what we found most amazing and it’s exactly what I expected would happen during the training at RP. The gold nuggets being found during the 3 days of class was the most of any session in at least 5+ yrs. More people went home with actual Rye Patch gold than what my staff/I have witnessed in quite a long time. The knowledge shared was the same stuff we always go over, but the knowledge retained was higher. The class size is usually around the same, but the amount of golden smiles of success was better than many yrs prior. We know the VLF detectors when fit with small coils are going to find a few pickers, but to see the bigger PI machines perform so well and produce such higher %’s of beautiful NV gold was most impressive. So lets go over it again to see what my Staff/I observed, in no particular order. Knowledge of customers detectors was actually retained, smiles of happy customers making the right choice of detectors, the amount of successful customers who went home with gold and the overall numbers of gold nuggets dug by the students. There is one thing that I corollate all these positives and it’s the new GPX-6000, period. Yes we had SDC-2300’s, GPZ-7000, GPX-5000’s and the usual VLF’s in the class being learned by the students and those who were there with the GPX-6000 had the most Success. But the success of gold nugget finds was just part of the fun. Ease of operation and simplicity we’ve never seen from a PI Minelab was also most impressive. The customers were actually not afraid of their detectors. They didn’t worry if the timing and or sequence of adjustments was correct, as the GPX-6000 is pretty much a turn on and go. The old way, a big multi page instruction manual (is missing) and now we get a 3 step Quick Start…and it’s true. 1) Turn On. 2) Raise/Lower Coil for 10s, 3) Begin Detecting. Are you kidding me, no way that can’t be true. We just paid $6000 for one of the latest technology fine tuned gold detectors in the world and all we get in the box to help learn, is 3 short steps with a combined total of 10 words? Well folks, it’s all true and so is the amount of happy customers who invested in our training and the new GPX-6000. If anyone thinks there was some other reason for the above, please chime in as all indicators are bulls eyed at the GPX-6000. Overall the trip went exceptionally well consider the 100 yr rain storm that came through while we were down there. I still love the natural beauty of Northern NV in the fall and the colors on the gold nuggets we dug. Hopefully the Spring/Summer class will be just as productive with a group of new enthusiastic customers and more gold being unearthed.
  7. My first 6000 was faulty out of the box which they replaced with a new one. I've had the new one for 21 days and probably used it 8 days before it went bad. When i was boxing it up to ship back i heard something rattling inside of it, not good. In researching i found that they've known them to have major issues since March or April, yet they have refused to address the issue with a production stop or at least look at the different production runs and recall those units. I think when it's all said and done there will be a substantial number of them that are faulty worldwide. As it stands now, Detector Center states that there is a" temporary" 10- 14 day time frame for repairing them. My bet is that it's not going to be temporary. If this failure rate continues there may be grounds for a worldwide class action lawsuit, who knows. Oh, and i owned a business for 40 years. Not a very smart way to run a business. JMO.
  8. It should be getting obvious the GPX 6000 is a great nugget detector. I think it also has great possibilities for beach detecting for jewelry. If somebody was to ask me about relic detecting, I’d tell them the same thing I say about the GPZ 7000 - way too sensitive to tiny ferrous. There is such a thing as too sensitive, and the fact that the GPX 5000 can be set up to miss the tiniest ferrous is actually an advantage. The 6000 will bang hard on the tiniest slivers of ferrous stuff, like almost invisible bits of hair thin wire. However, it might be something those who already have the machine might want to play with, and I have already been learning a few discrimination tricks while beach detecting. Anyone familiar with the Minelab PI detectors knows you get two main tone responses, either a high tone, or a low tone. The simple way to think of what these tones mean is high tone = small or weaker / low conductive targets, and low tone = large or stronger / high conductive targets. The dividing line between the two is not fixed, but varies with the ground balance setting. This means people in lower mineral ground will not get the same results as those in high mineral ground. It’s a complex subject, one I go into great detail at here. The GPX 6000 has one bit of magic for this task. The Normal/Difficult ground setting button. It allows a change in the tone response by simply pressing a button. I do not know the details of Normal vs Difficult, but it changes the timings enough to flip the tone response on many targets. I found I could use it to get four different target classes. Hi tone normal, high tone difficult = Aluminum foil, misc aluminum, wire, most bottle caps, misc small ferrous - low VDI targets. Small gold. Hi tone normal, low tone difficult = Nickel range targets, larger aluminum. Larger gold. Low tone normal, low tone difficult = Zinc penny range targets. Even larger gold. Low tone normal, high tone difficult = Quarters, dimes, copper penny, high VDI targets, nails (larger ferrous). Silver rings. The results closely mimic my coin detecting results with other ground balancing PI detectors, but with a big difference. With all the other machines I had two classes of targets. High tone small stuff, low conductors, and low tone large stuff, high conductors. This new method delivers four target classes, potentially a big step up in discrimination capability with a PI. Ferrous can show up in any of the ranges, just depends on size and type. By digging the fourth category, it’s basically just high conductive coins, and nails. No zinc pennies or aluminum screw caps. Not good if you have lots of nails, but I will be doing this in a park soon, as many parks are not loaded with nails. Others might be, so it’s site specific. The other big caveat I already mentioned. This assumes bad ground, with a ground balance setting to match. The GPX 6000 is automatic and sets its own ground balance. You have no way to set and lock it, unlike a TDI. So I have no idea where the tone shifts will occur in other ground. The good news is that you really don’t need a PI as much in low mineral ground. This might allow people to get more depth on silver coins in really bad ground. The DD coil also skews results, depending on which mode it is in, salt or cancel. In other words folks, I’m looking for people who are willing to experiment, and document. I will be doing more of this and adding new information here as I go. Any adventurous souls, please do the same. There is a definite crude discrimination system included with the GPX 6000, by way of an easy button push. Let’s figure it out, and it may open up some new detecting possibilities. I blew it on my first go at this, as I dropped finds into different pockets of my pouch, to separate them by category for a photo, along with the trash. Then I got home and by habit just dumped it all in my sieve to sort the sand and trash out - oops. So will do better at that next time. Bottom line is I got real good at calling out the coins before digging. There are some real possibilities here for the adventurous types - PI naysayers need not apply!
  9. Each time I try and ground balance my 6000 there is no detectable change. While holding the GB button I pump the coil then move it side to side. It’s like it don’t work. I friend of mine says his does not either. What am I missing? I run in manual mode with the threshold on. The noise cancel works very well.
  10. This is from Steve’s GPX 6000 accessories page. The following items do not come with the GPX 6000, but are likely to work with it based on what is known so far. This is preliminary guesswork, and it is not advised a purchase be made based solely on the information presented here. https://parts.minelab.com/0302-0082-p/0302-0082.htm
  11. How many hours run time are most of you guys getting on a set of gpx 6000 batteries 7.5 for me with no back light
  12. I was pretty excited about this one so I couldn't resist posting the video of it, it's a 12x6" prototype test coil being used on the GPX 6000 to find gold, it found 3 bits on it's first run. This was one of my favourite coils on the older model GPX and if I end up with the new GPX it will be a size I'd have to have. It's long sensitive nose was great getting up between the rocks I regularly hunt in. This is purely for information for those interested in following the progress of the coils. These coils are not being sold by them yet, it's in a testing stage and they will require an adapter which involves removing a chip from the original coil. You'll see in the photo the adapter inline on the coil cable which has the chip in it that was removed from the standard mono coil. And the video The 3 bits of gold found while testing it. The one to the left was the one found in the video.
  13. I run in manual 8 9 and 10 normal ground when in auto auto 2 normal ground this is for northern Calif. When the ground is wet from the rains I switch to difficult ground . With the gpx 6000.. For Nevada with the gpx 6000 do you guys prefer manual or auto sensitivity
  14. I purchased the GPX 6000 from @Gerry in Idaho a few months back and had only taken it out once for about 45 minutes and had to put it away because it was screaming at me due to iron scattered everywhere. Fast forward to this past weekend, I went down to Rye Patch to @Gerry in Idaho's training to really get out and try this thing out. I ended the trip with 8 pieces totaling 3.7 grams, cleaned. The biggest piece was pretty cool so I am including pictures of both sides of that one, 1.5 grams cleaned. All 8 were found right around the burn barrel area. Thank you to Gerry and all of his staff for a great time and knowledge! @Lunk @afreakofnature and the rest of the team.
  15. Went to some old dry wash workings under powerlines to try out the 14 inch coil. This little guy was hiding just beneath the desert pavement near the old workings within 30 ft of high voltage overhead lines. Over the course of a couple hours dug multiple trash targets including small lead shot. Not the easiest coil to pinpoint with, but small targets in high EMI impressed me. Desert north of Yuma. Mike
  16. Hey Guys, Well its that time of year where most of the US Prospectors are searching for gold, in the Southwest at least. I managed to get out this weekend with some friends, just roaming around some old stomping grounds in hopes to turn up a few bits missed years prior. I was toggling between my GPZ 7000 with the NF 12" coil and my GPX 6000 with the 11" coil. My other two friends were using the GPZ 7000's with the stock 14x13" coils. Later in the day I can across some old piles left from prior mining and got a softer sounding signal and decided to investigate. My friends both had a few dinks now, so I was behind on the gold count. There's a lot of left behind rubbish in this area due to prior mining, hardrock and placering. I figured it was just another deep nail or something, but as I got down deeper, the target was actually on bedrock below the pile. I ended up scratching everything away from the bedrock and pinpointed the target in a crevice or depression (seen in picture below). Low and behold, it was a nice gold nugget, 4.6 Dwt's, just shy of 1/4 Troy Ounce. I was pleasantly surprised to say the least, didn't expect it. I thought this would be good time to see if my Minelab GPX 6000 would hear this target with the stock 11" coil on it. I walked back to my truck, got the GPX 6000 and hiked back to the target location. I figured this would be a crude, but interesting test as there is so much debate on depth and how now many believe the GPX 6000 is better. I fired the GPX 6000, balanced and make sure the EMI was good, then scanned over the target area with the nugget back in it's original location. I couldn't hear a peep of a signal, which honestly is what I figured. I didn't expect to find it, or hear it with the GPX 6000. I played around with a few settings and even had my buddies come over to check it out. They both scanned their stock coils (GPZ 7000 with 14x13") over it, both heard the target, but it was still faint (not a super obvious signal). This is one reason it's hard for me to put down the GPZ 7000, I have found many nuggets at depth, but deal with the heavy, bulky unit. I thought about going back and trying the 14" DD to see what it would have done, but for the most part, I never use the 14" DD, so it wouldn't have really proved anything to me, as I don't use it. It would have been interesting to see what the 17" coil would have done, but I didn't have it with me. I would think the 17" would have heard it. I'm swinging the GPZ 7000 with the NF 12" Round coil 90% of the time, the GPX 6000 about 10% of the time. There are some bedrock gullies I have revisited in years, so I'm looking forward to spending more time there with the 6000 and 11" Mono coil. I think I also might be able to pack the GPX 6000 into a few canyons as I wasn't easily able to do that with the GPZ 7000. Here are a few pictures below. I didn't have a tape measure, but Doc's pick is 22" handle length. I'm thinking between 18-20 inches was the true detection depth, but faint signal for sure.
  17. Who has run the sp01 on their 6 I had a crack , with my cogs as well , but found the cables a pain in the arse ... Also with the 6,s headphones on 70% volume on the phones and the detector backed off a tad I hear the feint murmurs ok I reckon anyway 😃 I
  18. Does the 6 eventually ground balance out a faint target that repeats from multiple directions in the beginning....like the GM1000 will do in auto? I run the 6 in manual mode 99% of the time..... This one area I've been working off and on lately has me frustrated because I've had quite a few faint repeatable targets that I end up walking away from because I loose the target and move on because time is too precious. My thought is that SOMETHING set the machine off....so something is there and I can't even seem to dig up even a hot rock or whatever set the machine off? It's driving me nuts trying to figure out WHAT is setting the machine off? I've dug many tinys with the 6 and currently at 98 nuggs with the 6 but this one area has me baffled with my walking away from several targets? Only this particular area has me scratching my head....I do ok anyplace else. Here's todays 5.5g nuggs despite the frustrating disappearing targets thingy.... Thanks for any input.....!!!!!
  19. Is there or has there been any comparison testing done in the field on depth with the 6000 vs the 7000 using the NF 12" Z-search coil. Thanks . . .
  20. There seems to be some kind of update to the 6000. I haven't had time to read through it all and doubt I will get the time because I'm swamped with non-prospecting stuff. But I noticed a new FCC filing on the 6000 related to something along the Bluetooth lines last week, I can only hope it helps the EMI issues but I have zero idea.
  21. I have no problem with coil twisting and I am using the 17” now. I think people who are having a problem are not tightening down hard enough. The shafts are carbon fiber you’re not going to break them tighten the clamp as tight as it can possibly get. If you’re just weakly tightening it down then you are going to have some twist. Quite honestly if you wanted to drill a hole and put a pin in yourself it would not be a big deal but I think it defeats the purpose when you want to tighten up the cord by giving it a twist before engaging the locks. So far I’m satisfied with it. Keep this in mind to if you think you can actually tighten it to the point where you’re going to break it it’s under warranty for three years! But if you drill the hole it’s probably not under warranty anymore.
  22. Hey all, still have a gpx 4000 I bought from AK M&D. Guess it's time for an upgrade. My Question is does the 4500 have enough improvements to justify the upgrade
  23. The GPX 6000 has 3 coils which are all large. Does anyone plan on making a smaller ellitical coil for getting into tight areas ?
  24. Early wet Weather in Northern Nevada, sure messed up a few of my hunts! But, this last Hunt was called Rain or Shine! Be there or miss out with the original hunting party. We had half the amount of coils on the ground during this hunt and managed to find a few sweet spots of dinks to add to our pokes. Rain on us with snow in the ground 200’ above us all 4-Days! 6000, Retune Button got a workout. I kept the 11” Mono on. Tried the DD for a few hours with no luck, don’t know if the ground and line I took was bad, but the guys behind me where finding nuggets…so back to the 11”. My truck is out in the drive way in the wet Weather still loaded up with me gear! Getting wet again to unload it, I can’t wait 🤨 Until the next Hunt! LuckyLundy
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